***NEW***Baggage rules January 2013 Postponed
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US beat DL to this by several months. There are some complications from DOT rules on baggage fees that are somewhat driving this.
I suspect that UA and AA will follow in short order.
I suspect that UA and AA will follow in short order.
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How true.
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It does. It is often impossible to book some flights or airlines together with others, as the ticketing source can not ticket one of the airlines one is flying, or for example it's an award ticket where there is N/A for some connecting flight that is then a separate revenue ticket. There are a lot of examples where there is no option but as two separate tickets. Having to go out, clear immigration, pick up bags, recheck, clear immigration again and clear security is a major hassle. It also makes some connections impossible, such as at places like SVO where a visa is required to exit to the baggage claim. So, for example, this will make a connection now from DL to an SU international flight at SVO impossible, where one could be booked as an award and other couldn't be and has to be a revenue ticket, just to use one example (of countless many).
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Lot of times you can't book a single ticket, e.g. booking on the DL website. This will be a killer for making connections because of TSA and especially on international where it means going through immigration once and sometimes twice.
Ridiculous!
Ridiculous!
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wow - so if I fly DL over the pond and then by a sky team ticket - speparate to make a conection I have to collect my bags - go out and back through security internationaly - That SUCKS
Seems this is a journey logic issue to push higher fares
Seems this is a journey logic issue to push higher fares
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If you have multi tickets you will need to pick up bags and recheck them on the next airline.
Multi airlines on one ticket, bag checked to final destination.
All airlines will eventually change thier policies to match HA and DL due to new DOT rules enacted this year.
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These will just drive a lot of booking to 3rd-party agencies and even the actual flying to other airlines.
In the near term, people can purchase tickets 11-12 months in advance but they're only giving 2.5 month notice of the change. How many misconnects will result from people have to exit security, reclaim their luggage, and check in again? How many customers will be subjected to a shakedown for rebookings at last-minute walkup fares? In overseas airports this will also result in extra trips through passport control & customs.
Most travelers will never be affected by this, but for those that are, it will be a major hassle.
In the near term, people can purchase tickets 11-12 months in advance but they're only giving 2.5 month notice of the change. How many misconnects will result from people have to exit security, reclaim their luggage, and check in again? How many customers will be subjected to a shakedown for rebookings at last-minute walkup fares? In overseas airports this will also result in extra trips through passport control & customs.
Most travelers will never be affected by this, but for those that are, it will be a major hassle.
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Minneapolis-Paris, Paris-Dubai, Dubai-Islamabad
... someone will still be forced to play the exit-claim-luggage-and-check-in game in Paris or Dubai?
When the announcement cited here refers to "ticket", is it referring to a PNR or to each separate ticket # within a PNR? If the latter, it's even more Draconian that one would think at first glance.
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Hawaiian Airlines already put this rule into effect this past summer.
If you have multi tickets you will need to pick up bags and recheck them on the next airline.
Multi airlines on one ticket, bag checked to final destination.
All airlines will eventually change thier policies to match HA and DL due to new DOT rules enacted this year.
If you have multi tickets you will need to pick up bags and recheck them on the next airline.
Multi airlines on one ticket, bag checked to final destination.
All airlines will eventually change thier policies to match HA and DL due to new DOT rules enacted this year.
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I do give DL some credit for giving more notification about these rules than AC and not leaving us to find changes on their website.
(Although AC's website is easier to use and doesn't stalk you like DL.dumb)
(Although AC's website is easier to use and doesn't stalk you like DL.dumb)
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What notice of the changes has DL given to its customers? We only know about this because it was posted on FT by someone who is not a DL employee AFAIK.