SWU madness....
#46
Join Date: Dec 2009
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Third time with @deltaassist did the trick. They checked me out and rechecked me in. Went from 9 tp 1 on the list. Now I only hope I did not lose my confirmed seat in coach as the flight is oversold and I'm not planning on taking the bump (which I know is sacrilege on this site ).
#47
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Third time with @deltaassist did the trick. They checked me out and rechecked me in. Went from 9 tp 1 on the list. Now I only hope I did not lose my confirmed seat in coach as the flight is oversold and I'm not planning on taking the bump (which I know is sacrilege on this site ).
#48
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: JAN
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 40
First time SWU user
This is my first time trying to use SWUs, and I'm not sure they've been applied correctly to my PNR. I'd like to attach a screenshot, but I guess I don't have enough posts to do that yet, so I've made it available at http://www.hogchain.net/photos/misc/swu.jpg .
Trip summary:
Outbound: JAN-ATL-SEA-FAI
Return: FAI-MSP-ATL-JAN
On the outbound flights, I've been booked into G for the JAN-ATL segment, and I'm waitlisted for G on the ATL-SEA segment (noted by the green arrow on the screenshot). That looks correct.
On the return flights, I'm booked into G for the MSP-ATL segment, but I'm not showing waitlisted for G on the FAI-MSP segment (red arrow). That doesn't look right. If the SWU is correctly applied, shouldn't I show as waitlisted on the FAI-MSP segment?
Thanks for your help.
Trip summary:
Outbound: JAN-ATL-SEA-FAI
Return: FAI-MSP-ATL-JAN
On the outbound flights, I've been booked into G for the JAN-ATL segment, and I'm waitlisted for G on the ATL-SEA segment (noted by the green arrow on the screenshot). That looks correct.
On the return flights, I'm booked into G for the MSP-ATL segment, but I'm not showing waitlisted for G on the FAI-MSP segment (red arrow). That doesn't look right. If the SWU is correctly applied, shouldn't I show as waitlisted on the FAI-MSP segment?
Thanks for your help.
#49
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, MR Titanium, MR LTP, AA EP, UA Silver
Posts: 743
This is my first time trying to use SWUs, and I'm not sure they've been applied correctly to my PNR. I'd like to attach a screenshot, but I guess I don't have enough posts to do that yet, so I've made it available at http://www.hogchain.net/photos/misc/swu.jpg .
Trip summary:
Outbound: JAN-ATL-SEA-FAI
Return: FAI-MSP-ATL-JAN
On the outbound flights, I've been booked into G for the JAN-ATL segment, and I'm waitlisted for G on the ATL-SEA segment (noted by the green arrow on the screenshot). That looks correct.
On the return flights, I'm booked into G for the MSP-ATL segment, but I'm not showing waitlisted for G on the FAI-MSP segment (red arrow). That doesn't look right. If the SWU is correctly applied, shouldn't I show as waitlisted on the FAI-MSP segment?
Thanks for your help.
Trip summary:
Outbound: JAN-ATL-SEA-FAI
Return: FAI-MSP-ATL-JAN
On the outbound flights, I've been booked into G for the JAN-ATL segment, and I'm waitlisted for G on the ATL-SEA segment (noted by the green arrow on the screenshot). That looks correct.
On the return flights, I'm booked into G for the MSP-ATL segment, but I'm not showing waitlisted for G on the FAI-MSP segment (red arrow). That doesn't look right. If the SWU is correctly applied, shouldn't I show as waitlisted on the FAI-MSP segment?
Thanks for your help.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: JAN
Programs: DL PM
Posts: 40
First, thanks for looking.
Fare Details: JAN DL X/ATL DL X/SEA DL FAI$$$.$$MB14UPNQ DL X/ MSP DL X/ATL DL JAN$$$.$$KB03A0NQ/XX2G2 USD$$$.$$ END ZPJANATLSEAFAIMSPATL
I'm not sure if the ticket has been reissued.
Fare Details: JAN DL X/ATL DL X/SEA DL FAI$$$.$$MB14UPNQ DL X/ MSP DL X/ATL DL JAN$$$.$$KB03A0NQ/XX2G2 USD$$$.$$ END ZPJANATLSEAFAIMSPATL
I'm not sure if the ticket has been reissued.
#51
Join Date: May 2008
Programs: Hyatt Globalist, HH Diamond, MR Titanium, MR LTP, AA EP, UA Silver
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#53
Join Date: May 2008
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This does a couple of things - first, confirms your seat up front for JAN-ATL and also makes sure your SWU is coded properly since they won't be able to reissue the ticket properly for the confirmed G/Z segments if it isn't coded properly.
You really can't/won't know if all is coded properly until you do OLCI at T-24 and monitor your status on the list. You should be very near the top as the only individuals trumping you would be a higher-fare PM using an SWU or a DM of any fare using an SWU.
#55
Join Date: May 2008
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Posts: 743
2. State you are on an international reservation when calling so that you get routed to desks that have more reissue authority.
3. If all goes to plan, they can reissue over the phone with you on hold while they're on with the GTS reissue desk.
#56
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Washington,DC
Posts: 1,822
I had two SWU's on two different records. Both showed the wait listed G after the economy flight. I called and the first agent I spoke to told me both had been entered incorrectly and adjusted.
I asked what do I need to tell the agent to make sure its done right. He said "In our system you first have to document the SWU in the ticket, then you put a remark in the record and then you move the Wait listed ticket and put it first" He was kinda difficult to understand but very helpful, so I didn't push for clarity. It does tell me
1. Delta need to train their DM agents. Its crazy that this problem continues
2. Having the SWU wait list before the confirmed segment is an indicator its been done right
#57
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: LAX
Programs: DL, AS, Marriott, Hyatt, National
Posts: 863
Thanks
I had two SWU's on two different records. Both showed the wait listed G after the economy flight. I called and the first agent I spoke to told me both had been entered incorrectly and adjusted.
I asked what do I need to tell the agent to make sure its done right. He said "In our system you first have to document the SWU in the ticket, then you put a remark in the record and then you move the Wait listed ticket and put it first" He was kinda difficult to understand but very helpful, so I didn't push for clarity. It does tell me
1. Delta need to train their DM agents. Its crazy that this problem continues
2. Having the SWU wait list before the confirmed segment is an indicator its been done right
I had two SWU's on two different records. Both showed the wait listed G after the economy flight. I called and the first agent I spoke to told me both had been entered incorrectly and adjusted.
I asked what do I need to tell the agent to make sure its done right. He said "In our system you first have to document the SWU in the ticket, then you put a remark in the record and then you move the Wait listed ticket and put it first" He was kinda difficult to understand but very helpful, so I didn't push for clarity. It does tell me
1. Delta need to train their DM agents. Its crazy that this problem continues
2. Having the SWU wait list before the confirmed segment is an indicator its been done right
#58
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Enn Why Cee
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Posts: 1,570
i am bookmarking this thread. after having paid up and sat in the back for two transcons, i am enraged with the lack of consistency and number of hurdles one needs to jump.
the knowledge here is invaluable though, I wish i saw it a week ago
thanks for your contributions - looking forward to applying them in practice
the knowledge here is invaluable though, I wish i saw it a week ago
thanks for your contributions - looking forward to applying them in practice
#59
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i am bookmarking this thread. after having paid up and sat in the back for two transcons, i am enraged with the lack of consistency and number of hurdles one needs to jump.
the knowledge here is invaluable though, I wish i saw it a week ago
thanks for your contributions - looking forward to applying them in practice
the knowledge here is invaluable though, I wish i saw it a week ago
thanks for your contributions - looking forward to applying them in practice
Well DL had 11 open seats and finally at T minus 3 days opened up 2 Z (got my EF notification). But what was more troubling was after a few hours of Z opening up I did not clear. So I call the DL DM line and they manually cleared me and reissued the ticket. As soon as that was done I checked EF and sure enough, Z=1 (DM agent also confirmed 2 open before she cleared me, 1 after).
I thought this is supposed to be automated. So are you telling me a PM on an M fare if he/she called in earlier could have snagged those seats away from a waitlisted DM on Y?
DM agent says I was "supposed" to clear by priority, but mentioned that if I didn't clear the only possible explanation was that someone else was waitlisted. But if that was the case, why didn't anyone clear and Z sit open for over 3 hours?
Great job for automation DL.
Oh, and it took 22 min to reissue the ticket. On an international call. Thanks DL.
#60
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Makati City, Philippines
Programs: Delta Skymiles DM, CX GO, Hilton Honors Diamond
Posts: 1,361
Well the SWU woes continue. In my case I got lucky (much due to EF). Had two international segments. First (shorter one) cleared, the second TPAC leg did not as there was no Z. Fine, I'll take my dice with Z opening up.
Well DL had 11 open seats and finally at T minus 3 days opened up 2 Z (got my EF notification). But what was more troubling was after a few hours of Z opening up I did not clear. So I call the DL DM line and they manually cleared me and reissued the ticket. As soon as that was done I checked EF and sure enough, Z=1 (DM agent also confirmed 2 open before she cleared me, 1 after).
I thought this is supposed to be automated. So are you telling me a PM on an M fare if he/she called in earlier could have snagged those seats away from a waitlisted DM on Y?
DM agent says I was "supposed" to clear by priority, but mentioned that if I didn't clear the only possible explanation was that someone else was waitlisted. But if that was the case, why didn't anyone clear and Z sit open for over 3 hours?
Great job for automation DL.
Oh, and it took 22 min to reissue the ticket. On an international call. Thanks DL.
Well DL had 11 open seats and finally at T minus 3 days opened up 2 Z (got my EF notification). But what was more troubling was after a few hours of Z opening up I did not clear. So I call the DL DM line and they manually cleared me and reissued the ticket. As soon as that was done I checked EF and sure enough, Z=1 (DM agent also confirmed 2 open before she cleared me, 1 after).
I thought this is supposed to be automated. So are you telling me a PM on an M fare if he/she called in earlier could have snagged those seats away from a waitlisted DM on Y?
DM agent says I was "supposed" to clear by priority, but mentioned that if I didn't clear the only possible explanation was that someone else was waitlisted. But if that was the case, why didn't anyone clear and Z sit open for over 3 hours?
Great job for automation DL.
Oh, and it took 22 min to reissue the ticket. On an international call. Thanks DL.