Why stick with Delta?
#1
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8
Why stick with Delta?
Hi all, new to FT and enjoying all the discussions. I've probably only taken a total of 7 rt flights (4 international) in the past few years, but I'm looking to fly a bit more and also take advantage of mileage programs, so that's why I'm here.
Anyway, I recently flew Delta from MSP to NRT and had a shocking experience. Even now, I feel sick and just feel bad whenever I hear the word "Delta."
I have 46,000 Skymiles, and not much of anything with other carriers.
If you look at the other forums, Delta seems to be disproportionately filled with unhappy customers. Threads about getting cheated or ripped off somehow are a lot more common. What I don't understand is, a number of posters claim that Delta started to go "bad" in the 1990s. If that's true, how can people put up with that for so long?
I'm probably going to focus on other airlines, maybe AA. The way I see it is, if someone offered me $50 to lose my clothing, make me sick, treat me like a felon and steal time with friends and family, I would, uh, refuse that offer.
But before I make this choice... what am I missing? What do happy Delta customers see that I don't?
Anyway, I recently flew Delta from MSP to NRT and had a shocking experience. Even now, I feel sick and just feel bad whenever I hear the word "Delta."
I have 46,000 Skymiles, and not much of anything with other carriers.
If you look at the other forums, Delta seems to be disproportionately filled with unhappy customers. Threads about getting cheated or ripped off somehow are a lot more common. What I don't understand is, a number of posters claim that Delta started to go "bad" in the 1990s. If that's true, how can people put up with that for so long?
I'm probably going to focus on other airlines, maybe AA. The way I see it is, if someone offered me $50 to lose my clothing, make me sick, treat me like a felon and steal time with friends and family, I would, uh, refuse that offer.
But before I make this choice... what am I missing? What do happy Delta customers see that I don't?
#2
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#3
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Care to elaborate on what made you so unhappy?
#4
Join Date: May 2003
Location: ATL/MOO (Many Others Often)
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As for me, I'm a hub captive myself and the last 2200 miles of my commute to work every 6 weeks or so is on a carrier that is Sky Team with no *A or OW to compete with. I'm kinda stuck where I am with Delta/ST for those two reasons.
I am looking elsewhere though...
I am looking elsewhere though...
#5
Moderator: Delta SkyMiles, Luxury Hotels, TravelBuzz! and Italy
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 26,571
Appears to have been a mechanical problem for which the OP was offered 25K miles or $200.00
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-issues-3.html
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/delta...-issues-3.html
#6
Original Poster
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 8
In that post I forgot to mention that the food (on the next-day rebooked flight) made both my girlfriend and I sick, which personally almost never happens to me. They also lost our luggage. To top it off, they treated us with contempt.
#7
Moderator: Delta SkyMiles, Luxury Hotels, TravelBuzz! and Italy
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Los Angeles
Posts: 26,571
"I'm probably going to focus on other airlines, maybe AA. The way I see it is, if someone offered me $50 to lose my clothing, make me sick, treat me like a felon and steal time with friends and family, I would, uh, refuse that offer."
So, are you going to refuse the 25000 miles or $200.00 which was offered?
Just curious.
#8
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 953
If you look at the other forums, Delta seems to be disproportionately filled with unhappy customers. Threads about getting cheated or ripped off somehow are a lot more common. What I don't understand is, a number of posters claim that Delta started to go "bad" in the 1990s. If that's true, how can people put up with that for so long?
Southwest? 101.
American? 85.
United? 81.
Continental? 62.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines
So, yes all things being equal I would expect to see more complaints about DL simply because of their size. I'm not excusing or apologizing for DL behavior, just suggesting that # of complaints (in a subjective forum such as this) is probably not a good indicator of larger trends.
I haven't done any sort of statistical analysis on it, but the FlyerTalker population isn't exactly a "random sample" -- we've got a lot of sampling bias here.
#9
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MEM
Programs: AA - PP
Posts: 887
The only advice I can offer is start with who flies most out of where you're based, try a few of the airlines out, and decide from there. For me right now, convenience wins out over lack of service.
#10
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MEM
Programs: AA - PP
Posts: 887
Are they? Delta carries over 160 million people per year.
Southwest? 101.
American? 85.
United? 81.
Continental? 62.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines
So, yes all things being equal I would expect to see more complaints about DL simply because of their size. I'm not excusing or apologizing for DL behavior, just suggesting that # of complaints (in a subjective forum such as this) is probably not a good indicator of larger trends.
I haven't done any sort of statistical analysis on it, but the FlyerTalker population isn't exactly a "random sample" -- we've got a lot of sampling bias here.
Southwest? 101.
American? 85.
United? 81.
Continental? 62.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines
So, yes all things being equal I would expect to see more complaints about DL simply because of their size. I'm not excusing or apologizing for DL behavior, just suggesting that # of complaints (in a subjective forum such as this) is probably not a good indicator of larger trends.
I haven't done any sort of statistical analysis on it, but the FlyerTalker population isn't exactly a "random sample" -- we've got a lot of sampling bias here.
Last edited by Moebius01; Jan 20, 2010 at 8:28 am
#11
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: DL Diamond Medallion, AA Executive Platinum, Hilton HHonors Gold VIP
Posts: 564
Are they? Delta carries over 160 million people per year.
Southwest? 101.
American? 85.
United? 81.
Continental? 62.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines
So, yes all things being equal I would expect to see more complaints about DL simply because of their size. I'm not excusing or apologizing for DL behavior, just suggesting that # of complaints (in a subjective forum such as this) is probably not a good indicator of larger trends.
I haven't done any sort of statistical analysis on it, but the FlyerTalker population isn't exactly a "random sample" -- we've got a lot of sampling bias here.
Southwest? 101.
American? 85.
United? 81.
Continental? 62.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World's_largest_airlines
So, yes all things being equal I would expect to see more complaints about DL simply because of their size. I'm not excusing or apologizing for DL behavior, just suggesting that # of complaints (in a subjective forum such as this) is probably not a good indicator of larger trends.
I haven't done any sort of statistical analysis on it, but the FlyerTalker population isn't exactly a "random sample" -- we've got a lot of sampling bias here.
Riiight... let's just turn our heads away from reality
#12
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: PHL
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 953
This is true. I agree, they may be "too big to succeed". I'm not sure why there's this obsession to be "largest". Obviously there are some economies of scale in a large fixed-asset business as airlines, but man -- when something goes wrong (Irrops etc.) "The bigger they are the harder they fall".
#13
Join Date: Jul 2009
Programs: DL Diamond Medallion, AA Executive Platinum, Hilton HHonors Gold VIP
Posts: 564
too large and too unconcerned for it's own good. I am sure they have heard all the complaints related to their rusty website and non sense award redemption prices.. but have/will they do anything in a timely manner?
#14
Join Date: Oct 2007
Programs: Now just a lowly DL PM/1MM. This industry needs some competition. It's just not enjoyable anymore.
Posts: 3,543
To answer the OP's original question, I can think of no good reason for you to stick with DL. Suggest you move on to another carrier.
#15
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: MEM
Programs: AA - PP
Posts: 887
Of course not. They're so big people have to fly them now. Why bother with actually trying to attract or create loyal customers.