Aug 9, 2016, 11:00 pm
Last edit by: LoganFlyer
Delta's Operational move from T5 to T2/3 at LAX:
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
In T2, there is a small Delta One seating area with refreshments. An agent will escort you from the check in/lounge area through a back pathway up stairs to TSA precheck. Its a shorter walk to check-in at SkyPriority and easier if you have a carry on and don't want to drag it up a flight of stairs. 11/3/17)
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
Delta has moved to: T2 and T3 with eventual connector to TBIT (note: there is currently only airside bus service to stay securely between T2 & T3, the walking connector has not been built yet.)
Where to check bags: As of January 13, 2020, non-Sky Priority customers must check their bag(s) at the terminal their flight departs from, unless their flight departs from TBIT, in which case, they must check their bag at Terminal 2. Sky priority customers can check their bag at either terminal. See this link for more information.
Date(s) of move: May 12, 2017 - May 17, 2017
Here is a helpful chart from Delta which covers all Domestic / Int'l. transfer combos (AND TOTAL TRANSFER TIMES) between T2, T3 & TBIT.
New Bus Routes will help with connections:
- Circular Airfield Bus between TBIT, T2 and T3
- Airfield Bus between T2 and T3
Bus Map
Will there be a SkyClub: Yes, there is one in each terminal. Virgin Atlantic Clubhouse will remain.
- The SkyClub in T2 opened on May 20th (Former AC Maple Leaf Lounge)
pix in post 1058
- The SkyClub in T3 opened on May 24th (Former VX Loft)
https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...d-updates.html
Where Will The Delta One Check In Lounge Be Located:
Delta will temporarily offer dedicated check-in space in Terminal 2 (first door closest to T1) while a long-term Delta One experience is finalized.
Airlines joining DL in T2/3 for landside and departures:
- AeroMexico (T2)
- Virgin Atlantic (T2)
- WestJet (T3)
Landside T2 only, departures from TBIT:
- Virgin Australia
- Volaris
Landside T3 only, departures from TBIT:
- Avianca/Taca
- Copa (effective April 7)
- InterJet
Will there be secure links between T2-T3 and TBIT: Yes, the final plan is to let pax walk between all airside.
External Links:
Press Release: http://news.delta.com/delta-relocate...rough-19b-plan
Rough link showing T2/3 connector:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmrq1UEAEUiF3.jpg
Proposed schedule from LAWA presentation:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnWmMDLVUAA1vNM.jpg
Delta fact sheet:
http://www.lawa.org/uploadedFiles/LA...ease-Delta.pdf
Delta's LAX destination page featuring 'Delta Sky Way at LAX':
http://www.delta.com/content/www/en_...-terminal.html
LAX 2017 Terminal Move: The Definitive Thread
Apr 19, 2016, 11:32 am
#91
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Insight
I'm not one to post, but I've come across a document that gives insight to the workings of international flights at LAX. As some of posted about their negative experiences at LAX (being bused to TBIT, long walks to different terminals), we should note that the operators of the airports and the airlines sometimes have little latitude over those types of operations. This document highlights the challenges LAX experiences with US Customs and Border Patrol.
http://lawa.granicus.com/MetaViewer....&meta_id=25168
http://lawa.granicus.com/MetaViewer....&meta_id=25168
Apr 19, 2016, 4:22 pm
#92
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After that, there will be a phased-move with airlines moving one at a time from T2 to TBIT, and T3 to T5 or T6 while Delta shifts some flight operations to T3, until all the flights are moved by Summer 2017. Renovation (probably just interim reno) of T3 will begin as soon as Delta has a lease on the terminal. A complete rebuild of T3 will have to wait until MSC is done so Delta can temporary use some TBIT North and/or TBIT MSC gates.
To facilitate transit to Virgin Atlantic and other SkyTeam partners prior to the rebuild, the plan is to have air-side bus connection between T2, T3, and TBIT until T3 rebuild is completed.
Apr 19, 2016, 5:03 pm
#93
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Delta rep made a presentation at my work today. He said DL is looking to complete the move to T2 and T3 by Summer 2017, pending LA city council approval on renovation plan and compensation to other airlines, which Delta expects the city council will approve in May or June.
After that, there will be a phased-move with airlines moving one at a time from T2 to TBIT, and T3 to T5 or T6 while Delta shifts some flight operations to T3, until all the flights are moved by Summer 2017. Renovation (probably just interim reno) of T3 will begin as soon as Delta has a lease on the terminal. A complete rebuild of T3 will have to wait until MSC is done so Delta can temporary use some TBIT North and/or TBIT MSC gates.
To facilitate transit to Virgin Atlantic and other SkyTeam partners prior to the rebuild, the plan is to have air-side bus connection between T2, T3, and TBIT until T3 rebuild is completed.
After that, there will be a phased-move with airlines moving one at a time from T2 to TBIT, and T3 to T5 or T6 while Delta shifts some flight operations to T3, until all the flights are moved by Summer 2017. Renovation (probably just interim reno) of T3 will begin as soon as Delta has a lease on the terminal. A complete rebuild of T3 will have to wait until MSC is done so Delta can temporary use some TBIT North and/or TBIT MSC gates.
To facilitate transit to Virgin Atlantic and other SkyTeam partners prior to the rebuild, the plan is to have air-side bus connection between T2, T3, and TBIT until T3 rebuild is completed.
Now that the new "upgrade" is online and the chance of being moved "up" to a Comfort+ middle seat has reared it's head on a future reservation I'm getting tired of playing this shell game with DL.
Apr 19, 2016, 10:29 pm
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Delta rep made a presentation at my work today. He said DL is looking to complete the move to T2 and T3 by Summer 2017, pending LA city council approval on renovation plan and compensation to other airlines, which Delta expects the city council will approve in May or June.
After that, there will be a phased-move with airlines moving one at a time from T2 to TBIT, and T3 to T5 or T6 while Delta shifts some flight operations to T3, until all the flights are moved by Summer 2017. Renovation (probably just interim reno) of T3 will begin as soon as Delta has a lease on the terminal. A complete rebuild of T3 will have to wait until MSC is done so Delta can temporary use some TBIT North and/or TBIT MSC gates.
To facilitate transit to Virgin Atlantic and other SkyTeam partners prior to the rebuild, the plan is to have air-side bus connection between T2, T3, and TBIT until T3 rebuild is completed.
After that, there will be a phased-move with airlines moving one at a time from T2 to TBIT, and T3 to T5 or T6 while Delta shifts some flight operations to T3, until all the flights are moved by Summer 2017. Renovation (probably just interim reno) of T3 will begin as soon as Delta has a lease on the terminal. A complete rebuild of T3 will have to wait until MSC is done so Delta can temporary use some TBIT North and/or TBIT MSC gates.
To facilitate transit to Virgin Atlantic and other SkyTeam partners prior to the rebuild, the plan is to have air-side bus connection between T2, T3, and TBIT until T3 rebuild is completed.
Apr 19, 2016, 10:41 pm
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Agreed, though LAX is exceptional in terms of profitability and traffic. DL has decided to stake a claim there, like NYC, which I think is smart. T 5 has been bursting at the seams since the merger.
Apr 20, 2016, 6:49 am
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Delta only spent $11M on their last LAX renovation. The rest was LAWA spending on terminal infrastructure that will be reused by whomever moves into T5.
Apr 20, 2016, 8:17 am
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Apr 20, 2016, 8:25 am
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Assuming the move to T-2/3 happens, this makes sense for DL long term to be closer to TBIT, getting more gates, and being able to add more destinations out of LAX.
It is absolutely going to stink for another couple of years, but if this can be DL's home in LAX for the foreseeable future, I think DL has to put up with some headaches to make the next 10-20 years more successful.
It is absolutely going to stink for another couple of years, but if this can be DL's home in LAX for the foreseeable future, I think DL has to put up with some headaches to make the next 10-20 years more successful.
Apr 20, 2016, 8:28 am
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My guess (and it's just a guess) is that DL is effectively paying for the money LAWA put into Terminal 5 in rent payments; I would also guess that if they're paying for the renovations/reconstruction in T2/3, they won't pay higher rent for the privilege (otherwise they wouldn't be moving). Indeed, DL must really like the long term outlook in T2/3 (presumably mostly the extra gates, although I wouldn't be surprised if costs like rent play a role in the calculations as well) to put up with leaving a pretty decent terminal for another several years of working through construction.
Apr 20, 2016, 8:41 am
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NOTE TO SELF: Avoid LAX connections involving DL for at least the next five years.
Apr 20, 2016, 9:45 am
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T3 is not great, and I'm being nice. What's worse here is that for some CA cities, the only option is on UA (or AA) via LAX. For example, I'm flying this weekend JFK-LAX-SBA, and I bought the ticket LAX-SBA separately from UA. If they move to T3, that connection will become a huge PITA, and that's if you can connect airside. Connecting landside, especially given LAX traffic and security lines, is not really a viable option. If that happens I will have to greatly reduce my flying JFK-LAX on DL, as I'm often headed to SBA.
Apr 20, 2016, 9:53 am
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Apr 20, 2016, 1:26 pm
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I'd much prefer to walk through the tunnel (or ride on the electric golf cart) than take a bus or be forced to walk landside.
