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Using Delta Global Upgrades


DL page: https://www.delta.com/us/en/skymiles/medallion-program/medallion-upgrades
(click or scroll to "Upgrade Certificates Overview" and expand the "Show Additional Details & Terms" sections to see T&C, especially for the specific conditions governing use on partner airlines)

"Global Upgrade Certificates, available exclusively for Diamond Medallion Members, offer upgrades on both international and domestic flights with Delta, and select flights with KLM, Air France, Virgin Atlantic, Virgin Australia, Korean Air and Aeromexico."

Delta offers Diamond Medallion members the benefit of up to 4 Global Upgrade Certificates (GUCs) per year, which each allow a one-way upgrade to business class/Delta One for one person on any route in the Delta network, as well as a limited number of partner flights under specific restricted circumstances described below. 4 GUCs is enough to upgrade the Diamond Medallion member on 2 round trips or 4 one-way trips, or the Diamond Medallion member plus one companion on 1 round trip or 2 one-way trips.

Choosing upgrades as a choice benefit
  • Upgrades are valid one year from the date of issue, usually the day of or day after they are selected in Choice Benefits -- so best to wait as long as possible to select them unless you have a specific use planned for them
  • All Diamond Medallions also receive a Platinum Medallion choice benefit, even if just renewing existing Diamond status in a year, so DMs could for example select 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 4 GUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefit, or 4 RUCs as their Platinum choice benefit and 8 more RUCs as one of their Diamond choice benefits
  • However, it is not possible to select 8 RUCs as one Diamond choice benefit and 4 GUCs as another, nor select 4 GUCs more than once for a single year's Diamond choice benefits -- so the most GUCs anyone can currently earn in a single year is 4
  • You may select your DM benefits at different times, so it is best to select fixed-expiration-date benefits (like gifting status or SkyClub memberships) as soon as possible, but wait until you have a specific use in mind to select upgrades, so that the expiration date is as far into the future as possible. This is especially important if you are waitlisting upgrades for a particular trip, since if the waitlist doesn't clear, a later expiration date will maximize the amount of time you have to try again to use them on a different trip.
  • For status earned based on flying in 2017, upgrades can be selected until the last day that status is valid, January 31, 2019, so they could possibly expire as late as January ~30, 2020 if they are selected as late as possible.
  • Upgrades can be used after you are no longer a Diamond Medallion as long as the upgrades are still valid, though non-DM-line phone agents will be less familiar with them, so they may be harder to use or run a higher risk of being processed incorrectly, so it may be worth booking your GUC flights before your DM status expires if possible.
  • All flights to be upgraded must be flown, not just requested, by the expiration date of the upgrade certificates, though there have been some examples of short extensions offered by phone agents (for example, to the end of the month of the expiration date) as long as the upgrade is able to be confirmed before the certificates expire. In this case it is important to push the agent to make sure the ticket is reissued right away, since it will not be possible to reissue the ticket after the GUC expires. You can tell if the ticket has been reissued because the ticket number on the booking will change from what it was when you originally booked in coach, and the GUC will be marked as "closed" in your wallet on Delta.com.

Finding upgrade space
  • Delta phone agents and the @Delta Twitter account can check for available upgrade space
  • There is no general way to check for available upgrade space online
  • However there is one exception where some flights appear to be able to be checked online: for Delta flights carrying a KLM code -- for example, most flights between the US and Europe -- ExpertFlyer.com (paid membership required) shows KLM upgrade space, and will show upgrade space for those KL-coded, DL-operated flights, which based on anecdotal evidence seems to often (but not always) correspond to upgrade space made available by Delta. This can be a way to check many dates and flights easily, but confirm with Delta that the upgrade space does in fact exist before making firm plans.
  • Upgrade space is not necessarily correlated with award space
  • If upgrade space is not available on your desired flight, you can waitlist, and it is possible the upgrade may clear before departure. If not your name should appear on the upgrade list at the gate. See next section for details.
  • Upgrade space is rarely seen in advance on busy, high-upgrade-demand routes like ATL-JNB and LAX-SYD.

Requesting an upgrade
  • You must call or Tweet at Delta to request an upgrade, they cannot be requested on the website
  • If upgrade space is available, the agent will process the upgrade immediately and you will be able to select business class seats
  • If the upgrade is confirmed in advance, your ticket will be reissued in business class at some point before the flight and you will receive a new itinerary email when this happens; occasionally the ticket does not get reissued and you will not be able to check in, but a quick call to Delta usually fixes this easily
  • Occasionally an email is sent to alert you if a waitlisted upgrade has cleared, but often the best indication is if a segment of your itinerary disappears entirely from Delta.com, which usually means the upgrade has cleared on that segment. Call Delta to have them process it so that it reappears in your itinerary, and you will be able to select business class seats.
  • There have been reports of upgrades coded incorrectly by agents -- unfortunately there is no way to know for sure if your upgrade is coded correctly, and requested upgrades seem to show up a few different ways on Delta.com, sometimes with an "upgrade requested" designation on the flight, and/or with a "phantom" duplicate flight in the seat maps which will not let you select seats
  • If an upgrade has not cleared by check-in time and you do not appear on the upgrade list on the Delta app or Delta.com, call to have an agent correct the upgrade
  • In certain airports where other airlines handle Delta's flights (particularly AMS), it is not officially possible to clear at the gate; KLM does process upgrades at the gate in AMS for certificates waitlisted 24 hours in advance of departure, but this is not an officially guaranteed benefit. To be safe make sure you have your GUC certificate numbers and redemption codes written down in case the KLM agents need this information.
  • If you are connecting, for example flying MCO-ATL-LHR, and upgrade space is not available on ATL-LHR, best practice is to waitlist on the ATL-LHR leg only, so as not to waste a global upgrade on the short MCO-ATL flight, and then add the upgrade request to MCO-ATL when/if ATL-LHR clears; most agents will understand this approach and may even proactively suggest it
  • If you have selected your choice benefits very recently (within the last 24-48 hours), the phone agent may not yet be able to see your upgrade codes, but you can read the codes to the agent from the My Wallet page on Delta.com
  • The priority order of GUCs, RUCs, mileage upgrades, and complimentary upgrades is not 100% clear, but it is known that GUCs and RUCs have higher priority than complimentary upgrades, and that GUCs and RUCs appear to have equal priority. It is listed on Delta.com that GUCs and RUCs clear first by medallion level and then by time of request, which is different from the upgrade priority used for complimentary upgrades (which is also listed on the website)

Other upgrade rules
  • Upgrades are valid on Delta flights on all economy fares except Basic Economy (E)
  • It is possible to request upgrades in one direction of a roundtrip only, for example if you had 4 US-Europe trips planned and only 4 GUCs, you might decide to upgrade the eastbound flights only as they are overnight flights and remain in economy for the westbound flights.
  • On flights operated with a Premium Select cabin, Delta has indicated that it will still be possible to use a GUC to upgrade directly from economy to Premium Select or to Delta One using the same number of GUCs. However, if an upgrade is cleared from economy to Premium Select, the GUC will be considered used, and another GUC would be required to upgrade again to Delta One. The best strategy is probably to waitlist only for Delta One upgrades, and perhaps if the GUC is close to expiring or you don't expect to have another use for it, to add a request for a Premium Select upgrade close to departure if the Delta One upgrade hasn't yet cleared and/or the Delta One seat map looks very full.
  • Upgrades may be used for the SkyMiles member and up to one companion; The companion need not be in the same PNR, but must be traveling on the exact same flight as the GUC holder.
  • Unlike AA and UA upgrades, DL upgrades cannot be gifted to someone whom the SkyMiles member is not traveling with
  • As of January 22, 2018, it is now officially possible to use a certificate for a companion but not for yourself, as long as you are traveling on the same flight as the companion -- for example if you are eligible to buy a business class ticket for business travel and want to bring your spouse by buying an economy ticket and upgrading them. It is not clear if you could upgrade your companion but not yourself. In the past the question has been raised of waiting for a complimentary medallion upgrade for the main member and then using a certificate for the companion, but now that companions for complimentary medallion upgrades are processed at the same priority as the main member, this is no longer a likely concern.

Using upgrades on KLM

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...grade-klm.html
  • "For travel on KLM-operated, Delta-marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by KLM, fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class are eligible to upgrade into Z class. For travel on KLM-operated flights marketed by AF, this certificate may be used to upgrade on published fares booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class into Z class. "
  • NOTE: some of the combinations above are only (relatively) recently eligible for GUCs. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.
  • In the course of processing the upgrade of a Delta-marketed, KLM-operated flight, Delta reissues the KLM flights on KLM flight numbers when they issue the upgrade, but the flights must be bought on DL flight numbers initially (unless buying expensive Y, B, or M fares with KLM)
  • It is not possible to waitlist for upgrade on KLM flights, nor to go to the airport upgrade list, so space must be available in advance in order for the upgrade to clear. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a KLM flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • KLM upgrade space can be checked on ExpertFlyer.com (requires a paid membership). ExpertFlyer also allows users to set alerts for particular fare classes becoming available, which could be useful in lieu of being able to waitlist -- you can set an ExpertFlyer alert for "Z" availability and then call Delta to grab the upgrade if you receive an ExpertFlyer alert that it becomes available.
  • KLM upgrade space on a single segment is different if you search that segment alone vs. if you search a connecting itinerary involving that segment. So if you are looking for KLM upgrades ORD-AMS-JNB, you need to search ORD-JNB in ExpertFlyer to see the true availability; even if there is space on ORD-AMS and AMS-JNB, if it Z space doesn't show up for ORD-JNB you won't be able to upgrade. Unfortunately this means that ExpertFlyer availability alerts, which can only be set on a segment-by-segment basis, are not useful for monitoring KLM upgrade availability on connecting flights.
  • In some cases, adding a DL domestic connecting flight can change KLM upgrade availability. For example ATL-AMS on KLM may show availability but MCO-ATL-AMS may not. Example. Unfortunately some more complex routings, such as forcing an extra connection to find KLM upgrade space (flying JFK-ORD-AMS-CPT instead of JFK-AMS-CPT), do not show up on ExpertFlyer so you are at the mercy of hopefully finding Delta agents who know what they're doing.
  • Bookings with KLM ticket numbers (starting in 074) can be upgraded using the same rules as bookings with Delta ticket numbers (starting in 006). Delta-operated, KLM-coded flights can be upgraded under the same rules as any other KLM-coded flight. Delta-coded, Delta-operated flights booked on a KLM ticket number can be upgraded the same as if they were booked on a Delta ticket number, so in any fare class other than E.
  • There have been numerous challenges with KLM upgrades, so be careful, be persistent, and make sure you request the upgrade within the no-risk cancellation window of the ticket so you can cancel if it doesn't work as expected.
  • More KLM upgrade reading: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6

Using upgrades on Virgin Atlantic

3-year-old thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1779666-guc-now-able-used-virgin-atlantic-vs.html
related, upgrading VS with SkyMiles (also requires G class, so the info may be useful too?): https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta-air-lines-skymiles/1857464-definitive-thread-use-sky-miles-upgrade-vs.html
  • "Valid on Delta-marketed (DL flight number), Virgin Atlantic-operated flights for use globally on published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class to G class (Upper Class). " Upgrading on Virgin-marketed (VS flight number) flights using GUCs is not possible.
  • Global Upgrades on Virgin Atlantic flights must be confirmed 24 hours prior to departure.
  • Global Upgrade Certificates may not be used to waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic-operated flight. Many agents will offer to put you on the waitlist, but putting you on the upgrade waitlist for a Virgin Atlantic flight will simply never clear so you're better off monitoring it yourself (see next bullets).
  • DL flight numbers are not available for most Virgin Atlantic flights to regions other than the US (for example LHR-JNB), so it is not possible to use GUCs on those flights.
  • Virgin Atlantic upgrade space appears to use the same availability as awards, so if a business class award is available for a Virgin Atlantic flight on Delta.com, it should be available for an upgrade (as long as that flight is booked on a DL flight number). If an award is not available, an upgrade is probably not available -- but if you notice any exceptions to this rule please share in the thread. You can also monitor G space using ExpertFlyer (see KLM section above).
  • Because G is the same code as Virgin Atlantic uses for award tickets, after you fly the tickets will register with Delta as having been awards and will not earn any miles. Watch your mileage earning carefully and you will likely have to call Delta and explain that it wasn't an award ticket but an upgrade from a paid coach ticket, and they will correct the mileage earning to be equivalent to what you would have earned on your original coach ticket.

Using upgrades on Virgin Australia

Valid on Delta-marketed, Virgin Australia-operated flights on published fares booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U class to Virgin Australia’s Business Class.

Using upgrades on Air France

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...20-onward.html

"For travel on Air France-operated flights marketed by Air France and booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class, customers can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by KLM, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, K, H, L, Q, T, N, R, or V class can upgrade into Z class (Business Class). For Air France-operated flights marketed by Delta, customers with a published fare booked in Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class can upgrade into A class (Premium Economy) or Z class (Business Class). In addition, customers traveling on an Air France-marketed and operated flight and booked in W, S or A class as well as customers traveling on an Air France-operated, Delta-marketed flight and booked in P, A, or G class can upgrade to Z class (Business Class)"

NOTE: GUC usage on AF used to be restricted to high fare classes only. Phone agents may not be familiar with the new rules, and may need to be gently pointed in the direction of the DL T&C on their own website.

Using upgrades on Korean (restricted to certain fare classes only)

Dedicated thread: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delt...ed-thread.html

"Valid on Delta-marketed, Korean Air-operated flights for use globally on Delta's published fares booked in Y or B class to Korean Air's Z class, or booked in M class to Korean Air's O class."

GUC usage on Korean requires the purchase of high fare classes, which may mean that it is cheaper to buy a discounted business class ticket than to buy an eligible coach fare and try to upgrade. Uniquely, it is possible to use GUCs to upgrade from business to first on Korean, but only if you buy the most expensive business class fares.

Using upgrades on Aeromexico

"For travel on Aeromexico operated, Delta marketed flights this certificate may be used to upgrade on Delta`s published fares booked in W, Y, B, M, H, Q, K, L, U, T, X or V class and all fare classes upgrade into Aeromexico`s O class."




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Old Oct 18, 2017, 6:17 am
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Concern and Succes

This is concerning:

"One Upgrade Certificate can put you on a single waitlist or multiple waitlists – from a specific cabin on a particular flight to multiple cabins on multiple flights. But, your upgrade will only clear off of ONE waitlist and will be based on the FIRST seat that becomes available across all of the waitlists the Certificate is listed on.

For example, if you are waitlisted on DTW-NRT and also JFK-LAX with one certificate, if a seat becomes available on the DTW-NRT flight you will be upgraded on that flight and you will no longer be waitlisted on the JFK-LAX flight as the certificate has been used."

This seems to contradict practice. Normally, if your main leg clears, it still would allow you to waitlist or apply the certificate to the remainder of the ticket. The wording above implies if waitlisted, and the waitlisted upgrade clears, the certificate is used even for the remainder of the segments that didn't clear. While in practice you may be able to call in and clear or re-waitlist, if not able to apply to other segments once the desired one clears, would signify a major downgrade in the certificate (beyond the ridiclous amount of effort it takes at times to use now). I am waitlisted ATL-AMS on 12/1, so if/when that clears will advise what happens after.

As for success, though it took over 3 hours to get cleared, I was able to easily locate and then upgrade on a KLM flight. Will be trying the 787-900 from AMS-MSP on December 10th. Did take multiple agents to get done, but the guy persisted and accomplished it. By doing so, earned a JWD. A bit sad, it is easier to find and use the certs on a partner then Delta's own metal.
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 6:57 am
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The example quoted has to be two separate tickets (at least I can't think of any logical way to fly JFK-LAX and DTW-NRT in a single direction on one PNR.) So my best guess is the point of that example is that you can waitlist a single GUC on multiple tickets, but as soon as it clears on one of them, it's no longer applied to the others, which makes sense. I don't think it's referring to a case like having a GUC clearing on the first leg of a DTW-NRT-SIN itinerary.
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Old Oct 18, 2017, 7:34 am
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Originally Posted by LoganFlyer
The example quoted has to be two separate tickets (at least I can't think of any logical way to fly JFK-LAX and DTW-NRT in a single direction on one PNR.) So my best guess is the point of that example is that you can waitlist a single GUC on multiple tickets, but as soon as it clears on one of them, it's no longer applied to the others, which makes sense. I don't think it's referring to a case like having a GUC clearing on the first leg of a DTW-NRT-SIN itinerary.
That does make sense. Thank you for utilzing logic in the early hours of the day.
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Old Oct 20, 2017, 7:28 pm
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Yay!

Best possible use of GUC's?

Booked mid June

DCA-NRT-SIN - Oct 12

DTW-NRT Didn't clear until gate. I ended up being 1/9 on the UG list - all 9 ended up clearing (I think) on the flight.

Random data point: I was 1/9 on the UG list - on a U fare, again booked in June, GUC applied in June. I do have a Amex Reserve. Seem strange being so high on the list?


Cleared NRT-SIN a couple weeks after booking (didn't think I'd get a better use of the cert before it would expire, so applied to both Itl segments).


SIN-NRT-DCA - Oct 16

SIN-NRT - cleared couple weeks after booking

NRT-DTW - cleared on Oct 12. Note, the UG list at the gate had 4 seats left but 12 on the list... Feel sorry for anyone who didn't clear on this route.

DTW-DCA - Had the most awful time changing the connection to an earlier one.

First 2-3 agents said no, can't be done.

Finally someone changed it for me. Then they refused to apply the GUC I'd already used to waitlist me on the new flight. This was impossible for 45 minutes, then a good agent applied it no problem and I cleared. Gave that agent a JWD cert.

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Old Oct 21, 2017, 3:11 am
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Example - Book LAX-AMS-JNB. Stop in AMS for one month. As long as fare allows stopovers, only need 1 GUC. If however fare doesn't allow stopovers then the fare breaks at AMS and need 2 GUC.
That's what I wanted to do. The problem I couldn't get it booked with DL flight numbers. Though there are DL fares for LAX-JNB/CPT with routing via Europe that allow a stopover they are not bookable. I tried to book via delta.com, OTA, Diamond line (escalated to a supervisor) an old school agent (who really did her best). They can easily book an itinerary with KL flight numbers (with 2 stopovers), but not DL flight numbers.

flyerCO, did you manage to get it worked?
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Old Oct 21, 2017, 4:49 am
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Originally Posted by urww
That's what I wanted to do. The problem I couldn't get it booked with DL flight numbers. Though there are DL fares for LAX-JNB/CPT with routing via Europe that allow a stopover they are not bookable. I tried to book via delta.com, OTA, Diamond line (escalated to a supervisor) an old school agent (who really did her best). They can easily book an itinerary with KL flight numbers (with 2 stopovers), but not DL flight numbers.

flyerCO, did you manage to get it worked?
Last time was before recent changes to the terms. As for the codeshare issue, the number exists, but isnt always loaded as active. In my case I don't know how but they got the DL codeshare for AMS-JNB to book even though not showing active for that day.
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Was able to upgrade using a certificate from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam flight KL 812 on 10-21. I wait listed the certificate for AMS-SLC for my flight on 10-22 but KLM had to pull me off the upgrade waitlist before they could check me in for the Salt Lake flight this morning.

A side note 40,000 miles are needed to do a day of departure upgrade from AMS-KUL.
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Old Oct 22, 2017, 4:15 am
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Originally Posted by jztelemark
Was able to upgrade using a certificate from Kuala Lumpur to Amsterdam flight KL 812 on 10-21. I wait listed the certificate for AMS-SLC for my flight on 10-22 but KLM had to pull me off the upgrade waitlist before they could check me in for the Salt Lake flight this morning.

A side note 40,000 miles are needed to do a day of departure upgrade from AMS-KUL.
I think 40,000 miles might be a better option than burning a certificate.
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Old Oct 22, 2017, 1:36 pm
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Quick question in my own thread!

Departing LHR nonstop to the USA, if you buy a Y ticket, and use a GUC to UG <assuming that it clears at booking>, do they hit you for that outrageous GREEN tax, or LUXURY tax <or whatever they call it> on long haul J flights?

I've only departed LHR once since GUCs started, and I connected at CDG to the USA.

Thanx in advance for not making me search!
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Originally Posted by davetravels
Quick question in my own thread!

Departing LHR nonstop to the USA, if you buy a Y ticket, and use a GUC to UG <assuming that it clears at booking>, do they hit you for that outrageous GREEN tax, or LUXURY tax <or whatever they call it> on long haul J flights?

I've only departed LHR once since GUCs started, and I connected at CDG to the USA.

Thanx in advance for not making me search!
They do, unfortunately (and it's called the APD). Comes out to roughly $100 pp.
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Old Oct 22, 2017, 8:41 pm
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They do, unfortunately (and it's called the APD). Comes out to roughly $100 pp.
I was thinking it's closer to $200, so I searched and found this, which makes it about $195. Did I miss something?

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...passenger-duty
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Old Oct 23, 2017, 6:36 pm
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Is there just a vent page? Hard to watch seats disappear in chunks with no clarity on why. one day 5 people suddenly buy, then another 3? I guess I can understand business groups but it is hard not to think GUC's are clearing while one sits waitlisted and not knowing if it is properly coded. If only they could have the IT to display our current position on the list and advise inventory on a flight....

FYI - I do know if one truly WD1BD1 - still as beaten dead as it is, still frustrating to be given a piece of candy then told you can only enjoy it if we think enough others won't spend their money on it. If they do, you have to wait and see if you can eat it in the future (and by the way they expire after a year).
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Old Oct 24, 2017, 12:00 am
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SEA-HKG 12/30 arriving into Hong Kong on NYE 4 hours before midnight. (Hopefully no delays!)

Booked the tickets when Platinum back in March/April.

Called PM line back in August and the agent said there were a lot of UGs available but wouldn’t tell me specifically how many. Then I get the GUCs in late September when I get DM and immediately call to apply them. Am told there is no space available and waitlist only. We agree to watist.

GUCs just cleared tonight 10/23 for both of us. 66 days till the flight. All we did is call once two weeks ago to ask about space and was told there was none.

Very happy we got the GUCs to work! Pretty great feeling getting the choice benefit to work
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Old Oct 24, 2017, 3:04 am
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Originally Posted by davetravels
I was thinking it's closer to $200, so I searched and found this, which makes it about $195. Did I miss something?

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...passenger-duty
Nope, you didn't, but keep in mind the economy class APD (£75) is bundled into your base ticket price already. So when you upgrade using a GUC you're just paying the difference in APD of the additional £75.
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Old Oct 26, 2017, 11:11 pm
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Sadly another issue is becoming evident as I am using my certs these years on flights with multiple legs. In past years I redeemed mostly on single leg flights.

Example:
SFO-JFK-CDG

Let's see I wait-list JFK-CDG and suppose it does not clear until the gate.

If I wanted to apply a RUC for SFO-JFK and it is available (or at the gate), they will reissue the entire ticket. Per call with agent, this means that the timestamp on the GUC for JFK-CDG resets.

Reset of timestamp = lower change of upgrade & perhaps less preferable seats if it does clear (i.e. middle D1 seats vs. window).

Not sure what can be done, but I guess I'll have to keep this in mind on future redemption.
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