May 14, 2014, 1:15 pm
Last edit by: rrgg
This thread is a continuation of the discussion posted here from 12.08.2012 - 5.13.2014: Barclays Arrival/Arrival Cards (1.05%/2.1% travel credits)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Current offer for Arrival Plus is 70K pts w/$5K spend & AF waived 1st year.
Barclays says that you earn “miles” but you’re actually earning cash back with the card since you can’t transfer your Barclays miles to airlines. But you can redeem them for statement credits at 0.5 cents per mile (poor value) or 1.05 cent per mile if you redeem for travel.
You get 5% of your miles back if you redeem for travel, so 40,000 miles gets you $400 towards travel and 2,000 miles back (5% of your miles back). You must have at least 10K 'miles' in your acct if you wish to redeem as a travel credit. 2500 'miles' can be redeemed for a stmt credit though.
If you want, you can redeem miles to cover a portion of a travel charge instead of the full amount. For example, if you have 80k miles and a $740 airline charge, you can choose to redeem just 70k to cover $700 of the charge.
You earn 2X miles on all purchases, so you’re effectively getting 2% cash back for each purchase. But since you get 5% of your miles back when you redeem for travel, this is effectively a 2.1% cash back card when miles are redeemed for travel.
This makes the Barclaycard Arrival PlusTM World Elite MasterCard® (with 2.1% cash back for travel) better than the Capital One Venture card which offers only 2 miles per $1 or 2% cash back, only if you spend $30k+ per year after first year, because Arrival Plus AF is $30 more than Venture.
If you receive a call from 302-255-8000 after applying for this or any other Barclay's card, it is a legit number! You can also call them back directly at 866-951-1437.
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Note that there is an official procedure for company representatives to register themselves with the FlyerTalk Community Director and verify their credentials. When that process is completed, the username will turn green in posts, rather than the standard blue.
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Let's crowd source things that have counted towards travel redemptions that are not so obvious
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Don't forget travel purchase needs to be > $100 charge for 10K mile redemption
- 9/11 Museum and Memorial - NYC
- Accuracy Limo (via Square, Salt Lake City, UT limo service)
- ACE Adventures (West Virginia White Water Rafting), had to call in to get it processed manually
- agoda.com
- AirAsia Flights (airasia.com)
- airbnb bookings
- airbnb GC purchased on United MPX site
- Alaska Airlines checked baggage fee $25 charge
- Amazing Bike Tours Thailand
- AA Gift Card
- American Airlines telephone booking (including booking fee)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (ALB-NYP)
- Amtrak train ticket >$25 (unknown destinations)
- Arrival+ Annual Fee
- Argosy Cruises (SEA, classified as RECREATION)
- Autoeurope.com
- BART (Bay Area Rapid Transit) San Francisco
- Balloons over Bagan
- Bieber bus tickets
- Boston MBTA Charlie Card reload & Commuter Rail passes & tickets
- Burj Khalifa observation decks
- Buying Lifemiles from Avianca
- Capitaine Train Tickets (capitaine.com)
- Carmel Limo (NYC car service)
- carrentals.com
- cheaptickets.com hotel
- Chinese Visa Application Fees (had to call in. Credit showed up in account in 2 business days. See Post 912 and 921 for details)
- City Taxi (Tampa)
- CostcoTravel
- Cotai Waterjet (Hong Kong)
- CT Limo
- Daily Getaways purchase of HHonors points
- DB Bahn Trains Germany (bahn.de)
- Disneyland Hong Kong (Manual redemption required)
- DriveNow - all locations in EU/US
- Dublin Bus Tours Hop on, Hop off (Green)
- Eiffel Tower (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Empire State Building tickets
- Enterprise rent-a-car, paid at the counter when returning the car (used Chase United Visa initially for primary coverage, but asked to pay with a different card when returning the car)
- Eurostar Train Tickets (eurostar.com)
- Europcar.com
- Expedia.com
- Hertz Rent-a-Car (booked on hertz.com)
- Hong Kong Airport Express Pass
- Hotel bookings through Rocketmiles (even refundable bookings or those tied to other promotions)
- Hotels.com
- Hotwire
- ItaliaRail (online booking agency for TrenItalia)
- LA Swamp Tours, Steamboat cruise, Haunted History Tours (New Orleans)
- Lahaina-Maui Ferry Tickets - booked online at www.go-lanai.com
- Las Vegas Show Booked through hotel
Las Vegas show tickets booked online (Mandalay Bay Box office) - Limo Charges - Two limo charges that I made in March PRIOR the the recent changes to what qualifies as "Travel" showed up as eligible travel charges. I guess with the changes to what's covered, and for how long, these got pulled back in.
- Lyft
- M-Life advance reservation deposit
- Montway Auto Transport (deposit)
- New York City MTA Subway Cards
- New York Waterways Ferry (between NJ and NYC)
- Ngong Ping 360 (Hong Kong)
- Norwegian Cruise Line purchase made from telephone order from vacationstogo.com
- Norwegian Cruise Line (deposits and payments)
- NS Hispeed Train Tickets (nshispeed.com)
- NYC Taxi
- Orbitz.com purchase
- ORCA card for Seattle area tolls (considered the very typical GOVERNMENT SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Paris RATP Metro/VATP (buy 10-ticket pack for >$25 and save cost)
- PeruRail (Machu Picchu train)
- PMRF Beach Cottages (Kauai)
- Priceline
- Primetime Shuttle (Worked from LAX-SNA)
- rail europe on Travelocity
- rail JR Rail in Japan, load as tourist attraction, call in to get it credit (Post#938)
- Safari Helicopter Tour (Kauai)
- Sandals.com resort booking (unique vacations) was not redeemable last year. Is redeemable online now
- SEASTREAK LLC - NYC (Commuter Ferri)
- Singapore Cable Car
- Southwest $100 gift card
- Southwest Early Bird Check-in (billed separately from airfare charges)
- Spirit of NY Dinner Cruises - www.spiritcruises.com, which have cruises in several other cities as well.
- Starwood Vacation Ownership (SPG Timeshare) Westin Princeville Kauai (coded as Timeshare).
- St Pauls Cathedral (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Super Shuttle (mixed, worked in SF when (billed SUPERSHUTTLE EXECUCARS), worked in Boston (SUPERSHUTTLE BOSTON), failed in LA (SUPERSHUTTLE), Worked in Cancun.
- Taxi in Zürich
- Top of the Rock tickets - NYC
- Trenitalia Online
- Trimet (Portland OR public transportation)
- Trip Advisor Rental
- TurboJET (Hong Kong)
- Uber
- Uber GC through MPX $100 (re-confirmed 11/1/2018, using Arrival Premier)
- United Baggage Fee
- Universal Studio Orlando tickets (had to call in)
- Viator (sightseeing/tours)
- Victoria Clipper (passenger ferry)
- Wedding at the Stratosphere's Chapel in the Clouds (billed as stratosphere)
- Windsor Castle (manual redemption by phone allowed)
- Wine purchases from different wine tasting rooms
- WMATA (Washington DC Metro) - [[COLOR="Red"]reconfirmed 10/5/15]
- Zipcar
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Partial redemptions are possible - however you cannot redeem against that charge again. So if you have a $500 charge and you spend 40K points against it, you cannot redeem 10K points for the remaining $100 of that charge. - www.b-europe.com (SNCB rail)
- Amtrak (possibly due <$25 charge)
- Blue Water Rafting. Merchant category "Recreation Services -- Not elsewhere classified"
- Brazil airline GOL booked online codes as DIRECT MARKETING/DIRECT MARKETERS--NOT ELESWH ..
- Broadmoor Hotel Food and Beverage (Colorado Spring, CO)
- budgetair.co.uk (charged >$200)
- Car2go
- De Palm Tours, Aruba (classified as Recreation. Called Barclay twice.)
- Description: ZERVE *CA WHALES Merchant Category: THEATRICAL PRODUCERS (EXCEPT MOTION PICTURES), TICKET AGENCIES...Tickets to whale watching tour purchased over the phone.
- Evan Evans Sightseeing tours (UK based)- http://www.evanevanstours.co.uk
- Fastrak tag autoload for San Francisco bridge tolls ($25)
- Global Entry
- Gotobus.com Long Distance Buses, ~$100
- Homeaway.com, posts as real estate. Barclays said they'd make a one-time exception but future purchases won't count as travel.
- Hostelbookers.com deposit (maybe the charge which is >$25 will count?)
- Hotels.com Gift Card
- IHG points and cash hotel redemption
- Malaysian Overnight Train KUL-SIN (ktmb.com.my)
- Monterey Aquarium
- Parking at DCA - $136 (7/9/19)
- Parking at HSV ($96 in parking at Huntsville International Airport)
- Parking at IAH (Houston Intercontinental - on airport) -$76 (PARKING LOTS AND GARAGES)
- Parking at LAS
- Parking at LGA $204
- Parking at Port Imperial, Weehawken, NJ
- Parking at SNA (John Wayne Airport)
- San Francisco Clipper Card public transit (autoload from website)
- Skyjump at Stratosphere Hotel LV $150 (01/14) - not charged by hotel.
- Space Needle and Chihuly Garden Tickets
- Starwood points purchase (BUSINESS SERVICES NOT ELSEWHERE CLASSIFIED)
- Taxi Magic /Curb- Taxi service
- Thello train (France-Italy night train, codes as rail-freight)
- Trenitalia (both online and in stations, posts as rail-freight)
- UBER eGift Card (bought through the UBER app) for $100 - Not coded as "travel," so couldn't redeem online and they wouldn't do it over the phone, either.
Airlines that post purchases of multiple tickets as one amount or split them:
One Amount
BA (USD based award ticket)
Multiple Transactions
UA (award)
DL (award)
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
Jan 23, 2019, 2:35 pm
#4156
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,478
According to my spreadsheet it's been 1.74 years since I last cancelled my Barclays Arrival Plus card. Would it be safe to apply now for another or should I wait 2 years? I've lost track of Barclays rules. What are my chances of getting the signup bonus again? Also, are there any other offers for the Barclays Arrival other than the 70K points for 5K spend. Not sure I'm going to be able to meet a 5K spend in 3 months.
" Currently we are unable to offer you a credit card issued by Barclays Bank Delaware. Details on why we could not make you a credit offer will be mailed to you."
If Barclays is now 5/24 as some claim, that would explain things.
Jan 24, 2019, 8:45 am
#4157
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: BOS
Programs: AA EXP, DL PM, Hyatt Diamond
Posts: 2,028
Barclays is a weird bunch. i read all about their 6/24 rule but decided to go for it anyways. I've had the A+ twice before, most recently closed in June 2018. I am roughly 30/24 and have one other Barclays card open (M&M card opened in November).
I was instantly approved, with a low CL of $5k, but approved nonetheless. Don't know how or why but I'll take it.
I was instantly approved, with a low CL of $5k, but approved nonetheless. Don't know how or why but I'll take it.
Jan 26, 2019, 8:30 am
#4158
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: NYS
Programs: Days of Our Lives, General Hospital
Posts: 1,495
A friend and I applied online at the same time for the Arrival Plus card. Neither of us got instant approval. My friend, who is actually in a better financial position than I am, was declined about a day later, apparently because of too much debt to income. I was approved after three or four days. I had two recent inquiries on my credit report, both for the same automobile purchase. I'm not sure how I'll meet the spending requirement.
The CL is only $5,000. I have a $20,000 limit on another Barclays card (American Aviator, formerly USAirways Aviator) and could probably have them transfer some of it to the Arrival Plus card. I'm not eager to earn any more AA miles, because AA doesn't fly from my local airport.
The CL is only $5,000. I have a $20,000 limit on another Barclays card (American Aviator, formerly USAirways Aviator) and could probably have them transfer some of it to the Arrival Plus card. I'm not eager to earn any more AA miles, because AA doesn't fly from my local airport.
Jan 29, 2019, 9:54 am
#4159
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,478
Turns out I am at 7/24. Will have to check the wife's numbers.
EDIT: Turns out my wife was only 3/24. She applied and was instantly approved for $7,500.
@callmedtop, glad you got instantly approved at 30/24!
@kochleffel, glad you got approved and best of luck meeting the spend.
EDIT: Turns out my wife was only 3/24. She applied and was instantly approved for $7,500.
@callmedtop, glad you got instantly approved at 30/24!
@kochleffel, glad you got approved and best of luck meeting the spend.
Last edited by moretimeoffguy; Jan 29, 2019 at 2:34 pm
Jan 29, 2019, 10:40 pm
#4160
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MCI
Posts: 698
Wow so many variations of data points of people who are lol/24 approved and others who are way under x/24 getting denied.
I had an Arrivals+ card 2+ years go and it has been closed for quite some time now (should be 2yr+)
This language scares me:
https://cards.barclaycardus.com/bank...te-mastercard/
https://www.barclaycardus.com/applyc...Cs.jsp?tc39598
Since I've already been an Arrivals+ cardmember before, I assume I'm in their database and that I am not eligible for these bonuses? (The 2nd quote mentions clawback and even charging you for the fair value of the bonus miles!)
Hence I'm surprised to hear people who have had this card already in the past, getting it again. Do they just not enforce that rule very harshly?
I had an Arrivals+ card 2+ years go and it has been closed for quite some time now (should be 2yr+)
This language scares me:
Bonus Miles:Primary Cardmembers will earn 70,000 bonus miles if you use your new credit card account to make $5,000 in Net Purchases within ninety (90) days of your credit card account being opened. This one-time 70,000 miles offer is valid for first-time cardmembers with new accounts only. Existing cardmembers and existing accounts are not eligible for this offer. This is a limited time offer and may be cancelled at any time without notice.
From time to time, we may offer bonuses of miles or other incentives to new Barclaycard Arrival Plus Mastercard cardmembers in connection with an application for a new account. These bonuses and/or incentives are intended for persons who are not and have not previously been Barclaycard Arrival Plus Mastercard cardmembers. You understand and agree that you may no longer be eligible for any bonuses and/or incentives in connection with a new Barclaycard Arrival Plus Mastercard account after this Account is opened. If you receive a bonus or incentive for which you are not eligible due to your status as a current or former Barclaycard Arrival Plus Mastercard cardmember, we may revoke the bonus or incentive, or reduce your miles by the amount of the bonus or incentive, or charge your Account for the fair value of the bonus or incentive, in our sole discretion.
Since I've already been an Arrivals+ cardmember before, I assume I'm in their database and that I am not eligible for these bonuses? (The 2nd quote mentions clawback and even charging you for the fair value of the bonus miles!)
Hence I'm surprised to hear people who have had this card already in the past, getting it again. Do they just not enforce that rule very harshly?
Jan 30, 2019, 9:42 am
#4161
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,478
Since I've already been an Arrivals+ cardmember before, I assume I'm in their database and that I am not eligible for these bonuses? (The 2nd quote mentions clawback and even charging you for the fair value of the bonus miles!)
Hence I'm surprised to hear people who have had this card already in the past, getting it again. Do they just not enforce that rule very harshly?
Hence I'm surprised to hear people who have had this card already in the past, getting it again. Do they just not enforce that rule very harshly?
Jan 30, 2019, 11:15 am
#4162
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: MCI
Posts: 698
The thing that I'm thinking is that people can be approved and get the card....but approval of the card does not automatically = eligible for the bonus miles. The worst is if you use up a 5/24 slot and then you don't get the bonus miles.....so let's hope more data points come up with people who have had the card AND were still able to get the bonus even with the scary language.
Jan 30, 2019, 1:04 pm
#4163
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,478
Got my rejection letter from Barclays. The reason given was "The number of bankcards opened within the last 24 months." That's for 7/24.
That's why I plan on having my wife call customer service after activating the card and asking about bonus eligibility.
but approval of the card does not automatically = eligible for the bonus miles.
Feb 2, 2019, 7:35 am
#4164
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: SAN
Programs: HH (Dia), Bonvoy (Plat), IHG (Plat)
Posts: 244
Do redeemed miles subtract from minimum spend and cause a clawback?
I've been hunting through this thread for the answer to this question to no avail (if anyone can suggest a different search term I should have used, I would appreciate it).
I was just approved for the Arrival Plus 70k bonus. I plan on spending over a thousand dollars on JRail passes for myself and my family next month. This will help me meet the minimum spend. After the points post, I plan on defraying the cost of the JR passes by applying the bonus points to the cost ($700, or rather $800 once the points from the minimum spend post). This will subtract $800 from the total amount I've spent so far on the card and take it down to $4200.
Will this cause any problems if I leave the amount spent on the card at $4200? I haven't seen any reports of clawbacks even on refunded tickets, so I'm guessing this will be all right, but I wanted to see what other people have to say. I'd rather not put an additional $800 spend on the card if I don't have to.
I was just approved for the Arrival Plus 70k bonus. I plan on spending over a thousand dollars on JRail passes for myself and my family next month. This will help me meet the minimum spend. After the points post, I plan on defraying the cost of the JR passes by applying the bonus points to the cost ($700, or rather $800 once the points from the minimum spend post). This will subtract $800 from the total amount I've spent so far on the card and take it down to $4200.
Will this cause any problems if I leave the amount spent on the card at $4200? I haven't seen any reports of clawbacks even on refunded tickets, so I'm guessing this will be all right, but I wanted to see what other people have to say. I'd rather not put an additional $800 spend on the card if I don't have to.
Feb 2, 2019, 8:21 am
#4165
Join Date: Feb 2019
Posts: 12
I've been hunting through this thread for the answer to this question to no avail (if anyone can suggest a different search term I should have used, I would appreciate it).
I was just approved for the Arrival Plus 70k bonus. I plan on spending over a thousand dollars on JRail passes for myself and my family next month. This will help me meet the minimum spend. After the points post, I plan on defraying the cost of the JR passes by applying the bonus points to the cost ($700, or rather $800 once the points from the minimum spend post). This will subtract $800 from the total amount I've spent so far on the card and take it down to $4200.
Will this cause any problems if I leave the amount spent on the card at $4200? I haven't seen any reports of clawbacks even on refunded tickets, so I'm guessing this will be all right, but I wanted to see what other people have to say. I'd rather not put an additional $800 spend on the card if I don't have to.
I was just approved for the Arrival Plus 70k bonus. I plan on spending over a thousand dollars on JRail passes for myself and my family next month. This will help me meet the minimum spend. After the points post, I plan on defraying the cost of the JR passes by applying the bonus points to the cost ($700, or rather $800 once the points from the minimum spend post). This will subtract $800 from the total amount I've spent so far on the card and take it down to $4200.
Will this cause any problems if I leave the amount spent on the card at $4200? I haven't seen any reports of clawbacks even on refunded tickets, so I'm guessing this will be all right, but I wanted to see what other people have to say. I'd rather not put an additional $800 spend on the card if I don't have to.
Feb 2, 2019, 8:51 am
#4166
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 6,752
Had the Arrival Plus 4 or 5 years ago, and, being me, app'ed without bothering to read the T&C. Will provide data point on (1) if I get the bonus, and (2) potential clawback scenarios.
Feb 2, 2019, 11:39 am
#4167
Join Date: Jun 2006
Programs: UA Premier 1K, Star Alliance Gold, Titanium Elite Marriott, Celebrity Elite, IHG, Hilton Diamond
Posts: 343
Barclays Arrival Plus, now 70K w/$5k spend
If you have to spend $5,000 make good use of it by paying your water and gas utilities bills for one or two years in advance where you don't have to worry about clawbacks and buying things you don't need at this time.
Feb 3, 2019, 11:20 pm
#4168
Join Date: Aug 2018
Posts: 206
Is the buying Uber gift cards through the United mileage app still a thing?
Feb 4, 2019, 5:14 pm
#4169
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: RDU
Posts: 1,478
Thanks for the suggestion breakthrough. So, my wife got her card today. After activation, I had her call customer service to confirm what the bonus and terms were. They just read off the 70K points for a 5K spend in 3 months verbiage. No warning about not being eligible for the bonus. That's encouraging but not conclusive. So we'll see what happens.
Feb 4, 2019, 5:33 pm
#4170
Join Date: Feb 2015
Posts: 319
Thanks for the suggestion breakthrough. So, my wife got her card today. After activation, I had her call customer service to confirm what the bonus and terms were. They just read off the 70K points for a 5K spend in 3 months verbiage. No warning about not being eligible for the bonus. That's encouraging but not conclusive. So we'll see what happens.