Skymiles Change Rumor?
Mar 27, 2012, 10:05 am
#1291
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM, 4MM, SC, AmEx Reserve, UA Plat, SPG/Marriott Platinum, Hertz Gold
Posts: 2,383
Not necessarily true. When I travel, it's my butt in the bed with my Hilton account despite the fact that I'm spending OPM and the hotel programs are revenue-based. Take Hilton, for example, their program provides 10 base points per dollar spend. Then, 15%, 25% or 50% base point bonuses depending on elite level (silver, gold, and diamond). Redemption then is category-driven with certain properties costing more points that others.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:12 am
#1292
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
Reminds me of a guy I bought nuts from in Times Square. A pack of nuts was $3.00. I started to give him $3.00, but then he said, "I tell you what, give me that five-dollar bill and I'll give you two packs of nuts."
Sounds like a great deal until you realize he's selling you nuts.
Sounds like a great deal until you realize he's selling you nuts.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:20 am
#1293
Suspended
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: HKG
Programs: DL FO, UA, AA, AsiaMiles, SPG, HHonors
Posts: 7,982
That too. I've never liked UA. AA doesn't have that many TPAC options. SQ and CX are great, but expensive. DL is by far my best option... as things stand now.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:25 am
#1294
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Anywhere I need to be.
Programs: OW Emerald, *A Gold, NEXUS, GE, ABTC/APEC, South Korea SES, eIACS, PP, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 16,046
Cheaper than AC, CX for an upcoming trip.
And AA can't fly to CEB as there are no connection options in NRT.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:29 am
#1295
Join Date: Apr 2006
Programs: All of em more or less
Posts: 367
Yield versus Revenue
One thing I am curious about is yield versus revenue. If there is going to be a realignment, shouldn't they reward the highest yielding Pax rather than highest revenue pax? I can pay DL $500 a week flying between DCA and ATL or from BWI to LAX and produce the same annual spend but DL's costs are less and profits more on the higher yielding nonstop to ATL. I understand that eliminating the MRs may be one of the core goals here but if they are truly trying to reward the most profitable pax, I think they should find some way to reward yield rather than rev. Maybe theY should compare the yield paid versus the prior year's System CASM to award points.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:32 am
#1296
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Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: BOS
Programs: DL DM 2MM, Marriott LT Titanium, Hertz PC, Avis PC
Posts: 15,206
Not necessarily true. When I travel, it's my butt in the bed with my Hilton account despite the fact that I'm spending OPM and the hotel programs are revenue-based. Take Hilton, for example, their program provides 10 base points per dollar spend. Then, 15%, 25% or 50% base point bonuses depending on elite level (silver, gold, and diamond). Redemption then is category-driven with certain properties costing more points that others.
Mar 27, 2012, 10:34 am
#1297
Join Date: Mar 2011
Programs: Delta Ballast Medallion, Card Carrying Honorary KM
Posts: 553
JIC people think yours truly has been 'laying low before the bomb drops', I can assure you that it's only because there is still 'no news' on the home front (not even anything on the current issues with AF/KL either).
Still here, still waiting like everyone else... IF there is a 'big change' in the wind, I must be living in a cave...
Still here, still waiting like everyone else... IF there is a 'big change' in the wind, I must be living in a cave...
Mar 27, 2012, 11:06 am
#1298
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Chicago
Programs: UA 1K, HH Diamond
Posts: 2,055
Mar 27, 2012, 11:10 am
#1299
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 115
I've checked with my sources at Delta. There are adjustments being considered for HVC's, nothing huge or earth shattering. I was told Skymiles is always being looked at from a number of different angles for ways to make it better for users, while at the same time fit in the corporate box it needs to stay in.
Mar 27, 2012, 11:20 am
#1300
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
Mar 27, 2012, 11:22 am
#1301
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: LAX/BOS/HKG/AMS/SFO...hmm, I need a life.
Programs: United1K, AA ExPlAAt, DL MM/Gold, Hilton Diamond, Avis First
Posts: 13,316
This has all the makings of a class A hissy fit.
I've checked with my sources at Delta. There are adjustments being considered for HVC's, nothing huge or earth shattering. I was told Skymiles is always being looked at from a number of different angles for ways to make it better for users, while at the same time fit in the corporate box it needs to stay in.
I've checked with my sources at Delta. There are adjustments being considered for HVC's, nothing huge or earth shattering. I was told Skymiles is always being looked at from a number of different angles for ways to make it better for users, while at the same time fit in the corporate box it needs to stay in.
Mar 27, 2012, 11:45 am
#1302
Join Date: Feb 2011
Posts: 115
If LedgeT is truly omnipotent, my apologies for having people at Delta tell me something different than he has posted here.
Mar 27, 2012, 11:53 am
#1303
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: Now just a lowly DL PM/1MM. This industry needs some competition. It's just not enjoyable anymore.
Posts: 3,543
I believe I have figured it out.......this is a cleverly devised plan (actually cranked out by some intern in Jeff's department) to divide the FT community and turn it into a raging sea of petulant argumentation, ultimately rendering it useless as social media tool. This has been DL's desire all along. Revenge will be theirs!
Mar 27, 2012, 12:03 pm
#1304
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: check swarm
Programs: DL DM & 2MM, SPG/Bonvoid LT Titanium, Hyatt Globalist, $tarbucks Titanium
Posts: 14,404
Moderator suggestion
I'm sure skymilesinsider is in a tough spot here, but I hope the moderators are prepared to act quickly with or without a 'heads up' from Delta Loyalty.
I'd propose this thread be locked and seperate master threads are established for each component of the new program, each sticking to discussing the pros/cons of the program component with another commentary thread for 'venting' with possibly a poll function added.
Just a suggestion.
I'd propose this thread be locked and seperate master threads are established for each component of the new program, each sticking to discussing the pros/cons of the program component with another commentary thread for 'venting' with possibly a poll function added.
Just a suggestion.
Mar 27, 2012, 12:08 pm
#1305
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: Delta DM, 4MM, SC, AmEx Reserve, UA Plat, SPG/Marriott Platinum, Hertz Gold
Posts: 2,383
However, hotel programs are only partially rev based... as you said they give bonuses for 'loyalty' and also other promotions. However, on the redemption side the points requirement is only loosely related to room cost... it is more based upon redemption demand. I can find a hotel that costs 250/nt but is a very redemption category and others that cost less but are very high category.