Skymiles rules changes for 2013 are here (at delta.com updates, details inside)
Jan 16, 2013, 10:26 am
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Both. "Members must also meet the existing Medallion Qualification Miles (MQMs) or Medallion Qualification Segments (MQSs) qualification criteria." underline added
Jan 16, 2013, 10:28 am
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So if rollover is still happening....
If I have 51,000 MQMs in 2014 but only spend enough to meet the silver threshold, what gets rolled over? 1,000? 26,000?
If I have 51,000 MQMs in 2014 but only spend enough to meet the silver threshold, what gets rolled over? 1,000? 26,000?
Jan 16, 2013, 10:30 am
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Guess I will delay my international J travel until at least 1 Mar.
Jan 16, 2013, 10:31 am
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Either way: I want to know these program changes ASAP as I was planning to spend $$$ on airfare this year. I already have planned (but not bought) several transoceanic trips. Perhaps I should give UA a hard look if DL is going to devalue Skymiles into hell...FO status or not.
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Jan 16, 2013, 10:31 am
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I like the F-J as I occasionally buy those and the 200% is a nice bump.
And, if RDM earning isn't affected as they state, this will only hurt folks who:
a) use MRs for Medallion status
and
b) don't fly much otherwise (by the spend requirement)
Personally, that sounds reasonable to me. :shrugs:
Jan 16, 2013, 10:31 am
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Funny, the page on Delta.com is gone now....
Jan 16, 2013, 10:31 am
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Alternatively, Delta SkyMiles Credit Cardmembers can be waived from the new Medallion Qualification Dollars (MQDs) requirement if they make at least $25,000 in Eligible Purchases within the calendar year.
Jan 16, 2013, 10:35 am
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Hopefully with 50% M bonus going away M fares will come down a bit?
I know - just dreaming.
This also answers the question about how AMEX will tie in ti the new Skymiles.
I know - just dreaming.
This also answers the question about how AMEX will tie in ti the new Skymiles.
Jan 16, 2013, 10:35 am
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Jan 16, 2013, 10:37 am
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I think it's totally reasonable that there is a spend threshold. Not sure these are the right ones, but more importantly is delta.dumb going to start showing us our MQD's? Or will this require even more calls jamming up the Fake Chisholm line?
Jan 16, 2013, 10:38 am
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That one is strange, it's not like M fares are cheap. Then again I was pretty sure LUT fares would drop to 50% so EQM maybe they got cold feet and punished the higher M spenders to make up for that?
I think it's totally reasonable that there is a spend threshold. Not sure these are the right ones, but more importantly is delta.dumb going to start showing us our MQD's? Or will this require even more calls jamming up the Fake Chisholm line?
I think it's totally reasonable that there is a spend threshold. Not sure these are the right ones, but more importantly is delta.dumb going to start showing us our MQD's? Or will this require even more calls jamming up the Fake Chisholm line?
Jan 16, 2013, 10:42 am
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This kills the one thing that probably bothered Delta the most. MR's.
I don't think it's so crazy.
I'm curious what will happen to those of us residing outside the USA. Are we simply exempt from MQD requirements? The original language seemed to imply this.
I don't think it's so crazy.
I'm curious what will happen to those of us residing outside the USA. Are we simply exempt from MQD requirements? The original language seemed to imply this.
Jan 16, 2013, 10:42 am
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Seems too that the minimum spend threshold of $25,000 can be met with any SM CC, so using the Gold, Plat, or Reserve? I assume the MQM thresholds will remain in place for the Plat and Reserve cards as well.
Jan 16, 2013, 10:42 am
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Yeah, my personal spend on Delta last year was around $9,000 USD, and so if the thresholds are correct, I'd have still made PM if these were in effect last year. (My guess is they looked at avg. spend per Medallion level and set the threshold appropriately). This doesn't appear to negatively effect those who actually fly on "normal" fares (7-10cpm).
I like the F-J as I occasionally buy those and the 200% is a nice bump.
And, if RDM earning isn't affected as they state, this will only hurt folks who:
a) use MRs for Medallion status
and
b) don't fly much otherwise (by the spend requirement)
Personally, that sounds reasonable to me. :shrugs:
I like the F-J as I occasionally buy those and the 200% is a nice bump.
And, if RDM earning isn't affected as they state, this will only hurt folks who:
a) use MRs for Medallion status
and
b) don't fly much otherwise (by the spend requirement)
Personally, that sounds reasonable to me. :shrugs:
And I'm curious what will qualify for the MQDs. Would these be restricted solely to DL-operated flights, or would DL-marketed flights qualify too? At the very least, I would hope that they would include flying with JV partners on JV routes - given the metal neutrality of the JV, it would seem silly to penalize someone for flying AF from JFK to Paris, rather than DL.