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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australia’s Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:22 pm
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Thank you! I thought of HUCA - but the agent sounded so sure of himself! What I'm certain of myself - 2 years ago, I did this successfully - bought a DL marketed/ KL operated ticket that was definitely not YBM. That agent had no problem getting me upgraded. Not sure if I lucked out with a better agent or the rules have changed. The main published rules on the GUC page re which fare classes can upgrade hasn't changed from 2017. However, what today's agent referred to (DL marketed / KL operated ticket can only upgrade into O class - or something like that) is something I hadn't heard before. 2 years ago, my Q and N DL fare tickets upgraded into a Z class.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:24 pm
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Originally Posted by clsm
After @Delta let me know there were upgrades available for KLM 606 on 18 JUL SFO to AMS, I happily selected my GUCs as choice benefit. When I called them to build my itinerary, I was told that the flight has to be purchased as KL marketed/operated - which would require a Y/B/M flight class. Agent said the flight only has upgradable seats into Z class so must purchase Y (whereas B & M can upgrade into O class, which are unavailable). I asked why I couldn't purchase as a DL marketed ticket so I can upgrade a cheaper V class. Was told that no upgrades were available for DL marketed tickets. I had an agent tell me on a previous call that DL tickets can be reissued as KL ones -- or something like that. (Frankly, I'm getting really turned around on all the details). Any way around what I've been told? I want a return leg AMS --> JFK on 4 AUG.
Buy the ticket. Then call back to upgrade. Agents get confused because they think flight is operated and marketed by KLM.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by kxc262
Buy the ticket. Then call back to upgrade. Agents get confused because they think flight is operated and marketed by KLM.
Also good advice. Having something concrete (the DL-marketed KL-operated low-main-cabin-fare ticket) to work with may help focus the agent's mind and/or may just prompt them to call a support desk where people generally seem to know better what they're doing.

But, there are also annoyingly many agents who don't know this stuff or get it mixed up, so some HUCA may still be required.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:33 pm
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So both kxc262 and bgriff are of the opinion that this agent was simply wrong? I've put in a query w/ @Delta, asking if I can buy as DL flights and use GUC.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by clsm
So both kxc262 and bgriff are of the opinion that this agent was simply wrong? I've put in a query w/ @Delta, asking if I can buy as DL flights and use GUC.
Yes I always just buy the DL ticket first, then call to upgrade. My first time - got the YBM fare requirement / GUC expiration date error. My second time using GUC - I call and asked to be transferred to international ticketing. I have international ticketing agents process the GUC upgrades - quicker and they know the rules better in my experience. They also know that KLM does not allow waitlisting (at least past 2 agents I've worked with from international ticketing).

KLM GUC Experience 2018
KLM GUC Experience 2017 -- this experience is why I only work with international ticketing for GUC upgrades now. There are plenty of inconsistencies with DM agents.

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Old Jan 24, 2019, 4:42 pm
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Originally Posted by clsm
So both kxc262 and bgriff are of the opinion that this agent was simply wrong? I've put in a query w/ @Delta, asking if I can buy as DL flights and use GUC.
Don't bother with the Twitter desk for this, unfortunately Twitter is extremely bad these days about knowing the right rules on complex topics like this.

Just buy the ticket (as long as you're originating from the US, you have until midnight tomorrow to cancel at no penalty if something goes wrong) and then call in to process the upgrade (and HUCA if you get a bad agent when you call back). Should be fine. Just lots of frustrating misinformation from Delta along the way.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 5:16 pm
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@Delta just replied all tix must be purchased as KL tickets in order to use GUC. I’ll just purchase and hope I get an agent who knows what they’re doing.
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 6:29 pm
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@Delta saying no availability for DL coded flights. So maybe the earlier agent was right. He wasn’t saying I couldn’t use GUC on DL coded flights. Just said there was no availability for such tickets.

What I wished clarified here is - does KLM have different availabilities for using GUCs for KL vs DL coded tickets?
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Old Jan 24, 2019, 6:54 pm
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Both the agent you initially spoke with and DL Twitter are wrong. Full stop.

I literally upgraded that exact same flight less than two weeks ago (albeit for a different travel date). I booked via DL.com and got I think a T fare on the DL flight number.

After my GUC was processed, I am now ticketed on KL606 in Z class. Fully confirmed with a new 006 ticket, seat assignments, etc.

Twitter seems to give me nothing but bad information these days, and the first DM agent I spoke to had no idea what inventory to look for.

As others have said, go ahead and book your ticket with DL flight #s and then HUCA the DM line until you get an agent who knows how to do the UG.

ETA: there is the small chance that while all these agents were giving you bad info, someone else snagged the remaining Z inventory. If you have EF you may want to take a look to confirm for yourself that there is still Z space on the KL flights you want. If so, you can/should call fully armed with the knowledge that you can use your GUC to upgrade from DL-marketed V fare to KL-marketed Z class.
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Old Jan 27, 2019, 9:29 am
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Thank you for all the help from everyone on this thread. Was able to upgrade YYZ - AMS - ATH - AMS - YYZ for two people into KLM business class throughout. Took trying with 3 different agents (all of them apparently being international ticketing). The first guy was super quiet and didn't seem like he realized I was talking to him, the 2nd was clearly a US based agent (guessing from Atlanta) who told me I needed to hold on for her to "do her thing". She then said she did this all the time upgrading KLM and it wasn't going to work. The 3rd agent was great, although I was on hold forever. Told her once and put me on hold, checked online at delta.com after 15 minutes to see it was all upgraded...another 10 minutes and she finally said it was all done and it was her helpdesk taking forever and emailed me. Only actually "talked" to her for a few minutes.

Fewer additional complexities to give others hope:

- redeemed 2 Delta eCredits (both from choice benefits platinum status) plus 2 $50 dollar delta gift cards (from Amex Gold airline fee credit). You cannot redeem these together online so I called and got it to work. Note, I selected my 2nd $200 choice benefit last time and although it was open on my account, when trying to buy last night it wouldn't work for ticketing. This morning I received an email saying it was redeemable so I called back to issue the economy tickets
- my 4 Delta GUC expire Jan 31st, 2019 but my travel is in October 2019. The 2nd agent told me it wasn't possible as I was traveling after the expiration date. The 3rd agent didn't care
- Twitter team said it wasn't possible and needed to be KLM Y, B, M fares. They are clearly wrong

Apparently by the time I fly KLM will be operating their new 787-10 with their new business class seats on both legs of YYZ - AMS. Hopefully they do. Not setting any expectations though after being plane swapped from Singapore Airlines brand to A380 suite to their old A380 suite early this year.
Keep up the good work people!
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Old Jan 28, 2019, 7:17 pm
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Is there a certain cut-off time where waitlisted GUCs won't clear and must go to the gate? E.g. if I'm 2 days out from check-in, is the window for a waitlisted GUC to clear gone?

Asking about DL 40 SYD-LAX on Friday. 9 D1 seats available still so it seems like I should have a pretty good shot of getting it.
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Old Jan 28, 2019, 9:42 pm
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Originally Posted by kxc262
150% distance flown for MQM.
40% distance flown for MQD.
This is for legs operated by KLM.
Isn't that for paid Biz? -- if one uses a GUC I assume they have upgraded from a coach ticket and will get MQM/MQD based on the purchased fare class...
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Old Jan 28, 2019, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by TheMadBrewer
Isn't that for paid Biz? -- if one uses a GUC I assume they have upgraded from a coach ticket and will get MQM/MQD based on the purchased fare class...
GUCs on KLM metal earn MQD/MQM differently. GUCs in DL metal earn based on purchased class.
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Old Jan 29, 2019, 7:39 pm
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I am looking at roundtrip ZZZ-JFK-LHR, with the same routing on the return, ZZZ-JFK on DL and JFK-LHR on VS.

Both the outbound and return show VS mileage availability to F/D1 and VS Upper Class on both segments on DL.com. And in my experience, VS mileage availability is almost always indicative of GUC availability; it even says as much on the wiki above.

However, I called to confirm availability and while DL sees both segments available on the outbound, they see only LHR-JFK on the return. I’ve tried HUCA a couple of times over the past few days as I suspect this is not correct -- but that's gotten some exceptionally poor responses that have been both dead wrong and ultimately unrelated to my question at hand (“I can’t check availability on partners”, “even if partners have availability, upgrades won’t clear until day of departure”, “you have to buy each segment separately to use a GUC”, etc.)

I have a lot of questions, and am hoping some of you might chime in. Have I just been reaching really bad agents (3 in a row seems quite unlucky?), has something changed in 2019 with VS and GUCs (I don’t think so?), is there a secret sauce to finding competent agents and/or redeeming GUCs on VS?

Any ideas?
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Old Jan 30, 2019, 7:33 am
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Success but almost screwed up along the way

I flew a DL-coded, DL-operated flight out of AMS a couple of days ago. I applied a GUC a couple of weeks before the flight, but it didn't clear until T-24 hours. When it cleared, the DL app showed "Unassigned Delta One (OY)" for my seat. I couldn't select a seat through the app or the website, so I called. The agent said that because it's a flight out of AMS with less than 24 hours before the flight, it was under KL control. Fair enough. I asked the agent if the ticket was reissued correctly after the GUC cleared, and he said it was.

I checked in via the KL website (the first leg to AMS was DL-coded but KL-operated) and the KL website showed my old coach seat on the flight out of AMS. Uh-oh. I get to the airport and check in via the kiosk and get a BP for my old coach seat. Double uh-oh. Luckily, I had a 2.5 hour connection in AMS, so I figure I'll take care of it at the KL AMS lounge.

I arrive at said lounge and explain the situation. The lounge attendant was an absolute angel. She made a phone call and after the agent on the other end of the call dug in to it, it turns out that when DL reissued the ticket, they didn't take my old seat out, so I had two seats on the plane. That wasn't going to work. The agent the KL lounge attendant was talking to told her I had to call the DL DM line to get it fixed. The KL lounge attendant offered to stay there and talk to the DM agent if necessary.

I call the DM line and the agent there immediately transfers me to the JV line. Long hold time for that agent. But while I'm waiting for the JV agent to get on the phone, some other KL lounge attendant comes over and asks what's happening. The KL agent that has been working with me explains the situation to her and the agent that just walked in said something to the effect of "try calling our people again" in Dutch. So she does and this time, the agent on the other end of her phone is able to fix it. They just needed the certificate number and redemption code again. Phew. I hung my call where the JV agent had finally just answered and got a BP for D1.

Many thanks to the KL lounge agent for not giving up and no thanks to DL for screwing up yet another GUC.
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