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amolkold Jul 25, 2012 6:05 am

If you really want to fly JFK-IST nonstop, Turkish Airlines is matching DL statuses. GM and higher matches to TK Elite, which is Star Alliance Gold.


Originally Posted by mizzou miles (Post 18997881)
Indeed. I just flew the AZ 777 from FCO to JFK in J. I would say it is probably the BEST J experience out there right now aside from CX/SQ. Light years above AF/KL/DL. Fantastic seats, great food - served in real courses. Service was top-notch.

The lounge in FCO was a dump but that isnt a big part of the experience for me.

By all means, give AZ a try.

I haven't seen the new 777 J, but did see a very extensive TR on the new J on the A330 (similar). It looks spectacular.

TrojanTraveler Jul 25, 2012 6:09 am


Originally Posted by mtkeller (Post 18994446)
Actually, I think that AZ is well beyond "some" for their flat bed modifications. It appears that they've got them all done now or maybe there's still one ghetto AP A330 out there, but it will be gone soon. Even the 777s have been updated now!

This is good to know, as there was a big difference between the products. My mother-in-law flew JFK-FCO-JFK in May on the flat beds and said it was great. And that the service was quite good.

TrojanTraveler Jul 25, 2012 6:10 am


Originally Posted by ceamus1 (Post 18994396)
I am on DL72 JFK-IST on Nov 20 and the return DL73 on Nov 25.

Currently, @DeltaAssist says the flight is still operational, but there is no availability.

I have my alternative preferences ready to go though.

I was also on 72 on 11/25, and I assure you it is gone unfortunately.

MR_MAMA Jul 25, 2012 6:13 am


Originally Posted by RobertS975 (Post 18996144)
The DL seat map application will not display the seat map for DL 72 on 11/20. It has nothing to do with being sold out. It further indicates the flight is going to disappear.

http://www.benedelman.org/travel/dlseats/

I have an assigned seat in DL72 on 11/23, have had it for months, no changes. And can still pull up my seat map

pgh234 Jul 25, 2012 6:20 am

I just booked 72/73 a few days before they cancelled it. Anyone have a guess when we will be rebooked? I'd like to see what alternative routing they give me before I call.

TrojanTraveler Jul 25, 2012 6:21 am


Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 18998053)
I have an assigned seat in DL72 on 11/23, have had it for months, no changes. And can still pull up my seat map

I could still pull up my seat map as well after they dropped the flight, and could still see those seats until I was rerouted.

MR_MAMA Jul 25, 2012 6:24 am


Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler (Post 18998095)
I could still pull up my seat map as well after they dropped the flight, and could still see those seats until I was rerouted.

Crap, this will not make me happy. I would probably cancel my trip? Just looked at buying a new ticket, nothing non-stop coming up. :(

TrojanTraveler Jul 25, 2012 6:31 am


Originally Posted by MR_MAMA (Post 18998114)
Crap, this will not make me happy. I would probably cancel my trip? Just looked at buying a new ticket, nothing non-stop coming up. :(

Since it's just for the weekend, I would have cancelled as well, but have a friend coming up from NBO to meet there. Note that they should give you your money back with no penalties.

Dieuwer Jul 25, 2012 6:47 am


Originally Posted by amolkold (Post 18998026)
If you really want to fly JFK-IST nonstop, Turkish Airlines is matching DL statuses. GM and higher matches to TK Elite, which is Star Alliance Gold.

...and pay more than double for J what DL charges.

InVinoVeritas2012 Jul 25, 2012 6:55 am

Long time listener, first time caller. Given the large decrease in the need for the 76/77 fleet due to European contraction and dropping HKG - what happens to theselanes? Are they parked or redeployed domestically? There is only so much maintenance to do...

RobertS975 Jul 25, 2012 7:03 am


Originally Posted by mizzou miles (Post 18997881)
Indeed. I just flew the AZ 777 from FCO to JFK in J. I would say it is probably the BEST J experience out there right now aside from CX/SQ. Light years above AF/KL/DL. Fantastic seats, great food - served in real courses. Service was top-notch.

The lounge in FCO was a dump but that isnt a big part of the experience for me.

By all means, give AZ a try.

As a rule of thumb, I would far prefer to buy DL coded flights when flying on AF,KL or AZ for the simple reason that if I have to cancel for any reason, the residual value will live on as a Delta credit which will certainly be put to use rather than a credit on an airline that I might have to go out of my way to utilize before it expires. But an even stronger desire is to stay on DL metal as much as I can... as a DM, I get generous baggage allocation even in coach, and I do not have to be concerned that some agent is going to tell me that my standard US roll aboard is "too big."

redrobster Jul 25, 2012 8:59 am

Well this stinks. I'm booked on JFK-IST-JFK on Nov 21-25. The return options on the 25th are terrible with everything leaving early morning.

Dieuwer Jul 25, 2012 9:02 am


Originally Posted by redrobster (Post 18998899)
Well this stinks. I'm booked on JFK-IST-JFK on Nov 21-25. The return options on the 25th are terrible with everything leaving early morning.

Cancel and rebook on TK?

TrojanTraveler Jul 25, 2012 9:06 am


Originally Posted by redrobster (Post 18998899)
Well this stinks. I'm booked on JFK-IST-JFK on Nov 21-25. The return options on the 25th are terrible with everything leaving early morning.

Was on the same itin. Plus now you get in hours later on arrival. It basically gives you Thursday evening, Friday and Satuday, with miminal sleep time on Saturday night (unless you take the 3pm or so AF flight on Sunday, getting into JFK around 9pm). TK is indeed available, and yesterday was selling for a bit under $700.

Dieuwer Jul 25, 2012 9:08 am


Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler (Post 18998950)
Was on the same itin. Plus now you get in hours later on arrival. It basically gives you Thursday evening, Friday and Satuday, with miminal sleep time on Saturday night (unless you take the 3pm or so AF flight on Sunday, getting into JFK around 9pm).

It almost feels like Skyteam does not want us to fly JFK-IST... :rolleyes:


Originally Posted by TrojanTraveler (Post 18998950)
TK is indeed available, and yesterday was selling for a bit under $700.

...and is ballpark for what the other airlines are charging. Seems like a no-brainer to me for people living in NYC.


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