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Current welcome offer is 50,000 30,000 Crystal points with $5,000 $3,000 spending in the first 90 days. First annual fee not waived. (as of telephone call with bank employee 8/7/2019)
Past bonuses were:
***** #1502 - signup bonus 1/16/18 BUT ANNUAL FEE NOT WAIVED ******
100,000 points after spending $5,000 in first three months. Offer expires 30 December 2015. EXPIRED
A 70,000 points offer was offered back in March 2017 and expired March 31st, 2017. EXPIRED
The requirements for the application process varies from bank to bank based on various online data points collected from FlyerTalk, Doctor of Credit, etc.
Some banks require that you go into a branch and apply personally. Other banks want you to have another account open for 90 days before you can get this card. Some banks (if you already have a relationship with them) let you apply via mail. Sometimes you have to be a resident of the state they operate in, while some were able to get the card without living in those states. It is very much YMMV. You will need proof of income (W2, check stubs, etc). The only states City National Bank operates in are: NY, DE (only trust office, no go), DC, GA, TN, MN, NV & CA. The bank is looking for high net worth individuals, but that's not exactly consistent either.
The card has no foreign transactions fees and is fee-free the first year, then $400 annually.
Register your card for online access (cno.cnb.com). This changed on Sept 19 2019.
Register separately for the award page (www.cnbrewards.com).
Register for Visa Infinite info and access at https://myvisainfinite.com/cnb/en_us/home.html
Click "my info" to see details on points awarded.
Best* redemption found to date is $1,000 prepaid visa for 105K pts. It's now 125K pts for a $1,000 prepaid visa. Link to catalog
*(other than spending for flights etc. & getting 1.2 cents each in value)
To set-up spending alerts, create an account here : http://citynationalbank.digitalcardservice.com
Point redemptions for flights have been reported as being as high as 1.35cpp (see here) by calling the Concierge service at +1 800 595 8950 and having them book direct from airline website for you
Significant benefits:
$250 per calendar year airline incidental credit - works on AU card as well - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THE CREDIT WILL BE $350 PER ACCOUNT
$100 Global Entry fee credit - works on AU card as well Per DDResq post 842
Priority Pass lounge membership for up to 2 people. No fee for any number of guests, but lounge policy may limit the number of guests admitted.- STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 EACH ADDITIONAL GUEST BEYOND ACCOUNT HOLDER WILL BE CHARGED $32
12 GoGo inflight passes - create an account at myvisainfinite.com/cnb. Once the account is created, you enter, then search for GoGo passes. You then input your card number again, create a GoGo account if you don't have one, and the 12 passes post to it ready to be used when you fly again on a participating airline. - works on AU card as well
$100 off when you book a qualifying airline itinerary via visa discount air portal (https://www.visadiscountair.com/CNB/default.aspx - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THIS WILL NO LONGER BE OFFERED AS A BENEFIT
$30 off GroundLink car service (works with AU cards as well) plus instant 15% off rides. There are $25 current user referrals to go for first.
Airline fees are reimbursed up to $250 per calendar year. Fees must be from domestic carriers. There is no need to declare a carrier, and fees can be reimbursed from multiple carriers. Partial Ts and Cs:
Qualifying Airline Purchases are defined as incidental airline fee transactions made at eligible US Domestic Airline Carriers and include: ticket change/cancellation fees, checked baggage fees, inflight entertainment, onboard food and beverage charges, airport lounge membership fees and day passes, onboard wireless charges (excluding Gogo Wireless), and TSA Pre✓® membership application fee.
What works
AA: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees ($150)
AA: e-Gift cards $250 including AUs (1x per card max 4)
AS: Award ticket fees, $16
AS: In flight food, entertainment.
AS: Premium Class Upgrade, $59
HA: Interisland Flight, $48.80
UA: award ticket fees, $51
WN: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees (limit unknown, but it's between $75 and $80 per transaction), Early Bird boarding fees ($15)
DL: Baggage fees
B6: $53.30 airfare
What doesn't work
AS: Award ticket fees, $130ish
DL: GC; PGGM (reports of not working since April/2016)
DL: Just about anything. Don't use on Delta
UA: MPX, Award Fees (~$170)
UA: Gift card registry (up to $75) (No longer working as of 11/25/17)
UA: Seat Selection Fee
WN: GC
EY: Award Fees
TW: Change fee
UO: Seat fee
AA: Award Fees/Taxes on an itinerary originating outside the US.
To Be Confirmed
UA: Award Redeposit Fees ($200)
Global Entry reimbursements: (works on AU also)
user - mnsweeps ( https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29336509-post1549.html )
Used mine and a AU card to register for GE for in laws
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00
Credit posted today for both cards.
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00
In 2016, 2017 AND 2018 airline incidental credits for transactions on-or-after January 1st did not start posting until the third week of January. In 2019 they started posting on Jan 11th.
For further information, see this
STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 there are going to be major changes to this card, these being:[/s]
Sources:
discussion starting here
https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...ewards2020.pdf
https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...rystal2020.pdf
Past bonuses were:
The requirements for the application process varies from bank to bank based on various online data points collected from FlyerTalk, Doctor of Credit, etc.
Some banks require that you go into a branch and apply personally. Other banks want you to have another account open for 90 days before you can get this card. Some banks (if you already have a relationship with them) let you apply via mail. Sometimes you have to be a resident of the state they operate in, while some were able to get the card without living in those states. It is very much YMMV. You will need proof of income (W2, check stubs, etc). The only states City National Bank operates in are: NY, DE (only trust office, no go), DC, GA, TN, MN, NV & CA. The bank is looking for high net worth individuals, but that's not exactly consistent either.
The card has no foreign transactions fees and is fee-free the first year, then $400 annually.
Register your card for online access (cno.cnb.com). This changed on Sept 19 2019.
Register separately for the award page (www.cnbrewards.com).
Register for Visa Infinite info and access at https://myvisainfinite.com/cnb/en_us/home.html
Click "my info" to see details on points awarded.
*(other than spending for flights etc. & getting 1.2 cents each in value)
To set-up spending alerts, create an account here : http://citynationalbank.digitalcardservice.com
Point redemptions for flights have been reported as being as high as 1.35cpp (see here) by calling the Concierge service at +1 800 595 8950 and having them book direct from airline website for you
Significant benefits:
$250 per calendar year airline incidental credit - works on AU card as well - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THE CREDIT WILL BE $350 PER ACCOUNT
$100 Global Entry fee credit - works on AU card as well Per DDResq post 842
Priority Pass lounge membership for up to 2 people. No fee for any number of guests, but lounge policy may limit the number of guests admitted.- STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 EACH ADDITIONAL GUEST BEYOND ACCOUNT HOLDER WILL BE CHARGED $32
12 GoGo inflight passes - create an account at myvisainfinite.com/cnb. Once the account is created, you enter, then search for GoGo passes. You then input your card number again, create a GoGo account if you don't have one, and the 12 passes post to it ready to be used when you fly again on a participating airline. - works on AU card as well
$100 off when you book a qualifying airline itinerary via visa discount air portal (https://www.visadiscountair.com/CNB/default.aspx - STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 THIS WILL NO LONGER BE OFFERED AS A BENEFIT
$30 off GroundLink car service (works with AU cards as well) plus instant 15% off rides. There are $25 current user referrals to go for first.
Airline fees are reimbursed up to $250 per calendar year. Fees must be from domestic carriers. There is no need to declare a carrier, and fees can be reimbursed from multiple carriers. Partial Ts and Cs:
Qualifying Airline Purchases are defined as incidental airline fee transactions made at eligible US Domestic Airline Carriers and include: ticket change/cancellation fees, checked baggage fees, inflight entertainment, onboard food and beverage charges, airport lounge membership fees and day passes, onboard wireless charges (excluding Gogo Wireless), and TSA Pre✓® membership application fee.
What works
AA: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees ($150)
AA: e-Gift cards $250 including AUs (1x per card max 4)
AS: Award ticket fees, $16
AS: In flight food, entertainment.
AS: Premium Class Upgrade, $59
HA: Interisland Flight, $48.80
UA: award ticket fees, $51
WN: Award Fees/Taxes, Award Redeposit Fees (limit unknown, but it's between $75 and $80 per transaction), Early Bird boarding fees ($15)
DL: Baggage fees
B6: $53.30 airfare
What doesn't work
AS: Award ticket fees, $130ish
DL: GC; PGGM (reports of not working since April/2016)
DL: Just about anything. Don't use on Delta
UA: MPX, Award Fees (~$170)
UA: Gift card registry (up to $75) (No longer working as of 11/25/17)
UA: Seat Selection Fee
WN: GC
EY: Award Fees
TW: Change fee
UO: Seat fee
AA: Award Fees/Taxes on an itinerary originating outside the US.
To Be Confirmed
UA: Award Redeposit Fees ($200)
Global Entry reimbursements: (works on AU also)
user - mnsweeps ( https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/29336509-post1549.html )
Used mine and a AU card to register for GE for in laws
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00
01/17/201801/18/2018USCUSTOMS TRUSTEDTRAVELER$100.00
Credit posted today for both cards.
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00
01/20/201801/24/2018GLOBAL ENTRY STMT CREDIT $100.00
In 2016, 2017 AND 2018 airline incidental credits for transactions on-or-after January 1st did not start posting until the third week of January. In 2019 they started posting on Jan 11th.
For further information, see this
STARTING JAN 1ST, 2020 there are going to be major changes to this card, these being:[/s]
$350 airline incidental credit per account (was $250 per AU)$95 Annual Fee per AU$32 per guest using PriorityPass (used to be free & unlimited)Elimination of $100 Visa Air Discount BenefitGroceries and Gas only earn 1x (used to be 3x)
discussion starting here
https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...ewards2020.pdf
https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...rystal2020.pdf
City National Bank Crystal Visa Infinite (USA); NY GA TN NV CA MA DC & MN
#2251
Join Date: Nov 2013
Location: Berkeley, CA
Programs: United, Copa, Hyatt, Hilton, SPG, Marriott, Hertz, Avis
Posts: 10
DP UA Seat assignments
Just to confirm the sticky, seat assignment fees on UA do not trigger the fee reimbursement automatically. Had two economy plus fees that did not clear automatically. To confirm, this is actually listed in the T&C https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...l-Benefits.pdf (page 51).
Qualifying Airline Purchases are defined as incidental airline fee transactions made at eligible US-Domestic Airline Carriers (each an "Eligible Airline") on domestic itineraries and include: ticket change/cancellation fees, checked baggage fees, in-flight entertainment, onboard food and beverage charges, airport lounge membership fees and day passes, onboard wireless charges (excluding Gogo Wireless), and TSA Pre✓® membership application fee1transactions, and may vary depending on the airline. Airline ticket purchases, seat fees (including upgrade and preferred seat charges), standby fees, carry-on and checked pet fees, mileage point purchases, mileage points, transfer fees, gift cards, duty free purchases, award tickets and fees incurred with airline alliance partners do not qualify as Qualifying Airline Purchases. Airport lounge fees not affiliated with airlines and transactions made with travel agencies are also not deemed to be Qualifying Airline Purchases. All incidental airline fees must be separate charges from airline ticket charges and must be made with an Eligible Airline.
I will say that the list of items that trigger the reimbursement in the T&C is pitiful and nearly useless as is. Plus incredibly challenging to navigate. It's like trying to sort out the free breakfast for platinums with Marriott. I like that you can get wifi unless it's gogo, which is, of course, nearly all wifi on planes these days. Who is is actually going to accumulate $250/card in the actually allowable fees that they otherwise would have been spending on anyway (sure, I can stock up on $250 in chips next time on the plane). Obviously there are other options to consider and I still like this card for many reasons, but this kind gamesmanship on the CC companies part (Amex included) is absurd. I'd much rather taken less and make it more flexible. Gotta hand it to Chase for making their reimbursement a real benefit that does not require any jumping through hoops.
Qualifying Airline Purchases are defined as incidental airline fee transactions made at eligible US-Domestic Airline Carriers (each an "Eligible Airline") on domestic itineraries and include: ticket change/cancellation fees, checked baggage fees, in-flight entertainment, onboard food and beverage charges, airport lounge membership fees and day passes, onboard wireless charges (excluding Gogo Wireless), and TSA Pre✓® membership application fee1transactions, and may vary depending on the airline. Airline ticket purchases, seat fees (including upgrade and preferred seat charges), standby fees, carry-on and checked pet fees, mileage point purchases, mileage points, transfer fees, gift cards, duty free purchases, award tickets and fees incurred with airline alliance partners do not qualify as Qualifying Airline Purchases. Airport lounge fees not affiliated with airlines and transactions made with travel agencies are also not deemed to be Qualifying Airline Purchases. All incidental airline fees must be separate charges from airline ticket charges and must be made with an Eligible Airline.
I will say that the list of items that trigger the reimbursement in the T&C is pitiful and nearly useless as is. Plus incredibly challenging to navigate. It's like trying to sort out the free breakfast for platinums with Marriott. I like that you can get wifi unless it's gogo, which is, of course, nearly all wifi on planes these days. Who is is actually going to accumulate $250/card in the actually allowable fees that they otherwise would have been spending on anyway (sure, I can stock up on $250 in chips next time on the plane). Obviously there are other options to consider and I still like this card for many reasons, but this kind gamesmanship on the CC companies part (Amex included) is absurd. I'd much rather taken less and make it more flexible. Gotta hand it to Chase for making their reimbursement a real benefit that does not require any jumping through hoops.
#2252
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 4,863
I will say that the list of items that trigger the reimbursement in the T&C is pitiful and nearly useless as is. Plus incredibly challenging to navigate. It's like trying to sort out the free breakfast for platinums with Marriott. I like that you can get wifi unless it's gogo, which is, of course, nearly all wifi on planes these days. Who is is actually going to accumulate $250/card in the actually allowable fees that they otherwise would have been spending on anyway (sure, I can stock up on $250 in chips next time on the plane). Obviously there are other options to consider and I still like this card for many reasons, but this kind gamesmanship on the CC companies part (Amex included) is absurd. I'd much rather taken less and make it more flexible. Gotta hand it to Chase for making their reimbursement a real benefit that does not require any jumping through hoops.
Last edited by EasternTraveler; Mar 2, 2019 at 5:52 pm
#2253
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: ATL, BHM, DUB, County Wexford
Programs: DL DM, AA ExPlt, Diamond HH, HY, BW, & Titanium Elite Marriott
Posts: 4,863
Just to confirm the sticky, seat assignment fees on UA do not trigger the fee reimbursement automatically. Had two economy plus fees that did not clear automatically. To confirm, this is actually listed in the T&C https://www.cnb.com/content/dam/cnbc...l-Benefits.pdf (page 51).
Last edited by EasternTraveler; Mar 2, 2019 at 5:58 pm
#2255
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: DFW
Posts: 50
Haha, I'm the epitome of lurker/researcher. I never felt I had anything worthwhile to add to the conversations. I'm happy to contribute if I have knowledge to share. However, I'm wiser now. I feel no shame in asking questions as long as people are kind with their responses.
#2257
Join Date: Sep 2018
Posts: 150
I had a similar issue with amex plat on delta. I think the answer may work out the same. I was allowed to select seats, even if upgraded seats in coach and get reimbursed. However, on the leg that I upgraded to comfort plus from coach, it coded as a class upgrade (not misc) and the charged did not reimburse. In my example, the flight was purchased separate from the seat selection and upgrade purchase.
#2259
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat
Posts: 15,721
AA $250 eGiftCerts:
- Primary card purchased 2/24; Credit issued 3/04
- Secondary card purchased 3/02 - Credit issued 3/08
Last edited by Boraxo; Mar 13, 2019 at 11:59 pm
#2260
Join Date: Apr 2015
Posts: 21
Purchased $150 AA e-gift card on 3/1. No rebate yet. All previous rebates for this year posted 7-9 days after purchase, it's now 10 days later with no rebate.
Update 3/12 rebate came through.
Update 3/12 rebate came through.
Last edited by terps_fan; Mar 12, 2019 at 7:24 am Reason: change to info
#2261
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: SFO
Programs: Hilton-Gold
Posts: 706
#2265
Join Date: Apr 2012
Programs: AA, UA, Hilton, Choice, Wyndham
Posts: 415
Totally random. I got two United tickets using the Visa air discount. It billed directly from United, with the two tickets charged separately, both earning 3x rewards. One for $171.60, one for $71.60 after the $100 off. The $71.60 auto credited from the airline incidentals program.
I got two Alaska tickets using the Visa air discount. A single charge for both tickets minus $100 posted from Travel Services, Calabasas CA. This charge did not earn 3x rewards.
I got two Alaska tickets using the Visa air discount. A single charge for both tickets minus $100 posted from Travel Services, Calabasas CA. This charge did not earn 3x rewards.