What date will AS and DL announce that their partnership will end?
Dec 16, 2013, 11:02 pm
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Well after Delta & AS signed an exclusive agreement for feeding the long-haul flights, AS used this as a benchmark to sign a similar agreement with AA covering routes ex-LAX.
AS then started adding flights to ATL, SLC , and MSP.
Then AS allowed FFers to get full miles on BA, QF, KE, and CX.
Now, we see 6 additional routes from SLC.
In other words, it seems AS hasn't been true to the Delta cause in SEA.
They favor an open relationship with all partners esp AA.
AS then started adding flights to ATL, SLC , and MSP.
Then AS allowed FFers to get full miles on BA, QF, KE, and CX.
Now, we see 6 additional routes from SLC.
In other words, it seems AS hasn't been true to the Delta cause in SEA.
They favor an open relationship with all partners esp AA.
Dec 17, 2013, 12:06 am
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I would say no earlier than Dec 31, 2015.
Alaska has cause to be careful here. Make no mistake about it; Delta is building its own hub in SEA. Break the partnership agreement and Delta has every incentive to break the Alaska monopoly on year-round Alaska-Lower 48 service and start up year round service to at least ANC, FAI and JNU. One of the main reasons Alaska is so profitable isn't that they fly routes like LAX-PVR or SFO-PSP -- it's that they have a stranglehold on year round service to the lower 48 and what amounts to a monopoly on service within Alaska. It would not take all that much for a carrier the size of Delta to throw some airplanes into the big intra-Alaska routes and establish some competition there as well.
Alaska has cause to be careful here. Make no mistake about it; Delta is building its own hub in SEA. Break the partnership agreement and Delta has every incentive to break the Alaska monopoly on year-round Alaska-Lower 48 service and start up year round service to at least ANC, FAI and JNU. One of the main reasons Alaska is so profitable isn't that they fly routes like LAX-PVR or SFO-PSP -- it's that they have a stranglehold on year round service to the lower 48 and what amounts to a monopoly on service within Alaska. It would not take all that much for a carrier the size of Delta to throw some airplanes into the big intra-Alaska routes and establish some competition there as well.
Dec 17, 2013, 8:27 am
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I would say no earlier than Dec 31, 2015.
Alaska has cause to be careful here. Make no mistake about it; Delta is building its own hub in SEA. Break the partnership agreement and Delta has every incentive to break the Alaska monopoly on year-round Alaska-Lower 48 service and start up year round service to at least ANC, FAI and JNU. One of the main reasons Alaska is so profitable isn't that they fly routes like LAX-PVR or SFO-PSP -- it's that they have a stranglehold on year round service to the lower 48 and what amounts to a monopoly on service within Alaska. It would not take all that much for a carrier the size of Delta to throw some airplanes into the big intra-Alaska routes and establish some competition there as well.
Alaska has cause to be careful here. Make no mistake about it; Delta is building its own hub in SEA. Break the partnership agreement and Delta has every incentive to break the Alaska monopoly on year-round Alaska-Lower 48 service and start up year round service to at least ANC, FAI and JNU. One of the main reasons Alaska is so profitable isn't that they fly routes like LAX-PVR or SFO-PSP -- it's that they have a stranglehold on year round service to the lower 48 and what amounts to a monopoly on service within Alaska. It would not take all that much for a carrier the size of Delta to throw some airplanes into the big intra-Alaska routes and establish some competition there as well.
Dec 17, 2013, 9:39 am
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I agree! I live in YVR and it will be interesting to see what their extra service does to the fares, fleets, and times for competition flights. While some fares are posted now, they're more expensive than AS. Personally, I'd rather build up miles on AS than Delta.
AS is really taking it all ways, especially with the potential hike of minimum wage in SEATAC city.
AS is really taking it all ways, especially with the potential hike of minimum wage in SEATAC city.
I so wish you were right. But I think you misunderstand the meaning of DL attacking Alaska's bread-and-butter routes from SEA such as SFO, LAX, LAS, SAN, YVR, FAI, and PDX. Any single one of these routes would have been a punch in the gut to AS. ALL of them is a declaration of war.
Dec 17, 2013, 12:31 pm
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I don't think that's year round. ANC-SEA today per flightaware consists of 13 flights -- 11 AS and 2 UA. Like I said, AS has a stranglehold on the year round market to the lower 48. The UA flights, frankly, surprised me. I didn't know they existed.
Dec 18, 2013, 10:58 pm
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There's an interesting discussion/blog posts happening over on upgrd.com about Alaska the the possibility of joining an Alliance. I think Rocky aka DoubleWidesFly has a better idea of what is happening then his counter park Matt on Live & lets fly, but both are good articles to read.
Matt's post: Star Alliance should Persue Alaska Air
Rocky's Rebuttle: Alaska Airlines: StarAlliance No - OneWorld maybe
Clearly if AA did go after an alliance membership their end date would be a lot earlier with DL than what any of us could guess
Matt's post: Star Alliance should Persue Alaska Air
Rocky's Rebuttle: Alaska Airlines: StarAlliance No - OneWorld maybe
Clearly if AA did go after an alliance membership their end date would be a lot earlier with DL than what any of us could guess
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Dec 19, 2013, 6:32 am
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There's an interesting discussion/blog posts happening over on upgrd.com about Alaska the the possibility of joining an Alliance. I think Rocky aka DoubleWidesFly has a better idea of what is happening then his counter park Matt on Live & lets fly, but both are good articles to read.
Matt's post: Star Alliance should Persue Alaska Air
Rocky's Rebuttle: [URL="http://bit.ly/1dnC5PH"]Alaska Airlines: StarAlliance No - OneWorld maybe[/URL
Clearly if AA did go after an alliance membership their end date would be a lot earlier with DL than what any of us could guess
Matt's post: Star Alliance should Persue Alaska Air
Rocky's Rebuttle: [URL="http://bit.ly/1dnC5PH"]Alaska Airlines: StarAlliance No - OneWorld maybe[/URL
Clearly if AA did go after an alliance membership their end date would be a lot earlier with DL than what any of us could guess
JetBlue and SouthWest are doing fine without. So can AS.
Dec 19, 2013, 8:24 am
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is more clearly about what Alaska should do and is more to point out that Alaska doesn't need to join an alliance...
Dec 19, 2013, 8:28 am
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