SamirD

This is incorrect. There are always attestations that one must commit perjury to fly if Covid+, which would be in violation of the airline carrier agreement.

One thing that may happen that wouldn't be the end of the world is if T1 negative tests are required for ALL flights with destinations in the US, international or domestic. That would cut down on the covid flyers (and problem flyers as well).

sbandy

Negative test one day prior (similar to international inbounds) is unlikely to happen. There isn't enough testing infrastructure in many parts of the country to support this. I can find test sites easily where I am (DC metro), but when I visit family in western NY the usual providers like CVS etc only offer PCR and do not offer any rapid tests. There are some entities (similar to XpresCheck) which offer crazy expensive fast PCR mostly for travel to Canada. They also offer rapid tests which are also quite expensive. Rapid tests adminstered by trained personnel and covered by insurance is hard to access in many places.

SamirD

While unlikely, it wouldn't be that tough actually as I've found rapid testing almost everywhere--even in the small towns where I have to go. RT-PCR is still tough for sure though. Insurance coverage is another thing, but you can always manually file a claim and get reimbursed.

stupidhead

Wouldn't be the end of the world, it would just be a colossal waste of time, money and resources that would accomplish nothing. It's almost as if you work for a test manufacturer.

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SamirD

I don't think it would be a waste of time. I don't work for a test manufacturer--I lost my dad to covid even after tremendous precautions to keep us away from all the covid zombies.

It would have been nice to ship everyone that didn't want to try to keep their fellow citizens safe to PR and other territories. Then at least my dad would still be here.

But as you mentioned, not much of a chance of required testing measures for domestic flights so let the 1M+ death toll pile on and on and on...

ExpatExp

I thought it has always been prohibited by the CoC of major US airlines to take a commercial flight if one has a communicable disease?

GUWonder

Depends on the communicable disease.

ExpatExp

Is Covid one of them?

SamirD

It's not insane, it's a speed-bump in the rearview mirror of your life. People have wasted more than a year's time doing things that would not have contributed to saving lives, which is what people in that one year would have been doing. I did it and continue to do it. I don't understand how others cannot do it knowing that otherwise their actions can contribute to the death of another human being.

It's not like this is forever, which is what the 'new normal' and other memes have ingrained into people's heads--I'm very confident that this will all be gone at the end of 3 years as every other pandemic has in the past, even with the changes in time, technology, etc. And I told myself this from the onset in Jan of 2020 when my dad and I locked down hard. It's just setting your eyes on the goal and not being wavered, which anyone here earning status knows exactly how to do.

the810

I would argue that US government forcing airlines to require tests from US nationals travelling to the US because the government itself can't legally require them is a loophole itself. So if combining flights + land border crossing is a loophole, it's only to circumvent loophole used by the government.

Governments should always set example when it comes to following the spirit of the law. If they don't, they can't expect citizens to do it either.

RedChili

Add to that the fact that current tests are unreliable, and every day you've got plenty of tourists flying to the US with false negative tests, and plenty of US citizens denied boarding due to false positive tests, by ground handling staff that are not US citizens.

Smiley90

Aside from a lot of unsourced claims, what does the citizenship of the ground handling staff have to do with.. anything?

Boraxo

data point from Mexico: unlike USA tests were available everywhere in Cancun - both antigen and PCR - all at a reasonable cost. By everywhere I mean booths every block in the hotel zone. Result are emailed within 15 minutes for antigen. Many hotels also have rooms set up to provide tests to guests.

At the airport the airline checks your test results then hands the papers back to you. That’s the end of it. Quick and easy.

Of course nobody asks any questions when you deplane in the USA as a negative test is not required to enter the country, only to board a plane that originated outside USA.

I’m not. Flying with covid is morally reprehensible. You could kill someone. A bit different than flying with the flu or a common cold. If you are so seriously ill that you need to fly for treatment elsewhere there is medevac insurance that covers special flights with proper safety protocols.

But we are delving into Omni territory.

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vanillabean

The within 1 day of departure requirement worked well for me just a few days ago. I got an antigen test in Denmark for free on my way to morning coffee on the day before departure, and upon arrival at SFO I merely had to look at a Global Entry face recognition stand for a second or two. That was about it. The wait at Kaiser for me to get a PCR test though is two weeks.