Delta FA's to remain union free
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“I am shocked that this country’s cancerous attack on bargaining rights took away my voice at work today, and obliterated the hard work of women and men who came before me to build a contract and a career. In the face of workplace intimidation nearly ten thousand of us stood up and by the slightest margin our rights were stripped away. I can’t believe the agency that is charged with overseeing bargaining rights turned its back on me and my coworkers.” stated Delta Flight Attendant Belea Bower.
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And trying take WN to Atlanta Or CVG or MEM All Delta hubs.
WN's fares are no longer competive lately. I think a lot of it has to do with the loss of the advantage of their fuel hedges.
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WN is heaivlly unioned. They also have the most unprofessionally dressed flight crew in the industry (but the employees are friendly). However in the past year, WN is not the cheapest carrier, and in many cases out of DTW is quite a bit more than Delta.
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I don't understand why some FA's are upset they won't be unionized. The ACJ article says their pay is going to increase immediately to the same pay as a Delta FA PLUS they will no longer pay union dues. A pay raise and no union dues, why on earth complain about that?
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hazelrah was talking about Southwest's costs, not its fares. WN has lower costs than most airlines, despite industry-leading pay to its heavily unionized workforce.
Without a union, the PMNW FAs will be forced to be more efficient than, say, AA or UA FAs (in effect, having to work more for their pay).
Without a union, the PMNW FAs will be forced to be more efficient than, say, AA or UA FAs (in effect, having to work more for their pay).
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I agree with this. I can not understand why former NW employees would want to stay unionized when they are really being screwed over as non unionized Delta FA's are earning more money without having to pay the union.
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There are other ways a non-union company can stay competitive as well. Look at all the petty complaints the AFA filed such as no size 28 designer dresses and not being able to use carts in first class. Stuff like that costs an employer money.
WN and Jet Blue and F9 are also going to have lower costs than Delta seeing they don't have catering expenses, they don't have the expense of lounges, they don't have gates at some of the more expensive airports like ORD and JFK, they don't provide international service.....
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IIRC Delta has the best paid FA's in the industry. WN also posted a loss for Q3. They had a big cost advantage for years with their fuel hedges. If WN's costs are lower than Deltas then their fares should be reflecting that as well.
There are other ways a non-union company can stay competitive as well. Look at all the petty complaints the AFA filed such as no size 28 designer dresses and not being able to use carts in first class. Stuff like that costs an employer money.
WN and Jet Blue and F9 are also going to have lower costs than Delta seeing they don't have catering expenses, they don't have the expense of lounges, they don't have gates at some of the more expensive airports like ORD and JFK, they don't provide international service.....
There are other ways a non-union company can stay competitive as well. Look at all the petty complaints the AFA filed such as no size 28 designer dresses and not being able to use carts in first class. Stuff like that costs an employer money.
WN and Jet Blue and F9 are also going to have lower costs than Delta seeing they don't have catering expenses, they don't have the expense of lounges, they don't have gates at some of the more expensive airports like ORD and JFK, they don't provide international service.....
Southwest and JetBlue really don't cater to the business class traveller.
Delta picks up a lot of these business class travellers I must say across the board.
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hazelrah was talking about Southwest's costs, not its fares. WN has lower costs than most airlines, despite industry-leading pay to its heavily unionized workforce.
Without a union, the PMNW FAs will be forced to be more efficient than, say, AA or UA FAs (in effect, having to work more for their pay).
Without a union, the PMNW FAs will be forced to be more efficient than, say, AA or UA FAs (in effect, having to work more for their pay).
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I often see airline personnel on the LIRR. Not sure if some are pilots/first officers or flight attendents and the like. Some are very professionally dressed which is very nice to see. These personnel would be out of JFK and I guess a lot of personnel make use of the Air Train since it is very convenient.
Southwest and JetBlue really don't cater to the business class traveller.
Delta picks up a lot of these business class travellers I must say across the board.
Southwest and JetBlue really don't cater to the business class traveller.
Delta picks up a lot of these business class travellers I must say across the board.
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