Originally Posted by BobRoss
(Post 14188930)
Cell phones have absolutely caused in-flight incidents:
http://www.askthepilot.com/questions...apter-5/#c5-q5 Further, from my bag of tricks, I can tell you for a fact that a cell phone CAN create interference on the VHF radios in use on the plane. That's actually how we used to be reminded to turn our cell phones off as the pilot; you heard a repeating undulating noise on the radio as the phone sent out a burst signal. Turn the phone off, problem solved. (This is in a Lear 35.) We could occasionally tell when one of the pax turned their phone on, as well, for the same reason. Annoying, yes. Dangerous, not really, but I suppose if it came at exactly the wrong time coupled with other distractions, maybe. A correctly placed, transmissive device can cause interference. I'm aware of the frequency seperation, so I'd guess its some kind of harmonic interference, or simple bleed through; of course, 20 year old wiring could have had some fraying issues as well. For the other issues raised: computers, iPods, Kindles. Computers I get - they're big enough to be a projectile, and interfere with egress. iPods I've always found silly, but I guess I can buy it. Kindles/Nooks, tough? That one's my pet peeve. Same size/weight as a book (which is OK) but has to be put away. Hell, my Kindle is an autorized source for FLIP to be used in the cockpit to display approach charts; why shouldn't I be allowed to keep it on, and keep reading? However, when prompted, away it goes, to avoid any "unpleasantness." Dems da rules, after all, and the crew is empowered to enforce them. |
Originally Posted by JA_AK
(Post 14189060)
Great link, but I object to the word, "absolutely." Your link speculates on them as a cause, whatever version of the NTSB that investigated (yes, I know, NTSB is only in the US and hence I said whatever version implying the foreign national version thereof) the accidents didn't rule it as causal.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss In 2001, shortly after takeoff from Ljubljana, Slovenia, a cell phone left on in the cargo hold of a Canadair regional jet triggered a false fire alarm. The pilot then made an emergency landing. |
Originally Posted by KenfromDE
(Post 14188924)
I finally got the whole, true story. The FA was trying to eject the passenger from his favorite seat, 23F, and force him to sit in FC. He called the elite line to complain and was told by the FA to turn off the phone. He tried to explain to the FA, who was hard of hearing, and therefore had to yell. Meanwhile the cat under the neighboring seat got out of the cage and ate his celery. The empty first class seat was given to the cat and the flight was mouse free. ;)
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Originally Posted by BobRoss
(Post 14189234)
I dunno:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/htm...yndication=rss It sounds pretty definite in that article, too. But, sure, soften the language to "possibly". Still, it's a risk. Again, I think the risk is tiny and probably not worth worrying about, but it's still nonzero. That's all. Aviation fire alarms generally work one of three ways: like the smoke detector in your home, by heat, or optically. The theory behind the optical detector is that the hold should be dark, so any bright light must by necessity be from a flame source. There would likely be a weight on wheels switch that deactivates it, so you don't get a warning klaxon when the baggage door is opened to offload the bags. In this case, I would speculate that the cell phone lit up when a call came in; that means it was in an exterior pocket, and the material was thin enough to see through, and it was facing the right direction to be picked up by a detector. The cell phone in and of itself wouldn't have caused any issues (i.e., not an interference issue) but was instead a light that shone in the wrong place. Not an issue with the phone being in the pax's hand; not really sure how I feel about it. That's the kind of scenario I would have to laugh at, though, and it also sounds like, "Well, we can't explain what happened, so this is what we think happened." I did some digging to try and find the actual cause of this "incident"...wouldn't you know it, nothing really exists online, and I don't really want to try and find the Slovenian version of an NTSB! Plus, my Slovenian is a little rusty, so I might not be able to read it... |
Originally Posted by DLNYC
(Post 14189273)
This is getting out of hand...........
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Originally Posted by DLNYC
(Post 14189273)
This is getting out of hand. I'm emailing DL re this whole debacle right now. I'll get back to you in 5-7 business days. (Just to make sure my email is accurate, it was #1 who was on the phone and was rude, so the FA upgraded #2 and his turtle instead?)
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Originally Posted by AJDelvarno
(Post 14189614)
Definitely requires an email to DL. Ask for compensation. Not sure about your facts, though. Are you sure #1 was on the phone?
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Originally Posted by AJDelvarno
(Post 14189614)
Definitely requires an email to DL. Ask for compensation. Not sure about your facts, though. Are you sure #1 was on the phone?
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What really happened was that the #1 PAX was on a early delivered iPhone 4 and the cat under the seat of #2 was actually a Droid. That just doesn't mix.
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So #1 was talking on a cell phone and #2 was speeding???
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how does OP know all this?
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Originally Posted by nfg05
(Post 14191534)
how does OP know all this?
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Finally.. photos of #1 and #2... and the cat!
Number One:
http://news.filefront.com/wp-content...11/dr-evil.jpg Number Two: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_wJDJpE18iY...ensnapz003.png And the cat!: http://blogs.newsobserver.com/sites/...glesworth0.jpg The turtle is reported to be hiding out with Dubai royalty trying to avoid the paparazzi. |
Was hoping that after three weeks and 88 posts, OP might return to help clarify this situation. No dice. Had he/she been a bit more straightforward, and avoided such terms as “chuckle,” we might not all be here scratching our heads.
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Originally Posted by AJDelvarno
(Post 14193268)
Was hoping that after three weeks and 88 posts, OP might return to help clarify this situation. No dice. Had he/she been a bit more straightforward, and avoided such terms as “chuckle,” we might not all be here scratching our heads.
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