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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australias Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Aug 28, 2014, 3:14 pm
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I called to check on upgrade inventory in our LAX-SYD flight on Saturday. It appeared (or so I was told) as the agent was checking it for me. She cleared us. Glad I called. I am waitlisted for BKK in October, and will keep calling on that one too.
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 5:22 pm
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Originally Posted by FC flyer
I called to check on upgrade inventory in our LAX-SYD flight on Saturday. It appeared (or so I was told) as the agent was checking it for me. She cleared us. Glad I called. I am waitlisted for BKK in October, and will keep calling on that one too.
You cleared for this Sat (Aug 30)? Is it a light load?
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Old Aug 28, 2014, 8:52 pm
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LAX-SYD for this Sat is pretty open. Its showing J9 and even Z3, so not surprising there is upgrade inventory available.
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 7:00 am
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Originally Posted by FC flyer
I called to check on upgrade inventory in our LAX-SYD flight on Saturday. It appeared (or so I was told) as the agent was checking it for me. She cleared us. Glad I called. I am waitlisted for BKK in October, and will keep calling on that one too.
Without a tool like EF, such episodes increase my concerns about DL IT and agents.
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Old Aug 29, 2014, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by Xeno
Without a tool like EF, such episodes increase my concerns about DL IT and agents.
As said earlier, I called 3 different times and got 3 different answers. After 2 agents and a supervisor both said that I could clear at the gate in AMS (not true), I had an agent consult the T&C and then she realized that they do their own gate control in AMS. Long story short, I just extended my trip another day and cleared at booking.

The scary part is that the agents don't truly know how these work in every situation and without EF, we are subject to their knowledge or lack there of.
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 9:53 am
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Can I apply a Global Upgrade Certificate to itinerary after booking?

Total GUC newbie here. I have booked a LAX-SYD in December for my son and I. I am going to be Diamond by that time and will have the 4 certs and was wondering could I use those on a trip already booked or do you need to earn the certs before booking?

Also my son has no status does that matter, or do they even apply to a travel companion? Could I use a cert to just upgrade myself and give that seat to my son once OnBoard? I have flow BE, but it would be his first experience which I know he'd really like. Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the advice.
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 10:21 am
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Originally Posted by dollerman73
I am going to be Diamond by that time and will have the 4 certs and was wondering could I use those on a trip already booked or do you need to earn the certs before booking?
If you'll note my original post #1, I was in the middle of a trip in Germany - outbound already flown, when the GUCs were available for the first time. Just after midnight on the first day of issue, I ordered the GUCs online, then called and applied a GUC to my return trip home several days later.

Companions- not sure.

LAX/SYD is a tough one. One flight a day - always packed with paid pax up front, from what I've read here. Good luck, and do post your results!



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Old Sep 1, 2014, 10:23 am
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Originally Posted by dollerman73
Total GUC newbie here. I have booked a LAX-SYD in December for my son and I. I am going to be Diamond by that time and will have the 4 certs and was wondering could I use those on a trip already booked or do you need to earn the certs before booking?

Also my son has no status does that matter, or do they even apply to a travel companion? Could I use a cert to just upgrade myself and give that seat to my son once OnBoard? I have flow BE, but it would be his first experience which I know he'd really like. Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the advice.
You can (attempt to) apply the certs on any itinerary. It doesn't matter when it was booked.

They can be applied to you and a traveling companion. I don't know what would happen if there's only one seat available (if they'd offer it to you).
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Originally Posted by dollerman73
Total GUC newbie here. I have booked a LAX-SYD in December for my son and I. I am going to be Diamond by that time and will have the 4 certs and was wondering could I use those on a trip already booked or do you need to earn the certs before booking?

Also my son has no status does that matter, or do they even apply to a travel companion? Could I use a cert to just upgrade myself and give that seat to my son once OnBoard? I have flow BE, but it would be his first experience which I know he'd really like. Sorry for all the questions, and thanks for the advice.
Several suggestions. (1)Arrange your coach seats to the way you would like to be seated should you only get one BE seat. In other words, if you like aisle seats, place your son in them in case you only get one upgrade. Your seat will be reassigned to someone, you can give your BE ticket to your son, and sit in his coach seat. (2) Before you get the GUCs, call delta and find out if those flights you are booked on have upgrade availability (remember, those certificates expire one year after you select them as your choice benefit). If yes, then get the certificates and call delta back. (3) If you get two BE seats, wonderful. If you only get one, take it, give your BE boarding pass to your son, and enjoy your son's coach seat. I've done that many times and have never been questioned -- just tell your son to answer to your name. (This is assuming he is old enough to sit in a BE seat without being questioned--i.e., if he were very young that might cause a problem.)

My GUCs posted almost immediately after I chose them. In my situation, I had not purchased my tickets yet, but called Delta with several flight options and once they told me which ones were available, I bought the tickets and called back to upgrade.

Good luck and hope you get those upgrades. Your son will be thrilled!
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Old Sep 1, 2014, 5:17 pm
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Good luck and hope you get those upgrades. Your son will be thrilled!
Thanks all, great info!
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Old Sep 3, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Last minute I managed to find availability and used a GUC for DTW to PVG and return, leaving in 3 days time, $1600 and GUC applied, confirmed in BE it took all of 3 minutes with the diamond desk.
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My GUC situation proving to be more difficult than others, apparently.

I am flying jax-jfk-nrt-sin, sin-nrt-jfk-jax in October. Called to apply 2 x GUCs for the outbound and return. Was told that there is only GUC availability on the SIN-NRT portion. They could confirm me on that, and would waitlist me on the other 3 non-domestic segments. However, if I didn't clear for the NRT-JFK return, my certificate would be considered 'used', even for this 'short' 7hr hop SIN-NRT so I declined.

I had them waitlist me on the JFK-NRT leg and NRT-JFK leg. Once those clear (read: if), then I will get waitlisted on the NRT-SIN-NRT segments. I dont want to burn one of these certs for the NRT-SIN-NRT segments, so I think this is the safest way. I'll likely have a SYD trip and DXB trip in early Jan/Feb, so if these don't clear I'll save them for then.

It would be nice though if these cleared based on seats, not based on fares. Definitely an upgrade from the YBM certs, but it seems I am having a more difficult time than others.
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Old Sep 4, 2014, 9:45 am
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Used my first GUC on ATL-JNB 1 Sep. I was on a T fare and was 1 of 12 for 6 seats to upgrade. Upgrade cleared about 1 hour prior to the departure time. (Saw the upgrade clear on my iphone) Had my ticket about 6 weeks ago and called to apply the GUC just after I bought it and then waitlisted. This is the first time I have used a GUC, all the other times I was on a B or M ticket using System wide upgrades. So far I'm 5 of 5 for upgrading none of those upgrades has ever cleared prior to T-1 hour.

Everything was great until I arrived in JNB. About 3 hours after I landed, the rest of my itinerary was gone. (On 3 Sep. I had a flight on SA to POL, along with my return trip in 6 weeks) When I called Delta they said someone cancelled my flight because I was a no-show.....They had to reinstate my flights and link the PNRs back with SA Airlink. I was worried I lost my EC seat that I had for the return flight but luckily the original seat I had was still empty. All is well again.
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Old Sep 8, 2014, 2:27 pm
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My first attempt at using GUC's. JFK-LHR x2 and was able to process in less than 5 nins for dates I wanted on a V fare.
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Old Sep 9, 2014, 5:57 pm
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Successfully used a 2nd GUC on the return flight from SYD-LAX-JFK on DL16 through flight. I was waitlisted till I checked in at the airport on departure with 6 seats open and 1st on the list, I was given the BE boarding card at check-in (snagged 6B, though my favorite being 7A on the 777 but 2nd favorite with more storage), and since I had a BE boarding pass it meant I was also able to use the Air New Zealand Koru lounge! Score!
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