Aug 9, 2016, 1:04 pm
Last edit by: TheLifeOfA_NKCM
As most of us ...well, all of us, know, there was a power failure at ground ops in ATL on Monday (2016-08-08) at 2:39AM which lead to mass-cancellations and delays and rebookings spanning as far as next Sunday (2016-08-21) as of Aug 9. Passengers didn't hesitate to display their dissapointment, Twitter, ACS, and DL phone lines were ambushed with customers. In an effort to keep our fellow flyers informed on the incoming changes and information, this Wiki was formed.
You may all feel free to edit it as your leisure as we continue to watch this develop..
If you are currently at an airport right now, your information on the ongoing events and current situation there is equally as valuable. Thanks for your input.
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Airport & Support Situation..
NRT: Foam or Blowup Pad, Crackers, and water given out to customers for sleeping prior to hotel voucher last night
MSP: "Security Lines best since reconfiguration"
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Note:
Some passengers are reporting long waiting queues on DL phone lines. If possible avoid contacting DL CSR by phone (DM and medallion lines are also expected to have a notably longer wait as well) and instead redirect att'n to Twitter which has been said to be notably quicker than other means of assistance, including Need Help Centers and Gate Agents. Fly Delta and Delta.com should also be permitting rebooking on to other flights at this time. If you are unable to take advantage of any of these methods, express add'l patience
Delta Related Updates:
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August 11th, 2016 // 11:00AM ET - Flights OPs Return to Normal
Flight operations have returned to normal following Mondays outage, airline officials said at noon today. Delta started the day with roughly 25 mainline flights canceledsome due to bad weather in the Midwestand no additional cancellations are anticipated.
The airline is back on its feet, moving past this weeks disruption and operating normally, said Dave Holtz, S.V.P. - Operations and Customer Center. Running a reliable operation is something we pride ourselves on and frankly, that didnt happen this week. But our teams have worked tirelessly to bring back the dependable airline our customers have known us to be and have come to expect from us.
SLC.jpgWith the impact of the power loss is in the rearview mirror, the airline is carefully monitoring the development of a weather system that may hit the eastern third of the U.S. later today, with the possibility of air traffic control-related delays possible in the Northeast. No additional cancellations as a result of weather are expected, however.
The airline plans to fly more than 610,000 people today. By noon Thursday, nearly 2,200 flights had departed with more than 85 percent departing within 15 minutes of the scheduled departure time.
Even so, customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Delta's travel waiver has been extended through Thursday.
Monday morning an uninterrupted power source switch experienced a small fire which resulted in a massive failure at Deltas Technology Command Center. This caused the power control module to malfunction, sending a surge to a transformer outside of Delta, resulting in the loss of power. The power was stabilized and power was restored quickly. But when this happened, critical systems and network equipment didnt switch over to backups. Around 300 of about 7,000 data center components were discovered to not have been configured appropriately to avail back-up power. In addition to restoring Deltas systems to normal operations, Delta teams this week have been working to ensure reliable redundancies of electrical power as well as network connectivity and applications are in place.
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August 10th, 2016
Travel waiver impacted dates now extended to include August 11th
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...em-outage.html
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4:30PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has canceled 317 flights today, none in the last hour. Of 3,100 flights that have departed during the day, about 2/3 left within 30 minutes of their scheduled departure time.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended. The airline has extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by lengthy delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
Delta CEO Bastian: 'This isn't who we are'
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2:30PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has canceled 311 flights today. About 2,540 flights have departed, 70 percent of those within 30 minutes of the scheduled departure time. Delta operates nearly 6,000 flights a day this time of year.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended. The airline has extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by lengthy delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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12:30 PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has added a few more cancellations, bringing the number today to 278. About 1,950 flights have departed, 75 percent of those within 30 minutes of scheduled departure time. Delta operates nearly 6,000 flights a day this time of year.
Delta also extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or lengthy cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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11:00AM EDT // August 10th, 2016 - Delta officials anticipate returning to a normal operation by afternoon Wednesday following an outage Monday that disrupted the flight schedule, though scattered thunderstorms expected in the eastern U.S. may slow the recovery.
By late morning, Delta had canceled 255 flights while 1,500 flights departed. About 80 percent of those flights departed within 30 minutes of their scheduled time.
Technology systems that allow airport customer service agents to process check-ins, conduct boarding and dispatch aircraft are functioning normally with the bulk of delays and cancellations coming as a result of flight crews displaced or running up against their maximum allowed duty period following the outage.
Were in the final hours of bouncing back from the disruption, said Bill Lentsch, Deltas Senior Vice President Airport Customer Service and Airline Operations. Delta employees have been working around the clock and are committed to bringing the airline back to full strength. We know this has been a rough couple of days for our customers and apologize to those who have experienced our less-than-stellar operation.
Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest. Delta sent reservations personnel from the corporate headquarters in Atlanta to help customer service agents process customers at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. A cadre of additional employees were also positioned throughout the Atlanta airport to help customers get to their flights.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended and the airline continued to provide hotel vouchers to several thousand customers, including more than 2,300 Tuesday night in Atlanta. Delta extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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7:00AM ET // August, 10th, 2016 - Delta officials anticipate returning to a normal operation by mid-to-late afternoon Wednesday following an outage Monday that disrupted the airlines flight schedule, though a chance of scattered thunderstorms expected in the eastern U.S. may have the potential to slow the recovery.
Teams across the airline continued work during the overnight hours to bring an end to the impact of Mondays outage that disrupted operations. Delta will start the Wednesday operation with a little over 150 system-wide cancellations after roughly 800 flights were canceled Tuesday.
Technology systems that allow airport customer service agents to process check-ins, conduct boarding and dispatch aircraft are functioning normally with the bulk of delays and cancellations coming as a result of flight crews displaced or running up against their maximum allowed duty period following the outage.
Were in the final hours of bouncing back from the disruption, said Bill Lentsch, Deltas Senior Vice President Airport Customer Service and Airline Operations. Delta employees have been working around the clock and are committed to bringing the airline back to full strength. We know this has been a rough couple of days for our customers and apologize to those who have experienced our less-than-stellar operation.
Delta CEO Bastian: 'This isn't who we are'
Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest. Delta sent reservations personnel from the corporate headquarters in Atlanta to help customer service agents process customers at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. A cadre of additional employees were also positioned throughout the Atlanta Airport to help customers get to their flights.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended and the airline continued to provide hotel vouchers to several thousand customers, including more than 2,300 Tuesday night in Atlanta. Through noon ET, Delta will extend its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations to cover Tuesday. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta agents.
Unaccompanied minors will again be allowed to travel on Delta Wednesday following a temporary stay during the height of the disruption.
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August 9th, 2016 // 6:00 PM EST - Rebooking, Refunds, and Compensation: What Customers Need to Know:
Delta people worldwide are working around the clock to take care of customers affected by the disruption of airline operations. Below are updates to assist customers with questions regarding rebooking a flight, the current travel waiver and compensation Delta is offering affected customers:
Q: What does Delta's travel waiver offer customers?
If a customer's flight is cancelled or significantly delayed, he or she entitled to a refund. Even if the flight is not canceled, a one-time change to the ticket may be made without a fee. See full details here.
Q. Has Delta's travel waiver been extended?
Yes, to offer additional flexibility to customers who wish to make changes to their travel plans, Delta's travel waiver has been extended. For the latest information, see full details here.
Q. Is Delta offering travel vouchers to impacted customers?
Yes. Delta will provide $200 in travel vouchers to all customers who experienced a delay of greater than three hours or a cancelled flight as a result of the impact to operations systemwide. The vouchers are available for travel on all Delta and Delta Connection-operated flights.
Customers affected by the outage and who have provided their email address will be contacted via email and will receive their voucher in seven to 10 business days. Customers who have not been contacted can complete a Customer Care form on www.delta.com/wecare to receive their voucher. All travel must be booked by one year from the date the voucher was issued.
Q. Do the travel vouchers also apply to customers who are entitled to a refund?
Yes. Delta will provide $200 in travel vouchers to all customers who experienced a delay of greater than three hours or a cancelled flight as a result of the impact to operations systemwide.
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August 9th, 2016 - Delta CEO Ed Bastian Releases Another Statement
Today Ed released another statement regarding the ongoing system reset and outage. Claiming "This isn't who we are". It can be found here.
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Nonrev Travel Discouraged; Buddy Passes embargoed
Delta employees and family with nonrev flight privileges are discouraged at this time from making any personal travel until further notice. Additionally, during this time travelling via the use of a buddy pass will be embargoed. An end date to this travel suspension has not been decided upon and will be released in future updates.
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Travel Waiver in effect:
All Delta flights
August 8-10, 2016
Ticket must be Reissued On or Before, and Rebooked Travel must begin no later than:
August 21, 2016
Note: This also has been extended to include hotel rooms and other accommodations for those customers who may need to take an add'l night stay due to a flight cancellation.
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August 9th, 2016 // 11:00 PM EST -
Delta canceled about 775 flights Tuesday as the airline worked to establish normal operations after Mondays outage that disrupted the flight schedule. The outlook for Wednesdays operation is positive, Delta officials said, with about 90 cancellations expected at the beginning of the day leading to normal operations later.
Delta continues to recover from events earlier this week and expect to be back to normal operations by mid-day Wed, with some cancellations in the morning. -summarized; news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 2:00 PM EST - Cause of Outage Identified:
"a critical power control module at our Technology Command Center malfunctioned, causing a surge to the transformer and a loss of power. The universal power was stabilized and power was restored quickly. But when this happened, critical systems and network equipment didn't switch over to backups. Other systems did. And now we're seeing instability in these systems."
Power was restored quickly however, due to some critical systems and network equipment didn't switch over to the backups leading to the outage; DL still in recovery. ACS systems are still catching up and have been reported to be running slow -summarized; news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 12:30 PM EST - Delta has canceled about 530 flights today while more than 1,600 have departed as the airline works diligently to normalize operations after Monday's outage that disrupted the flight schedule. Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended to customers traveling on Aug. 9. Also, unaccompanied minors that have not yet begun travel will not be accepted until Wednesday. Those customers will be able to book without fee at a later date.
Delta offered compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations. -news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 8:30 AM EST - What Customers Need to Know for Tuesday:
Delta is cancelling more than 300 flights Tuesday morning as it works to reset the operation and get crews, aircraft and other operational elements in place to take care of customers. The airline experienced a loss of power Monday morning that impacted operations systemwide.
Here are some things to know today:
1. Customers traveling Tuesday should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
2. Delays continue. Customers heading to the airport should expect delays and cancellations. While inquiries are high and wait times are long, our customer service agents are doing everything they can to assist.
3. Delta's travel waiver has been extended to customers traveling on Tuesday.
4. Delta extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations to cover today.
5. Unaccompanied minors that have not yet begun travel will not be accepted until Wednesday. Those customers will be able to book without fee at a later date.-news.delta.com
You may all feel free to edit it as your leisure as we continue to watch this develop..
If you are currently at an airport right now, your information on the ongoing events and current situation there is equally as valuable. Thanks for your input.
If you have part of an article in your post, please cite it with a URL to it's
origin.
Airport & Support Situation..
NRT: Foam or Blowup Pad, Crackers, and water given out to customers for sleeping prior to hotel voucher last night
MSP: "Security Lines best since reconfiguration"
---
Note:
Some passengers are reporting long waiting queues on DL phone lines. If possible avoid contacting DL CSR by phone (DM and medallion lines are also expected to have a notably longer wait as well) and instead redirect att'n to Twitter which has been said to be notably quicker than other means of assistance, including Need Help Centers and Gate Agents. Fly Delta and Delta.com should also be permitting rebooking on to other flights at this time. If you are unable to take advantage of any of these methods, express add'l patience
Delta Related Updates:
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August 11th, 2016 // 11:00AM ET - Flights OPs Return to Normal
Flight operations have returned to normal following Mondays outage, airline officials said at noon today. Delta started the day with roughly 25 mainline flights canceledsome due to bad weather in the Midwestand no additional cancellations are anticipated.
The airline is back on its feet, moving past this weeks disruption and operating normally, said Dave Holtz, S.V.P. - Operations and Customer Center. Running a reliable operation is something we pride ourselves on and frankly, that didnt happen this week. But our teams have worked tirelessly to bring back the dependable airline our customers have known us to be and have come to expect from us.
SLC.jpgWith the impact of the power loss is in the rearview mirror, the airline is carefully monitoring the development of a weather system that may hit the eastern third of the U.S. later today, with the possibility of air traffic control-related delays possible in the Northeast. No additional cancellations as a result of weather are expected, however.
The airline plans to fly more than 610,000 people today. By noon Thursday, nearly 2,200 flights had departed with more than 85 percent departing within 15 minutes of the scheduled departure time.
Even so, customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Delta's travel waiver has been extended through Thursday.
Monday morning an uninterrupted power source switch experienced a small fire which resulted in a massive failure at Deltas Technology Command Center. This caused the power control module to malfunction, sending a surge to a transformer outside of Delta, resulting in the loss of power. The power was stabilized and power was restored quickly. But when this happened, critical systems and network equipment didnt switch over to backups. Around 300 of about 7,000 data center components were discovered to not have been configured appropriately to avail back-up power. In addition to restoring Deltas systems to normal operations, Delta teams this week have been working to ensure reliable redundancies of electrical power as well as network connectivity and applications are in place.
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August 10th, 2016
Travel waiver impacted dates now extended to include August 11th
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...em-outage.html
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4:30PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has canceled 317 flights today, none in the last hour. Of 3,100 flights that have departed during the day, about 2/3 left within 30 minutes of their scheduled departure time.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended. The airline has extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by lengthy delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
Delta CEO Bastian: 'This isn't who we are'
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2:30PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has canceled 311 flights today. About 2,540 flights have departed, 70 percent of those within 30 minutes of the scheduled departure time. Delta operates nearly 6,000 flights a day this time of year.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended. The airline has extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by lengthy delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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12:30 PM ET // August 10th, 2016 - Delta has added a few more cancellations, bringing the number today to 278. About 1,950 flights have departed, 75 percent of those within 30 minutes of scheduled departure time. Delta operates nearly 6,000 flights a day this time of year.
Delta also extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or lengthy cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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11:00AM EDT // August 10th, 2016 - Delta officials anticipate returning to a normal operation by afternoon Wednesday following an outage Monday that disrupted the flight schedule, though scattered thunderstorms expected in the eastern U.S. may slow the recovery.
By late morning, Delta had canceled 255 flights while 1,500 flights departed. About 80 percent of those flights departed within 30 minutes of their scheduled time.
Technology systems that allow airport customer service agents to process check-ins, conduct boarding and dispatch aircraft are functioning normally with the bulk of delays and cancellations coming as a result of flight crews displaced or running up against their maximum allowed duty period following the outage.
Were in the final hours of bouncing back from the disruption, said Bill Lentsch, Deltas Senior Vice President Airport Customer Service and Airline Operations. Delta employees have been working around the clock and are committed to bringing the airline back to full strength. We know this has been a rough couple of days for our customers and apologize to those who have experienced our less-than-stellar operation.
Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest. Delta sent reservations personnel from the corporate headquarters in Atlanta to help customer service agents process customers at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. A cadre of additional employees were also positioned throughout the Atlanta airport to help customers get to their flights.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended and the airline continued to provide hotel vouchers to several thousand customers, including more than 2,300 Tuesday night in Atlanta. Delta extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta.
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7:00AM ET // August, 10th, 2016 - Delta officials anticipate returning to a normal operation by mid-to-late afternoon Wednesday following an outage Monday that disrupted the airlines flight schedule, though a chance of scattered thunderstorms expected in the eastern U.S. may have the potential to slow the recovery.
Teams across the airline continued work during the overnight hours to bring an end to the impact of Mondays outage that disrupted operations. Delta will start the Wednesday operation with a little over 150 system-wide cancellations after roughly 800 flights were canceled Tuesday.
Technology systems that allow airport customer service agents to process check-ins, conduct boarding and dispatch aircraft are functioning normally with the bulk of delays and cancellations coming as a result of flight crews displaced or running up against their maximum allowed duty period following the outage.
Were in the final hours of bouncing back from the disruption, said Bill Lentsch, Deltas Senior Vice President Airport Customer Service and Airline Operations. Delta employees have been working around the clock and are committed to bringing the airline back to full strength. We know this has been a rough couple of days for our customers and apologize to those who have experienced our less-than-stellar operation.
Delta CEO Bastian: 'This isn't who we are'
Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest. Delta sent reservations personnel from the corporate headquarters in Atlanta to help customer service agents process customers at Hartsfield-Jackson Atlanta International Airport. A cadre of additional employees were also positioned throughout the Atlanta Airport to help customers get to their flights.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended and the airline continued to provide hotel vouchers to several thousand customers, including more than 2,300 Tuesday night in Atlanta. Through noon ET, Delta will extend its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations to cover Tuesday. Many customers have already been contacted by Delta agents.
Unaccompanied minors will again be allowed to travel on Delta Wednesday following a temporary stay during the height of the disruption.
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August 9th, 2016 // 6:00 PM EST - Rebooking, Refunds, and Compensation: What Customers Need to Know:
Delta people worldwide are working around the clock to take care of customers affected by the disruption of airline operations. Below are updates to assist customers with questions regarding rebooking a flight, the current travel waiver and compensation Delta is offering affected customers:
Q: What does Delta's travel waiver offer customers?
If a customer's flight is cancelled or significantly delayed, he or she entitled to a refund. Even if the flight is not canceled, a one-time change to the ticket may be made without a fee. See full details here.
Q. Has Delta's travel waiver been extended?
Yes, to offer additional flexibility to customers who wish to make changes to their travel plans, Delta's travel waiver has been extended. For the latest information, see full details here.
Q. Is Delta offering travel vouchers to impacted customers?
Yes. Delta will provide $200 in travel vouchers to all customers who experienced a delay of greater than three hours or a cancelled flight as a result of the impact to operations systemwide. The vouchers are available for travel on all Delta and Delta Connection-operated flights.
Customers affected by the outage and who have provided their email address will be contacted via email and will receive their voucher in seven to 10 business days. Customers who have not been contacted can complete a Customer Care form on www.delta.com/wecare to receive their voucher. All travel must be booked by one year from the date the voucher was issued.
Q. Do the travel vouchers also apply to customers who are entitled to a refund?
Yes. Delta will provide $200 in travel vouchers to all customers who experienced a delay of greater than three hours or a cancelled flight as a result of the impact to operations systemwide.
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August 9th, 2016 - Delta CEO Ed Bastian Releases Another Statement
Today Ed released another statement regarding the ongoing system reset and outage. Claiming "This isn't who we are". It can be found here.
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Nonrev Travel Discouraged; Buddy Passes embargoed
Delta employees and family with nonrev flight privileges are discouraged at this time from making any personal travel until further notice. Additionally, during this time travelling via the use of a buddy pass will be embargoed. An end date to this travel suspension has not been decided upon and will be released in future updates.
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Travel Waiver in effect:
All Delta flights
August 8-10, 2016
Ticket must be Reissued On or Before, and Rebooked Travel must begin no later than:
August 21, 2016
Note: This also has been extended to include hotel rooms and other accommodations for those customers who may need to take an add'l night stay due to a flight cancellation.
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August 9th, 2016 // 11:00 PM EST -
Delta canceled about 775 flights Tuesday as the airline worked to establish normal operations after Mondays outage that disrupted the flight schedule. The outlook for Wednesdays operation is positive, Delta officials said, with about 90 cancellations expected at the beginning of the day leading to normal operations later.
Delta continues to recover from events earlier this week and expect to be back to normal operations by mid-day Wed, with some cancellations in the morning. -summarized; news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 2:00 PM EST - Cause of Outage Identified:
"a critical power control module at our Technology Command Center malfunctioned, causing a surge to the transformer and a loss of power. The universal power was stabilized and power was restored quickly. But when this happened, critical systems and network equipment didn't switch over to backups. Other systems did. And now we're seeing instability in these systems."
Power was restored quickly however, due to some critical systems and network equipment didn't switch over to the backups leading to the outage; DL still in recovery. ACS systems are still catching up and have been reported to be running slow -summarized; news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 12:30 PM EST - Delta has canceled about 530 flights today while more than 1,600 have departed as the airline works diligently to normalize operations after Monday's outage that disrupted the flight schedule. Leaders and employees continue to focus on promptly moving departures at the airline's Atlanta hub, the world's busiest.
Customers traveling today should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
Delta's travel waiver has been extended to customers traveling on Aug. 9. Also, unaccompanied minors that have not yet begun travel will not be accepted until Wednesday. Those customers will be able to book without fee at a later date.
Delta offered compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations. -news.delta.com
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August 9th, 2016 // 8:30 AM EST - What Customers Need to Know for Tuesday:
Delta is cancelling more than 300 flights Tuesday morning as it works to reset the operation and get crews, aircraft and other operational elements in place to take care of customers. The airline experienced a loss of power Monday morning that impacted operations systemwide.
Here are some things to know today:
1. Customers traveling Tuesday should check the status of their flight at delta.com or the Fly Delta App. Customers can rebook their flight via the website.
2. Delays continue. Customers heading to the airport should expect delays and cancellations. While inquiries are high and wait times are long, our customer service agents are doing everything they can to assist.
3. Delta's travel waiver has been extended to customers traveling on Tuesday.
4. Delta extended its offer of compensation to customers significantly affected by delays or cancellations to cover today.
5. Unaccompanied minors that have not yet begun travel will not be accepted until Wednesday. Those customers will be able to book without fee at a later date.-news.delta.com
Delta computers down
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:13 pm
#346
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Disgusting! They should stop being skimpy and stingy for once and spend the money to get a hotel room in Tokyo for each passenger
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:14 pm
#347
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DL1877 can anyone help me figure out where this plane is originating from (what the inbound flight is). Looked up the Tail on FlightStats and it doesn't correolate accurately. Have a flight on SW as backup out of Midway at 830pm but not sure if I should trust this Delta flight saying 741p. Any help?
Unless DL finds a substitution, you're probably looking @ at least 1.5-3 hours more of a delay.
Others can pipe in with their opinions, but that's my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:18 pm
#348
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DL1877 can anyone help me figure out where this plane is originating from (what the inbound flight is). Looked up the Tail on FlightStats and it doesn't correolate accurately. Have a flight on SW as backup out of Midway at 830pm but not sure if I should trust this Delta flight saying 741p. Any help?
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:21 pm
#349
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DL1877 can anyone help me figure out where this plane is originating from (what the inbound flight is). Looked up the Tail on FlightStats and it doesn't correolate accurately. Have a flight on SW as backup out of Midway at 830pm but not sure if I should trust this Delta flight saying 741p. Any help?
Looks like the inbound is shown as arriving at 7:39pm, according to the app. That pretty much guarantees a delay in addition to the already-delayed time of 7:41pm.
Unless DL finds a substitution, you're probably looking @ at least 1.5-3 hours more of a delay.
Others can pipe in with their opinions, but that's my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
Unless DL finds a substitution, you're probably looking @ at least 1.5-3 hours more of a delay.
Others can pipe in with their opinions, but that's my opinion, so take it for what it's worth.
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Aug 8, 2016 | 2:26 pm
#350
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What was that you said Ed?
In May Ed Bastian, Delta's CEO, scolded customers by saying they should choose Delta based on the experience, not the price. In other words, Delta provides better customer service, better equipment, better on-time performance--better everything, so you should be willing to pay more.
http://www.superiorag.com/news/story.php?id=2347512
So Ed, tens of thousands of your customers are stuck where they don't want to be and missing business meetings and calls on clients today, of all days a Monday morning. Nearly two thousand flights affected. All because Delta doesn't have a contingency plan for a "power outage" that crashes its technology platform. How do you think they'd react if you reminded them that they should shut up and pay more?
Five years Platinum--Upgraded 4 times in 2015--won't even get to Silver in 2016.
http://www.superiorag.com/news/story.php?id=2347512
So Ed, tens of thousands of your customers are stuck where they don't want to be and missing business meetings and calls on clients today, of all days a Monday morning. Nearly two thousand flights affected. All because Delta doesn't have a contingency plan for a "power outage" that crashes its technology platform. How do you think they'd react if you reminded them that they should shut up and pay more?
Five years Platinum--Upgraded 4 times in 2015--won't even get to Silver in 2016.
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:29 pm
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Aug 8, 2016 | 2:29 pm
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I'm flying tomorrow morning, pray for me.
David
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:30 pm
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Due to fly IND-EBB today. Got to the airport and ended up getting rebooked--a 24hr delay. Lots of unhappy people in the DL lounge and one of the agents here told me its their worst day ever since 9/11 in terms of what they've had to do. That said, kudos to many who are working well overtime trying to get people situated.
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:33 pm
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In May Ed Bastian, Delta's CEO, scolded customers by saying they should choose Delta based on the experience, not the price. In other words, Delta provides better customer service, better equipment, better on-time performance--better everything, so you should be willing to pay more.
http://www.superiorag.com/news/story.php?id=2347512
So Ed, tens of thousands of your customers are stuck where they don't want to be and missing business meetings and calls on clients today, of all days a Monday morning. Nearly two thousand flights affected. All because Delta doesn't have a contingency plan for a "power outage" that crashes its technology platform. How do you think they'd react if you reminded them that they should shut up and pay more?
Five years Platinum--Upgraded 4 times in 2015--won't even get to Silver in 2016.
http://www.superiorag.com/news/story.php?id=2347512
So Ed, tens of thousands of your customers are stuck where they don't want to be and missing business meetings and calls on clients today, of all days a Monday morning. Nearly two thousand flights affected. All because Delta doesn't have a contingency plan for a "power outage" that crashes its technology platform. How do you think they'd react if you reminded them that they should shut up and pay more?
Five years Platinum--Upgraded 4 times in 2015--won't even get to Silver in 2016.
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:37 pm
#356
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I was waiting for that reference.
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:40 pm
#357
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No room in any hotel then?
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:47 pm
#358
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Not that we could find. It seems like when NRT shuts down the ground transportation does as well. We even had flight crew stuck for a long time. The floor was not fun. And we had paid D1 seats. Not really blaming the NRT Delta staff though .... It was absolutely crazy. Go back thru immigration which was about to close, get bags back, customs, then just wait. Eventually pulled out the mats on the first floor.
I will say that the reservation line did a superb job getting us rebooked. We'll see if we can get out at 3 PM to MSP
I will say that the reservation line did a superb job getting us rebooked. We'll see if we can get out at 3 PM to MSP
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:48 pm
#359
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Delta hasn't sent any mass emails telling customers what has hit and what kind of situation they should expect if booked on (or planning to try to get booked on) Delta later this week?
Aug 8, 2016 | 2:51 pm
#360
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1MMer and former plat who was run off by changes admits to a bit of schadenfreude 8/8
OK, so I'm heading on the rental car shuttle at RDU to fly back to ATL on FRONTIER and a guy tells the driver his airline is Delta and a woman says, "Ooooh, didn't you hear? They had a massive outage and their flights are delayed all over the place."
The guy was kinda surprised he hadn't been called or anything, but he gets on his smartphone and finds his flight with a posted delay of just an hour or so, which he hope holds.
I get to the terminal and see the line at the ticket counter, which looks about 200 deep and like a disastrous TSA line. The Skiority one is maybe 30 deep. But this is only RDU, a relatively minor airport for them in the overall scheme of things. I look at the big board, though, and it's full of DL delays and a cancellation or two.
As "luck" would have it, one of the DL gates was right next to my Frontier gate. Looked like a line of about 50 or so there. The gate agent on the loudspeaker was trying to hand out red cards and get people to rebook for the next day or request a refund, but people were still holding out hope it wouldn't be that long. They were only encouraging those with ATL as a final destination to play the waiting game to try to get on something that day, as it could be that the connection was stuck and they'd just have to wait in ATL rather than RDU in that case.
The gate agent apologized, said she knew it was stressful, said the problem was systemwide, and that she'd been at the airport since 3:30 a.m. (It was around 12:30 p.m. by then).
It looked like a worse problem than might be indicated by that guy's hour delay, so I decided that that was just the opening bid and they were doing that time-honored airline tradition of dribbling out the bad news in little bites.
My plane with Frontier ($38 RT from ATL!) was on time. I got on as zone 1 (as a relatively new elite) for my window seat in one of the "stretch" seats up front with the free carry-on bag...more or less the standard treatment for legacies. The middle seat was unoccupied. The plane as a whole was at maybe 85%. Delta mustn't have an interline agreement, because many of their distressed pax were headed to ATL and they could have easily filled that plane. I dunno what Frontier wanted on the walk-up, but there may have been one or two that just paid it out-of-pocket.
As a former plat who's taken only one paid DL flight since they shifted to the revenue model, I have to admit to a small, small, tiny bit of schadenfreude over the whole thing, not for the poor pax (who at least in RDU were taking it well) but for the airline. Also realizing that Frontier is probably 5 times as hackable and can't get its website to function as intended in some browsers under NORMAL circumstances. And would likely be terrible in irregular operations, though probably not *quite* as bad as Spirit (F9 might get you a can of Sprite while you sleep on the floor).
Oh, and F9 still has the distance-based miles. ^ Got 1,000 where the same ticket on DL would have earned 190 (Oh, wait, more like 45 if you don't earn miles on the part paid for taxes). A thousand vs. 45...no wonder the rental cars have been earning the most legacy miles for me lately.
BTW, this should be a wake-up call in that a failure like this at any of the 3 legacies (power outage, Russian hackers, disgruntled employee sabotage or any other possibility) can't or won't be absorbed by the rest of the system. It reminds me of the UPS strike of years ago where the USPS and FedEx didn't have capacity to pick up the slack.
Thanks to these MERGERS and having just three major airlines, the pax get treated worse, the FF programs have been greatly devalued for the vast majority of pax, and if any one goes down then the rest of the system might not be able to help out that much - or at least there's not a good plan.
I do hope that guy doesn't have to stay in the airport overnight. Wasn't his fault.
The guy was kinda surprised he hadn't been called or anything, but he gets on his smartphone and finds his flight with a posted delay of just an hour or so, which he hope holds.
I get to the terminal and see the line at the ticket counter, which looks about 200 deep and like a disastrous TSA line. The Skiority one is maybe 30 deep. But this is only RDU, a relatively minor airport for them in the overall scheme of things. I look at the big board, though, and it's full of DL delays and a cancellation or two.
As "luck" would have it, one of the DL gates was right next to my Frontier gate. Looked like a line of about 50 or so there. The gate agent on the loudspeaker was trying to hand out red cards and get people to rebook for the next day or request a refund, but people were still holding out hope it wouldn't be that long. They were only encouraging those with ATL as a final destination to play the waiting game to try to get on something that day, as it could be that the connection was stuck and they'd just have to wait in ATL rather than RDU in that case.
The gate agent apologized, said she knew it was stressful, said the problem was systemwide, and that she'd been at the airport since 3:30 a.m. (It was around 12:30 p.m. by then).
It looked like a worse problem than might be indicated by that guy's hour delay, so I decided that that was just the opening bid and they were doing that time-honored airline tradition of dribbling out the bad news in little bites.
My plane with Frontier ($38 RT from ATL!) was on time. I got on as zone 1 (as a relatively new elite) for my window seat in one of the "stretch" seats up front with the free carry-on bag...more or less the standard treatment for legacies. The middle seat was unoccupied. The plane as a whole was at maybe 85%. Delta mustn't have an interline agreement, because many of their distressed pax were headed to ATL and they could have easily filled that plane. I dunno what Frontier wanted on the walk-up, but there may have been one or two that just paid it out-of-pocket.
As a former plat who's taken only one paid DL flight since they shifted to the revenue model, I have to admit to a small, small, tiny bit of schadenfreude over the whole thing, not for the poor pax (who at least in RDU were taking it well) but for the airline. Also realizing that Frontier is probably 5 times as hackable and can't get its website to function as intended in some browsers under NORMAL circumstances. And would likely be terrible in irregular operations, though probably not *quite* as bad as Spirit (F9 might get you a can of Sprite while you sleep on the floor).
Oh, and F9 still has the distance-based miles. ^ Got 1,000 where the same ticket on DL would have earned 190 (Oh, wait, more like 45 if you don't earn miles on the part paid for taxes). A thousand vs. 45...no wonder the rental cars have been earning the most legacy miles for me lately.
BTW, this should be a wake-up call in that a failure like this at any of the 3 legacies (power outage, Russian hackers, disgruntled employee sabotage or any other possibility) can't or won't be absorbed by the rest of the system. It reminds me of the UPS strike of years ago where the USPS and FedEx didn't have capacity to pick up the slack.
Thanks to these MERGERS and having just three major airlines, the pax get treated worse, the FF programs have been greatly devalued for the vast majority of pax, and if any one goes down then the rest of the system might not be able to help out that much - or at least there's not a good plan.
I do hope that guy doesn't have to stay in the airport overnight. Wasn't his fault.