Latest 717 rumor: DL deal in place
Mar 20, 2012, 7:31 pm
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HA is taking 3 off Boeing already this fall. When QA went under they returned 16 of them to Boeing. If DL wants some 717 action I'm sure Boeing would be happy to sell them the other 13.
Mar 20, 2012, 11:56 pm
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It's 7K feet. 5191 was result of using the incorrect runway. There is a 747 that lands here seasonally for the Keeneland races.
Mar 21, 2012, 1:12 pm
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Don't you guys talking about proposal new 717-300X?
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...r_030918g.html
Can Boeing will have reconsider again to built newest 717-300X? It will bring more than 100 - 130 passengers. I think they will restored the 717 production again.
http://www.boeing.com/news/releases/...r_030918g.html
Can Boeing will have reconsider again to built newest 717-300X? It will bring more than 100 - 130 passengers. I think they will restored the 717 production again.
Mar 21, 2012, 1:20 pm
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Replace the CRJ 900 flights with 717, the CRJ 700 flights with CRJ 900, and the CRJ flights with 700!!!
A life without the CRJ.....a dream!!!
A life without the CRJ.....a dream!!!
Mar 21, 2012, 1:53 pm
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Mar 21, 2012, 2:15 pm
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What's all the vitriol agains the MD88s here? While I share the majority view here that adding 717s to DL's fleet would be a good thing and I know they're getting a bit long in the tooth, I haven't been on an MD88 yet that was in any way below par. I think they've held up well, and ANY former MD design (DC9s thru 717) rides/flies smoother IMHO than any Boeing or Airbus product.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:20 pm
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What's all the vitriol agains the MD88s here? While I share the majority view here that adding 717s to DL's fleet would be a good thing and I know they're getting a bit long in the tooth, I haven't been on an MD88 yet that was in any way below par. I think they've held up well, and ANY former MD design (DC9s thru 717) rides/flies smoother IMHO than any Boeing or Airbus product.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:22 pm
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Mar 21, 2012, 2:31 pm
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What's all the vitriol agains the MD88s here? While I share the majority view here that adding 717s to DL's fleet would be a good thing and I know they're getting a bit long in the tooth, I haven't been on an MD88 yet that was in any way below par. I think they've held up well, and ANY former MD design (DC9s thru 717) rides/flies smoother IMHO than any Boeing or Airbus product.
It's a no-brainer that these planes can only hold about 1 rollaboard and 1-2 small bags in the overhead per every 5 pax. When over half the plane is medallion or AmEx holder, most expecting to carry on luggage, this just doesn't work. At all.
No complaints about the ride, but I wish they had at least personal audio, if not video. DL is using these on a lot of 2-3 hour flights and I would kill for a 737 instead.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:42 pm
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They do NOT work well on Mon/Thu/Fri routes between major cites/hubs. In the summer there is not enough overhead space for all FOs to stow bags in the overhead, and in the winter there's barely enough room for Zone 1 (now SKY)!
It's a no-brainer that these planes can only hold about 1 rollaboard and 1-2 small bags in the overhead per every 5 pax. When over half the plane is medallion or AmEx holder, most expecting to carry on luggage, this just doesn't work. At all.
No complaints about the ride, but I wish they had at least personal audio, if not video. DL is using these on a lot of 2-3 hour flights and I would kill for a 737 instead.
It's a no-brainer that these planes can only hold about 1 rollaboard and 1-2 small bags in the overhead per every 5 pax. When over half the plane is medallion or AmEx holder, most expecting to carry on luggage, this just doesn't work. At all.
No complaints about the ride, but I wish they had at least personal audio, if not video. DL is using these on a lot of 2-3 hour flights and I would kill for a 737 instead.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:48 pm
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The reason is because there isn't enough space on the MD-88 relay panels for an IFE system. DL would have to install larger relay panels on them to add IFE, which would cost a lot of money.
Mar 21, 2012, 2:52 pm
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Count me among those also happy with this idea. I've flown a pair of 717s with Airtran and they're definitely decent aircraft in fine shape. And very similar to the D95...obviously.
Mar 21, 2012, 5:20 pm
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American Airlines got stuck with older planes than Delta for the most part but Delta is profitable right now. So it is time for the Boeing 717's to come onto the fleet to replace some planes.
Delta Mainline fleet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delta_Air_Lines_fleet
Delta does not run Embraers or CRJ's or the other types as regional airlines run those planes for Delta.
Delta could use some of those 717 in Mainline to replace A319, DC9-50 and possibly some MD88's.
Yes you are right I didn't include the A319 in those. If the 717 is more fuel efficient and Delta can live with the range and pax of the 717 perhaps it could make sense. The A319 were acquired from NorthWest and Delta could move to an all Boeing fleet.
Another strategy would be to use the 717's at the new LaGuardia Hub and expand mainline aircraft so Delta would run flights on 717 out of LaGuardia instead of depending on regional carriers. In this senario it would displace regional airlines.
LaGuardia will start to get phased in very soon and will expand services over there. But existing schedules show they plan on at least at first using regional airlines but they could want to use the 717's to migrate to a Delta run show at LGA which I think is very possible as the 717's come in.
If 717s get allocated to airports like LGA, then the MD88s would still be around, and so will the A319's for awhile yet. The DC9-50's however will get phased out.