Mar 6, 2014, 10:11 am
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Direct link at Delta.com: http://www.delta.com/content/dam/delta-www/skymiles/2015-program/2015SMP-award.pdf
New Delta Award Redemption Charts Released
Mar 7, 2014, 2:22 pm
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Mar 7, 2014, 2:54 pm
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You're comparing the one-way cash cost to a round-trip Standard (not Saver) Award, what point you're trying to make is lost on me.
Mar 7, 2014, 3:16 pm
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Mar 7, 2014, 4:54 pm
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Mar 7, 2014, 4:57 pm
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And when you redeemed an award, you not only received the flight, you also received a voucher for a hotel and a car rental as well (at least with NW).
Mar 7, 2014, 6:09 pm
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This kind of stuff was also taking place with othe US airlines too -- with UA this too was still the norm even after FT was launched in 1998.
Mar 7, 2014, 6:43 pm
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2) Jury is still out on if MQD is a really going to shrink ranks or just create more Amex revenue since people can use the card spend loopholes.
I think this is way more complicated than just DL can do no right. As a paid F/J flyer, the MQD/Too Many Medallions and SC changes really don't matter to me. Be that as it may I have empathy for the folks on FT that got a bit butt hurt over taking a hit while potential HVCs in NYC were getting things on platinum platter.
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I think this is way more complicated than just DL can do no right. As a paid F/J flyer, the MQD/Too Many Medallions and SC changes really don't matter to me. Be that as it may I have empathy for the folks on FT that got a bit butt hurt over taking a hit while potential HVCs in NYC were getting things on platinum platter.
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Mar 7, 2014, 6:44 pm
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As to trimming elite ranks, have I missed something? Other than possibly driving people away with the new earnings rules (something all DL supporters deny is even conceivable), what have they done to trim the elite ranks..... Oh, yes, MQDs. In about 2 months I will have passed my AMEX spend threshold. MQDs, I assert, were introduced more with the intent of swelling AMEX cardholder ranks than trimming medallion ranks.
Mar 7, 2014, 7:01 pm
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Please, this is accounting 101. The "incremental cost of goods sold" is not impacted by sales - either actual or anticipated. The Incremental Cost Method recognizes a liability for the marginal cost of providing air transportation to eligible award passengers (i.e. the cost of taxes, fuel, food, etc.) to fly one additional passenger on a seat that otherwise would have been empty—generally a nominal amount. Sales is not a variable in the calculation.
As for the long-term implications, that is objectively not impacted by accounting. That is definitely accounting 101. Might even be covered on the first day of class.
Mar 7, 2014, 7:09 pm
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SC crowding... impact of $695 membership remains to be seen. Meanwhile, they are giving away 1 year memberships to folks taking 1 BE flight. Do you really expect that DL management has any true enthusiasm for decreasing access now that they have reamed out all of the clubs to provide for mass occupancy?
As to trimming elite ranks, have I missed something? Other than possibly driving people away with the new earnings rules (something all DL supporters deny is even conceivable), what have they done to trim the elite ranks..... Oh, yes, MQDs. In about 2 months I will have passed my AMEX spend threshold. MQDs, I assert, were introduced more with the intent of swelling AMEX cardholder ranks than trimming medallion ranks.
As to trimming elite ranks, have I missed something? Other than possibly driving people away with the new earnings rules (something all DL supporters deny is even conceivable), what have they done to trim the elite ranks..... Oh, yes, MQDs. In about 2 months I will have passed my AMEX spend threshold. MQDs, I assert, were introduced more with the intent of swelling AMEX cardholder ranks than trimming medallion ranks.
Mar 7, 2014, 7:29 pm
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Mar 7, 2014, 9:08 pm
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Days like this help keep things in perspective.
Malaysia Airlines loses contact with Boeing 777-200 carrying 227 passengers
We've passionately debated topics here that, when you get down to it, are just business, trivial in the grand scheme of things. Be thankful for every safe flight no matter who you're flying, and thoughts go out to those on board and their loved ones.
Malaysia Airlines loses contact with Boeing 777-200 carrying 227 passengers
We've passionately debated topics here that, when you get down to it, are just business, trivial in the grand scheme of things. Be thankful for every safe flight no matter who you're flying, and thoughts go out to those on board and their loved ones.
Mar 7, 2014, 9:19 pm
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Agreed...
The problem for me is as a non-DL hub flyer the benefits of dealing with (generally) much better customer service are being eroded more by what is going on here.
I am already booking away from DL due what I now see as no real improvement in cost (and probably) availability. I was going wait a bit longer, but my AA flight reservation queue is showing more activity than it has in years. The fact that they did not want to push those charts out this early is telling about where this really headed.
I was willing to put up with SM's lousy redemption realities before, but I see little good in these charts, plenty of opportunity for 'creativity' on DL's part with the added problem of little opportunity of earning close to the amount of RDM miles I currently get. So, there is going to be a huge wind-down in the amount of business going to DL later this year - and certainly next year.
There is also certainly no reason for me to have a DL Reserve card anymore after this year. My earlier hope that DL SM would be more valuable next year - or any time soon - seems a bit far fetched now
FF 'benefits' do have a place in making good old-fashioned decisions on who to steer money towards. I realize that there are a lot of games out there - on both the FF and airline sides - but this is one 'game' too far.
The problem for me is as a non-DL hub flyer the benefits of dealing with (generally) much better customer service are being eroded more by what is going on here.
I am already booking away from DL due what I now see as no real improvement in cost (and probably) availability. I was going wait a bit longer, but my AA flight reservation queue is showing more activity than it has in years. The fact that they did not want to push those charts out this early is telling about where this really headed.
I was willing to put up with SM's lousy redemption realities before, but I see little good in these charts, plenty of opportunity for 'creativity' on DL's part with the added problem of little opportunity of earning close to the amount of RDM miles I currently get. So, there is going to be a huge wind-down in the amount of business going to DL later this year - and certainly next year.
There is also certainly no reason for me to have a DL Reserve card anymore after this year. My earlier hope that DL SM would be more valuable next year - or any time soon - seems a bit far fetched now
FF 'benefits' do have a place in making good old-fashioned decisions on who to steer money towards. I realize that there are a lot of games out there - on both the FF and airline sides - but this is one 'game' too far.