Delta Raises Maximum VDB Compensation to $9,950 in Vouchers
#166
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I've seen $1100 offered on a plane before during the computer outage last August and now that can be offered by a front line employee instead of just a manager. So, that's a real and positive change.
I can see times such as a busy summer weekend where they would need to offer a lot for a person to miss a few days of work so they can use the seat for someone else. So, this change will allow DL to do this instead of IDB.
Besides this beats a kick in the teeth any day.
I can see times such as a busy summer weekend where they would need to offer a lot for a person to miss a few days of work so they can use the seat for someone else. So, this change will allow DL to do this instead of IDB.
Besides this beats a kick in the teeth any day.
While not trying to go too off topic the only time I was given an offer while on the plane was a CO flight from EWR-LAX. A concierge walked on and offered me 20000 miles to take the next flight for some VIP passengers. I accepted. In the jetway I met the VIP' s the CEO of American and British Airways! They needed to be in L.A. that day and thanked me. I got a BF seat on the next flight, full J miles to my Onepass ( I was on an upgrade). I got an escort to the President's club, a couple of drink coupons and an escort back to the plane. The concierge thanked me and mentioned that he would have been allowed to give even more on the spot since " we really don' t like forcing anybody to give up their seat" . I really miss Continental, they were really good in the late 90's.
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I also miss CO (especially when they were partenrs with NW). I started flying them when they took over for PeoplExpress at EWR.
Although, when I took a $650 VDB at EWR, they told me that if you didn't use the whole amount, you lost it. I asked the GA if he could give me $250 + $200 + $200. He said no problem!
How do UA's & AA's work?
Although, when I took a $650 VDB at EWR, they told me that if you didn't use the whole amount, you lost it. I asked the GA if he could give me $250 + $200 + $200. He said no problem!
How do UA's & AA's work?
#168
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I doubt anyone booked in Y would ever get the maximum of $9,950... that would most likely only go to someone in J who gets downgraded (FAM, equipment change, broken seat on sold out flight, etc).
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If I am a DL lawyer, out of an abundance of caution, you have to ask the question, "what happens if... and what's the risk?" What happen if a customer gets the voucher and is travelling overseas and declares they have a financial instrument over $10K? What happens if that customer that gets the voucher then sells it to drug dealers who are attempting to launder money and in turn they flip it again (they frequently use gift cards to aid in the effort)? Although the gov can argue that DL was trying to skirt rules and should have know a large voucher like this could be used for illicit purposes, by keeping it just under $10K, it is one more added protection that at least minimizes risk.
2) it's not illegal to carry $10k out of the country; you only need to declare it. Delta could give you a check for $1 million for voluntarily giving up your seat and as long as you declare it to customs, no prob
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New regulations or old, I have witnessed twice numbers going as high as $3500+++ (next flight, hotel, etc) CASH or so in limited situations in the past. Both for Business Class and both being extreme oversells just prior to big events - the kind where people were paying over $10k for an Transoceanic Business Class travel - and they had 4-8 more passengers then they had seats and everyone had relatively high status.
The question is whether the airline has a responsible adult around (read supervisor) to make the decision, UA could have gone much higher in their offer, but it would seem that the GA made mistake after mistake which compounded......
The question is whether the airline has a responsible adult around (read supervisor) to make the decision, UA could have gone much higher in their offer, but it would seem that the GA made mistake after mistake which compounded......
#171
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I would like to know what type of yoga people here do to be able to bend over far enough to spin this as a negative move by DL? I'm looking to improve my flexibility and whatever regiment some here are on must be amazing.
Is it a bold PR move...yes. But that does not make it a bad idea.
DL is trusting and empowering their front line employees to essentially eliminate one of the most hated things in the industry.
Will anyone ever get the full amount...I'm sure SOMEONE will, but as has been said many times, someone will take far less than that...but still more that the max offer before.
I think people are missing the TRUE motivation...NPS.
DL just empowered their frontline employees to turn this:
"DL JUST TOOK ME OFF A FLIGHT!!! NOW I'M MISSING XYZ EVENT! THEY ARE ALL CROOKS AND LIARS!!! #FDELTA "
Into this:
"Just scored 3,200 to take a later flight. I'll be flying in style to FCO this summer!"
Or something approximating those remarks that have the potential to go viral on social media. The second one probably won't go viral, but the first one sure can if it's some IG celebrity
Is it a bold PR move...yes. But that does not make it a bad idea.
DL is trusting and empowering their front line employees to essentially eliminate one of the most hated things in the industry.
Will anyone ever get the full amount...I'm sure SOMEONE will, but as has been said many times, someone will take far less than that...but still more that the max offer before.
I think people are missing the TRUE motivation...NPS.
DL just empowered their frontline employees to turn this:
"DL JUST TOOK ME OFF A FLIGHT!!! NOW I'M MISSING XYZ EVENT! THEY ARE ALL CROOKS AND LIARS!!! #FDELTA "
Into this:
"Just scored 3,200 to take a later flight. I'll be flying in style to FCO this summer!"
Or something approximating those remarks that have the potential to go viral on social media. The second one probably won't go viral, but the first one sure can if it's some IG celebrity
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It mostly seems to based around a massive misunderstanding of the frequency with which high amounts will be paid out. Some might just be trolls too.
Is it a bold PR move...yes. But that does not make it a bad idea.
DL is trusting and empowering their front line employees to essentially eliminate one of the most hated things in the industry.
Will anyone ever get the full amount...I'm sure SOMEONE will, but as has been said many times, someone will take far less than that...but still more that the max offer before.
I think people are missing the TRUE motivation...NPS.
DL just empowered their frontline employees to turn this:
"DL JUST TOOK ME OFF A FLIGHT!!! NOW I'M MISSING XYZ EVENT! THEY ARE ALL CROOKS AND LIARS!!! #FDELTA "
Into this:
"Just scored 3,200 to take a later flight. I'll be flying in style to FCO this summer!"
Or something approximating those remarks that have the potential to go viral on social media. The second one probably won't go viral, but the first one sure can if it's some IG celebrity
DL is trusting and empowering their front line employees to essentially eliminate one of the most hated things in the industry.
Will anyone ever get the full amount...I'm sure SOMEONE will, but as has been said many times, someone will take far less than that...but still more that the max offer before.
I think people are missing the TRUE motivation...NPS.
DL just empowered their frontline employees to turn this:
"DL JUST TOOK ME OFF A FLIGHT!!! NOW I'M MISSING XYZ EVENT! THEY ARE ALL CROOKS AND LIARS!!! #FDELTA "
Into this:
"Just scored 3,200 to take a later flight. I'll be flying in style to FCO this summer!"
Or something approximating those remarks that have the potential to go viral on social media. The second one probably won't go viral, but the first one sure can if it's some IG celebrity
#176
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No. It's a PR stunt to piggy back off of UA's misfortune.
I think you'll likely see higher offers on VDBs across the board because of the public's taking a special interest in the UA3411 incident. Paying this much could come in handy in the instance of an oversold business cabin leaving from Europe...
I think you'll likely see higher offers on VDBs across the board because of the public's taking a special interest in the UA3411 incident. Paying this much could come in handy in the instance of an oversold business cabin leaving from Europe...
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Delta is Tricking the Pax..
No. It's a PR stunt to piggy back off of UA's misfortune.
I think you'll likely see higher offers on VDBs across the board because of the public's taking a special interest in the UA3411 incident. Paying this much could come in handy in the instance of an oversold business cabin leaving from Europe...
I think you'll likely see higher offers on VDBs across the board because of the public's taking a special interest in the UA3411 incident. Paying this much could come in handy in the instance of an oversold business cabin leaving from Europe...
#178
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I was on a flight that went to $1,800 before they got a volunteer to fly the next day instead. I was on my way to my company's annual meeting. There were many of us on the flight: ATL-SAT. None of us could take the offer with all the others on the plane, but it was killing me and the coworker next to me. A woman sitting one row ahead of me across the aisle finally couldn't resist and got up when the offer reached $1,800.
#179
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I got $2k once but that involved getting bumped off back to back flights on the same day. $800 and then $1200. Was offered another $800 to get off the first flight the next morning but with a 10am meeting I couldnt make it work.
#180
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I don't believe DL put out a press release about this, so while some may say they new the info would leak out, it's not like they've put on a full court marketing blitz.
And I don't believe the intentions were to start paying everyone $9950. It's more a matter of raising the ceiling which was ~$1350 about the same as an IDB...obviously some situations went higher but for the most part it seems $1350 was about it. Now they are free to negotiate higher amounts if need be.
You're mad at DL for people accepting $2K and not just giving them another ~$8K?
I don't see the downside to consumers here...this just reinforces the idea that some here see any change DL makes as a negative change.
And I don't believe the intentions were to start paying everyone $9950. It's more a matter of raising the ceiling which was ~$1350 about the same as an IDB...obviously some situations went higher but for the most part it seems $1350 was about it. Now they are free to negotiate higher amounts if need be.
You're mad at DL for people accepting $2K and not just giving them another ~$8K?
I don't see the downside to consumers here...this just reinforces the idea that some here see any change DL makes as a negative change.