hazelrah

Jeff Robertson on "Having Three Redemption Tiers Instead of Two"

- "We felt like introducing 40,000 and 60,000 is the right solution. Really, 40,000 miles is becoming popular."

LOL

http://boardingarea.com/viewfromthew...han-its-peers/

Beckles

Since you can see the future, can you share with us who will win the Superbowl in 2015 as well?

StayingHomeIsBetter

I highlighted the operative qualifiers.

There is no incentive for DL management to trim elite ranks. They repeatedly demonstrate that they have no qualms about offending elites, so there is no reason to believe that they are trying to curry favor among us.

And, the more inflated the elite ranks, the more it benefits the bottom line. Competition within a bloated elite tier can serve to prompt elites to buy higher fares, etc., to posture themselves better to obtain increasingly sparse and hard to obtain benefits such as FC UGs.

Sorry, I am going to continue to view any claims that they are trying to reduce the number of elites to be empty PR rhetoric.

StayingHomeIsBetter

^^^

Well put.

The flack that DL management are receiving right now comes directly from expectations engendered by management's behavior patterns over the last five years or so.

People are naturally cynical when they hear assurances that sound like the same sort of false promises they have received time and time again.

Delta management put themselves into this credibility hole and they are not wise enough yet to recognize the need to put down the shovel.

GUWonder

It has nothing to do with seeing the future, but it has to do with knowing the present.

Beckles

Regardless of your beliefs why Delta is implementing MQD, the reality is that it will thin the elite ranks from where they would have been under the pre-MQD conditions.

StayingHomeIsBetter

"Officer, I recognize that it was a 55 mph zone, but I really feel you should give me credit for the fact that I had already reduced my speed from 75 to 74 mph."



Sometimes, incremental improvements are not enough.

mnredfox

Does someone have his post/quote archived where he promised no less low awards available with 3 tier?

DL2SXM

And I think that a lot of folks, especially DM's, will be willing to walk away from skymiles at this point. I am one of them. I wrote delta a very respectful letter and sent it via the delta website. They can do what they want with it.

5khours

I agree. DL management has absolutely no credibility because they have repeatedly and consistently shown themselves to be dishonest and untrustworthy.

waltinsocal

+1...Additionally, since DL is making a lot of money, there is no incentive to change anything, and if anything, the current DL culture will become more embedded. Fortunately, those of us who are not hub captive, have other choices and can either choose to make them or not. The hub captives, who are the usual apologists by the way, are stuck.

CoMooter

+1 (More - and I keep promising myself to stay away from these threads but much like M. Corleone "they keep pulling me back in...")

I was willing to give this somewhat of a chance until the charts came out. After seeing them - and the ripe opportunities for mischief - my SM will be burned down this year by finding what I can - and then bye-bye (again - did this already in 2003 under Mad King Leo).

The math is very simple, it is going to cost me - or my company - $22,727 in business to have a minimum chance (and that is a very shaky chance) at scoring a measly two lousy J class tix to W. Europe (DM earning rates - no Amex). That is a lot of trips to CLT/IND/MCI/DFW and other 'short hops' within the US - I figure about 60-70 roundtrips (!@#@) at what I usually spend on tix - $300-$400 r/t. At only minimum earning rates for current (500 mile min) all those r/t's (4 flights each) would equate to 270K minimum.

So I lose on the domestics - and I really lose on the international flights which used to make up the difference to get to anything like useful amounts of miles.

No way on this one for me...for the $4-5K per week in last minute (or lack of planning) air travel folks that I had no idea were so plentiful until now but are now loving all this, knock yourselves out and have a good time. It sounds like upgrades are going to be a lot easier even later this year as the masses start to understand what is going on (most DL folks that I have talked to in the last two weeks on DL flights still have no clue what is coming).

I must have picked the wrong career track - but there is no way my employer - or career field - are ever going to foot these kind of tickets. There is just no need to usually buy them at anywhere near the kinds of prices that are going to be needed to even break even with current earning rates.

DL increased the price of the currency but shows no real indications of increasing their value of the currency beyond loose 'promises'. Fool me once...and bye-bye as there are still choices out there.

A combination of AA, WN and (gulp) UA looks very preferable to playing this game.

scottsam66

Seems like you are whining about the whining. Didn't your momma ever teach you about two wrongs not making a right???
Cut your own DL loving crapola!
Pip pip cheerio

kettle1

Thanks for the personal attack. And don't bring up my mama. Enjoy your weekend. Give me a break.

travelexpert

Delta loyalists have had an awful ff program for years.

It is still awful--albeit with the new changes not as bad as many anticipated--so not terribly awful.

And Delta management knows you'll just suck it up.

So stop with the long rants. Delta could not care less. They know you're tied to them for the long haul.

Now United has a much better ff program. However, the problem with flying United is just that--you have to deal with an awful airline run by inept management.

Bottom line--do you want to fly an excellent airline with an awful frequent flyer program? Or fly a poorly run airline with a very good frequent flyer program?

Maybe, just maybe, the new American will show you can have both.