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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australia’s Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Mar 29, 2018, 3:02 pm
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Originally Posted by DCADeltaRoadWarrior
Agreed - never seen this before either. I could see this being a mistake - i.e. thats how they clear on domestic flights, but not long haul international.
Given Delta's eternal struggles with IT, it could be that they would prefer not to have certificates clearing this way at the airport, but it's too much trouble (or just not a priority) to set up the computers to handle that, so instead they just have one system for ranking the airport priority list. Out of all the possibilities, having a different airport list ranking scheme for domestic vs. international feels the least likely of all, given the additional IT fine-tuning that would have required.

Delta would hardly be unique in having clunkiness in the airport upgrade prioritization system -- IIRC not sure if it's still the case but I think there was a point in time when both AA and UA had problems where companions cleared at the same priority as the elite member (like Delta's current system) for domestic upgrades if clearing in advance only, but they were separated on the gate upgrade list (like Delta's old system).
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 10:11 pm
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Hard to say what the true UG priority is for GUC. Obviously it’s programmed into the IT as you can see order on the app at T24. They used to go by fare class. Before that it was fare amount. Today it’s anyones guess.

Did anyone see the note about if you J portion clears then you aren’t waitlisted for any Y segments waiting to clear into F? That seems contrary to my experience.
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Old Mar 29, 2018, 10:26 pm
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Flying LAX-SLC-AMS-PRG-JFK-LAX in May. Called to apply GUC on SLC-AMS and RUC on JFK-LAX a couple days after booking and the outbound cleared, the JFK-LAX is waitlisted.

Since I won't requal as DM, it was a sad moment when I requested (and used one of) my last set of GUCs. I'm making a side trip to Berlin on this trip and past years I probably would have done two trips to get the MQM (not back to back, a month or so in between) but both age (mine) and the fact I don't need so many MQMs led to combining the trips. Will probably do the same on a Scandinavian trip this fall.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 9:53 am
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Originally Posted by mnredfox

Did anyone see the note about if you J portion clears then you aren’t waitlisted for any Y segments waiting to clear into F? That seems contrary to my experience.
Are you referring to this text?:
  • For example, if you are waitlisted on DTW-NRT and also JFK-LAX with one certificate, if a seat becomes available on the DTW-NRT flight you will be upgraded on that flight and you will no longer be waitlisted on the JFK-LAX flight as the certificate has been used.
My read of that section is it's saying, you can use a single cert to waitlist multiple different reservations. So if you're doing JFK-CDG, JFK-LHR, and JFK-MAD trips at separate times over the next few months, you could waitlist all three of them with the same individual certificate -- a GUC doesn't become "tied up" just because it's being used for a waitlist. (Unlike, for example, Starwood's Suite Night Awards, where they are counted as "used" in your tally if they are being waitlisted on a reservation and can't be waitlisted for more than one reservation at once.) But as soon as any one of those three trips clears, the others stop being waitlisted because that GUC is now used.

That's different from if you're flying ORD-JFK-CDG on a single reservation and have one GUC waitlisted for both segments, in which case you can still extend the GUC to ORD-JFK if it clears on JFK-CDG first.

The example used on Delta.com might be clearer if they listed two international routes rather than one international and one domestic, but either way, the two routes they give as an example are clearly not part of the same itinerary.
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Old Mar 30, 2018, 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by bgriff
This is the real question, isn't it?

My best guess would be Wednesday is the best option.

For domestic travel, weekends are often quieter up front. But for longhaul, and especially very longhaul like Asia, it's not uncommon for business travelers to go for a couple of weeks at a time, and to travel over the weekend since you lose so much time getting there. If you want to get to Asia for a Monday morning meeting, with any of Delta's Asia flights you need to depart on Saturday. (Presumably some business travelers are setting when their meetings will take place and don't want to lose their weekend, so they push for meetings later in the week -- but for most people if your client tells you the meeting is on Monday morning, you get on the Saturday flight.)

In theory even a Monday flight might have lower front cabin loads since that only gets you to Asia in time for a Wednesday meeting, but if people are doing a 2-week trip and don't want to give up their weekend beforehand, Monday departures could still be attractive.

Delta probably skews somewhat more toward US-based travelers than foreign travelers, but people based at the other end come into play too. Like Thursday departures from the US aren't likely attractive to many US-based business travelers, unless they are going for Monday and want to get there a few days early to sightsee or adjust to the jet lag, but Thursday departures would be attractive to any business travelers based in Asia who are on a trip to the US and want to get home by the weekend.
Thanks for your input. I agree with you and will go ahead and book Wednesday return then.
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Originally Posted by bgriff
Main cabin fare class is not a factor determining priority on the GUC upgrade list. See "Enjoying Priority" here: https://www.delta.com/content/www/en...-upgrades.html

I would guess in the previous poster's situation, someone bought a business class seat on the flight or changed from a different flight/routing/date ... seems pretty straightforward.
That's what they TELL us...but I was curious as a data point as the poster ended up #1 of 9 for the seats...question still stands
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Congrats to the 10 op ups today SLC-CDG. DL must have over sold coach by a lot!
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Originally Posted by mnredfox
Congrats to the 10 op ups today SLC-CDG. DL must have over sold coach by a lot!
^ Spring Break is a goldmine for int'l op-ups; anecdotally, I've had more success from mid-March to mid-April than any other time period. Especially on midweek flights where J demand is particularly low...
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I'm a first year DM and need some input (or perhaps reassurances) on flight choice for maximizing GUC upgrade success. I have three choices on my way back to Europe in 3ish weeks (DL72, DL74, and DL132). DL72 and DL132 have J7 or 8 at the moment, while DL74 has ~double the availability. I'd prefer the earlier arrivals of DL72 or DL132, and/or an upgrade to a D1 suite on DL132 would be, well sweet! But I'm leaning towards booking DL74 as I think the amount of J availability will maximize chance of upgrade success. Any thoughts from more experienced DMs?
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Originally Posted by rjjk123
I'm a first year DM and need some input (or perhaps reassurances) on flight choice for maximizing GUC upgrade success. I have three choices on my way back to Europe in 3ish weeks (DL72, DL74, and DL132). DL72 and DL132 have J7 or 8 at the moment, while DL74 has ~double the availability. I'd prefer the earlier arrivals of DL72 or DL132, and/or an upgrade to a D1 suite on DL132 would be, well sweet! But I'm leaning towards booking DL74 as I think the amount of J availability will maximize chance of upgrade success. Any thoughts from more experienced DMs?
Have you called or Tweeted Delta to ask if there is any confirmable space any of the flights? If any of the flights is likely to end up with empty seats, this close to departure they may have made the upgrade space available already. Ask them also to check all available routings for your full starting point-to-ending point trip (not just segment-by-segment), and also ask them to check KLM flights -- it might be possible to find a routing with an extra connection where the upgrade can be confirmed. Up to you whether that's worth it but IMO it could be.

Beyond that keep in mind that the number of empty seats on a seat map does not equal the number of unsold business class seats -- there could be people who booked through a travel agent or partner airline who don't have seat assignments. So unless a Delta employee has told you, there's no way to know for sure that DL74 has that many more empty seats. (For empty seat counts less than 9, you could find out the exact number from ExpertFlyer.)
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 7:05 am
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Just want to note an incredible amount of GUC availability on TATL in May-Jun.
I was checking Thu-Thu (15/5-17/5) flights from Amsterdam and Paris to DTW, MSP, SEA, PDX, ATL. Almost every single flight had GUC availability, in most cases there were 5-7 seats available for upgrade (up 9). I had about 30 flights that would be ok for me and only 3 of them did not have availability.

On the way back I was checking late May - early Jun (30/5-04/6), SEA - AMS and CDG. Again, all, but 3 flights, had GUC space open and most of them had multiple seats available (3 to 7).

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Old Apr 4, 2018, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by urww
Just want to note an incredible amount of GUC availability on TATL in May-Jun.
I was checking Thu-Thu (15/5-17/5) flights from Amsterdam and Paris to DTW, MSP, SEA, PDX, ATL. Almost every single flight had availability, in most cases there were 5-7 seats available (up 9). I had about 30 flights that would be ok for me and only 3 of them did not have availability.

On the way back I was checking late May - early Jun (30/5-04/6), SEA - AMS and CDG. Again, all, but 3 flights, were open and most of them had multiple seats available (3 to 7).
Just to be clear, (your wording confuses me a bit) you called an agent and asked if there was space. They not only said yes, but told you how many and it was more than 1 or 2? You can't tell by seatmap, nor via EF if upgrade space is available.
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Originally Posted by flyerCO
Just to be clear, (your wording confuses me a bit) you called an agent and asked if there was space. They not only said yes, but told you how many and it was more than 1 or 2?
Yep. Which part of my post confuses you?
I fed an agent flight numbers one by one. She then confirmed whether it was available or not and how many seats were open for GUC upgrade. We both noticed incredible amount of availability and chatted about that for a bit.
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Originally Posted by urww
Yep. Which part of my post confuses you?
I fed an agent flight numbers one by one. She then confirmed whether it was available or not and how many seats were open for GUC upgrade. We both noticed incredible amount of availability and chatted about that for a bit.
The wording about number of seats made me think you were going by seatmap.
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Old Apr 4, 2018, 10:30 am
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Join Date: Dec 2014
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I called today about a separate question and while I had an agent on the phone, I asked about an upgrade that had been waitlisted for the past few months since I booked the trip. Since a few of my GUCs had cleared since then, I was worried that a certificate listed for this upgrade may be closed. A few interesting things came out of the call:

1. The agent told me that the upgrade had already cleared (my reservation online didn't reflect this) and updated my reservation accordingly
2. The agent told me that in the future I need not worry about a closed certificate being listed because the person processing the upgrade will pull any open certificate
3. When actually going in to process the upgrade, the agent told me that the certificate number was missing from the request (so the agent who did it in the first place must have done it incorrectly)

I suppose it's possible that the upgrade cleared recently and was in a queue to be processed and the timing of my call was just a coincident, but I'm wondering if the upgrade never would have cleared as listed (given it was missing a certificate number) and I just happened to call in when there was OY availability.
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