Delta Flight Attendants File For Union...
Jan 13, 2015, 2:01 pm
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If I can remember back to my aviation legislation class I believe that the RLA trumps right to work laws. Union dues must be collected from all employees operating under the RLA. Disgusting.
Jan 13, 2015, 2:03 pm
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Because some of them miss their cushy union jobs, have had to take pay cuts and actually work as a flight attendant??
Jan 13, 2015, 2:04 pm
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Jan 13, 2015, 2:05 pm
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It's true. Airlines employee do not benefit from the Right to Work laws,
Jan 13, 2015, 2:13 pm
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[QUOTE=dieuwer2;24160411]According to SCOTUS, as a private employee you cannot be forced to pay union dues: http://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-...ees-1404138001[/
Since airlines fall under the RLA they cannot refrain from paying dues. They are required to pay at least a portion of the dues known as an Agency Fee
Since airlines fall under the RLA they cannot refrain from paying dues. They are required to pay at least a portion of the dues known as an Agency Fee
Jan 13, 2015, 2:14 pm
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Jan 13, 2015, 2:15 pm
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According to SCOTUS, as a private employee you cannot be forced to pay union dues: http://www.wsj.com/articles/supreme-...ees-1404138001
Jan 13, 2015, 2:19 pm
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Jan 13, 2015, 2:21 pm
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If it's close, the outcome almost depends on whether a few people on each side don't vote. The union gets a new random draw each year until they get "lucky", but once the FAs have a union, it could be hard to get rid of it even if people aren't happy with the situation.
However, it did not work out well for them in the end.
I believe the NW mechanics also changed unions; that really backfired.
Jan 13, 2015, 2:22 pm
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Ouch.
With the drop in union membership overall, I can see why union supporters are so vocal these days. The company I work for has quite a few unions, but the majority is non union. Their strategy is basically to keep the non union pay/benefits/policies generous enough that joining a union doesn't make sense. Ironically that means that in many instances, what the union bargained for is less than what non union employees get. In my limited experience, it seems some unions don't necessarily bargain for what's best. They just bargain for something that's not worse than they have, that's the biggest sticking point, they want to keep whatever they have even if there might be a better option out there.
With the drop in union membership overall, I can see why union supporters are so vocal these days. The company I work for has quite a few unions, but the majority is non union. Their strategy is basically to keep the non union pay/benefits/policies generous enough that joining a union doesn't make sense. Ironically that means that in many instances, what the union bargained for is less than what non union employees get. In my limited experience, it seems some unions don't necessarily bargain for what's best. They just bargain for something that's not worse than they have, that's the biggest sticking point, they want to keep whatever they have even if there might be a better option out there.
Jan 13, 2015, 2:26 pm
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I was just trying to cite examples of industries where there are "professionals" in a union, my intention was not to imply that the whole industry or field is unionized. My point is that pilots are not alone in being higher wage earning/high skilled professionals that are also sometimes in a union (and now I'm waiting for you bus driver references). Also, given how badly unions are doing, I would say 20% is a rather high number.
Jan 13, 2015, 2:30 pm
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I was just trying to cite examples of industries where there are "professionals" in a union, my intention was not to imply that the whole industry or field is unionized. My point is that pilots are not alone in being higher wage earning/high skilled professionals that are also sometimes in a union (and now I'm waiting for you bus driver references). Also, given how badly unions are doing, I would say 20% is a rather high number.
Jan 13, 2015, 2:30 pm
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Jan 13, 2015, 2:32 pm
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I was just trying to cite examples of industries where there are "professionals" in a union, my intention was not to imply that the whole industry or field is unionized. My point is that pilots are not alone in being higher wage earning/high skilled professionals that are also sometimes in a union (and now I'm waiting for you bus driver references). Also, given how badly unions are doing, I would say 20% is a rather high number.
FWIW, I'd actually argue that pilots have unions because they aren't, in reality, terribly skilled.