My apologies....In this case, DL employees are not be truthful......The only current ATC Staffing issues are flights going thru JX center...

DMPM,

Nobody is disputing the fact that the 'listed reason' is wind.

However, here are the METARs for today:

The first Ground Stop for the day at LGA occurred after 7AM when the wind was essentially calm. Even as the day went along, there is nothing particularly eye catching about the wind. I can tell you that it is well below the HW/XW limits of the commercial aircraft operating there and it's conducive to a Land 4/Depart 13 operation at LGA.

Within the past hour EWR went into Ground Stop for winds and the winds out of the northeast are right down the runway for EWR which generally has problems when winds are out of the NW.


BTW, Charlotte (CLT) just went into a Ground Delay Program for staffing.

Current status

Delays by Destination:

Due to OTHER / STAFFING, departure traffic destined to Charlotte Douglas International Airport, Charlotte, NC (CLT) is currently experiencing delays averaging 17 minutes.

Due to RWY-TAXI / MAINTENANCE, departure traffic destined to John F Kennedy International Airport, New York, NY (JFK) is currently experiencing delays averaging 1 hour and 41 minutes.

Due to WEATHER / WIND, departure traffic destined to La Guardia Airport, New York, NY (LGA) is currently experiencing delays averaging 1 hour and 43 minutes.

Due to RWY-TAXI / MAINTENANCE, departure traffic destined to John F Kennedy International Airport, New York, NY (JFK) will not be allowed to depart until at or after 3:00 pm EDT.

On flight 1895 PHL-ATL right now. Pilot said that due to less staffing ATC has us in a hold, expected to arrive late by about 15 minutes. Not sure how true the reasoning is.

It's a nice, sunny day at LGA - temp's around 50 degree F, wind at 20 MPH, gust to 30 MPH at times - must be :rolleyes: :mad: some sort of hidden wind shear that we don't know anything about, if you believe in that at all.

I supposed that with so many regional jets being flown these days, they are more prone to the slightest wind gust, and the poor turboprops ...

I agree with you Down3Green about the "stated" reason for delay in LGA. The airlines are at the mercy of ATC who are going make a point and impact as many customers as possible. Honestly, will we ever know if ATC is telling the truth on these delays..

Looks like we'll get to try out JFK first hand this Saturday. Flying thru JFK on the way to BCN. Back thru on May 5. I have a feeling that my 90 minute connect in JFK on the way back is probably not going to work.

Mandatory OT comment: Except for the true value of SkyPesos and the disgraceful Award Calendar.

Same with my RDU-LGA flight last evening. The pilots said ATC staffing many, many times.

Seems like DL could start selectively cancelling lightly booked "out and back" flights (hub to out station and back to hub), thereby keeping the planes and crews in position and taking a couple of flights out of the overloaded ATC system. Since DL can always blame ATC, in that case they would have zero responsibility to do anything for the stranded passengers other than leave them stuck on standby until there happen to be open seats on a later flight.

DL certainly can benefit in being dishonest to customers in some circumstances. This would appear to be one of them.

How are we going to tell whether anyone is telling the truth?:D

a) FAA wants to ramp up anxiety about how there is going to be an absolute catastrophe since they did not get their budget increase... so they hype how bad it is going to be.

b) Given a), why would they then try to blame the delays on weather, rather than on the furlough? Unless, they want to cover themselves with a more innocuous excuse while, all the time, they still hope that we will really suspect that it is due to the furlough.

c) DL management (to their credit) are trying to ramp up the pressure on the FAA, so why wouldn't they seek to convince the PAX that the delays are not weather-related, as claimed by the FAA, but really furlough-related?

And, if you are sitting at LGA, unless you are a meteorological and/or air transportation expert, you can only observe that it is a bit breezy outdoors, without being able to say that it is too breezy.

Hopefully, this has stimulated all of the conspiracy theorists, and my popcorn doesn't get cold before I get back to it. :D:D:D

Let's just hope that, like the earlier forewarnings of sequester-related Armageddon, this one will also turn out to be more hype than harm... and the doomsday prophets inside the Beltway will have overplayed their hand once again.

Actually, it might work. If departures are delayed your connection might be longer than 90 minutes, as I suspect international arrivals will be cleared much sooner than domestic arrivals, assuming arrivals are delayed.

You are absolutely correct. This mess is affecting both arrivals and departures. It will be interesting to see how that works out.:rolleyes:

LAX... Average delays of nearly 2 hours, maximum delays of nearly 4 hours.

LAX, OTHER / OTHER, Ave 111.0 minutes, Max 225 minutes, From 6:30 PM Apr 22 to 12:59 AM Apr 23, Active

Impact of FAA furloughs on DL operations
 

SLC had about 15 min inbound delays today. Captain told us it was holding due to runway closure due to ATC staffing. My outbound was on time.