EU to impose entry requirements on travellers From US (updated 30 Aug)
#271
Join Date: Apr 2014
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As a data point, I flew from the US to AMS via the UK prior to the new rules. UK is on the very high risk area which the USA will be on. I was exempt from mandatory self quarantine as I was only transiting in the UK and did not leave the airport. I felt as if the mandatory quarantine is based on the honor system. There was no one at the gate monitoring or tracking passengers and once in AMS airport there was no separation between passengers from safe countries and non safe countries. Border patrol did not ask for proof of my exemption. There could be the remote possibility that everyone on the LHR to AMS flight was transiting in UK from safe countries and so no mandatory quarantine from anyone was required.
#272
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands
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Yup. There are no systematic checks for Covid-19 documentation at AMS (or any of the other border crossings into the Netherlands ), just spot checks when they feel like it. (which is not very often based on my own experience and that of friends and relatives)
In general, almost all intra-Schengen land borders are open as usual. Of the dozens of stories I heard from friends and family driving around Europe this summer, I heard just one case of a intra-Schengen border check: at a rural, obscure border crossing between Estonia and Latvia.
In general, almost all intra-Schengen land borders are open as usual. Of the dozens of stories I heard from friends and family driving around Europe this summer, I heard just one case of a intra-Schengen border check: at a rural, obscure border crossing between Estonia and Latvia.
Last edited by Sjoerd; Sep 5, 2021 at 3:00 am
#273
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The Dutch seem to have decided that a compulsory 10 days quarantine - with a negative after 5 days allowing early release - from yesterday.
Online forms and paper forms must be completed but it looks like my trip from the UK in two weeks is toast.
Online forms and paper forms must be completed but it looks like my trip from the UK in two weeks is toast.
#274
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 67
Various exemptions are in place such as
"Entry from Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway is not subject to any entry restrictions.”
or something like "have close family ties as specified in” ...
https://www.government.se/articles/2...ban-to-sweden/
So if you’re an American married to say a Dane, you can enter Denmark and subsequently Sweden. There’s some room for your imagination.
"Entry from Denmark, Finland, Iceland and Norway is not subject to any entry restrictions.”
or something like "have close family ties as specified in” ...
https://www.government.se/articles/2...ban-to-sweden/
So if you’re an American married to say a Dane, you can enter Denmark and subsequently Sweden. There’s some room for your imagination.
Last edited by CBS; Sep 5, 2021 at 10:42 am
#275
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 3,642
As far as I can tell, you still need to fill in the quarantine declaration and state why you are exempted.
When you look at the exemption categories, the transit exemption says you have to stay at the airport (or train station etc.): https://www.government.nl/topics/cor...ory-quarantine
edit: It's actually a bit confusing since there's a separate 12 hour exemption as well as the transit exemption. The 12 hour exemption does not seem to say anything about staying at the airport. It's very unlikely that you would get checked, but there's the potential legal way to do it.
When you look at the exemption categories, the transit exemption says you have to stay at the airport (or train station etc.): https://www.government.nl/topics/cor...ory-quarantine
edit: It's actually a bit confusing since there's a separate 12 hour exemption as well as the transit exemption. The 12 hour exemption does not seem to say anything about staying at the airport. It's very unlikely that you would get checked, but there's the potential legal way to do it.
#276
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Dallas, TX
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Swedens requirements are truly baffling - particularly allowing entry from Nordic countries without any qualifications, such as minimum stay in those countries. A non-swede cannot enter from the US without an exceptional reason. But a vaccinated non-Swedish resident of the US (or any OECD) country can fly to Copenhagen, enter without any testing or registration, and immediately proceed to Sweden (apparently even on a connecting ticket) without issue.
Will report back.
#277
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: STL
Posts: 1,546
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sweden is only banning Americans who fly directly from the US, yet as far as I can tell, there are no non-stop flights from the US to ARN currently operating right now. So then who are they actually banning? Americans who fly to Sweden on a private jet? Americans who transit in LHR instead of a Schengen country? Americans who swim to Sweden?
#278
Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sweden is only banning Americans who fly directly from the US, yet as far as I can tell, there are no non-stop flights from the US to ARN currently operating right now. So then who are they actually banning? Americans who fly to Sweden on a private jet? Americans who transit in LHR instead of a Schengen country? Americans who swim to Sweden?
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...r=USD&hl=en-US
#279
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: STL
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There's an SK flight leaving from EWR tomorrow afternoon for ARN:
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...r=USD&hl=en-US
https://www.google.com/travel/flight...r=USD&hl=en-US
#280
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: SFO
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sweden is only banning Americans who fly directly from the US, yet as far as I can tell, there are no non-stop flights from the US to ARN currently operating right now. So then who are they actually banning? Americans who fly to Sweden on a private jet? Americans who transit in LHR instead of a Schengen country? Americans who swim to Sweden?
Correction: I misread OECD as EU; US is a member of OECD, so no worthy purpose needed if fully vaccinated.
Last edited by vanillabean; Sep 5, 2021 at 11:30 pm
#281
Join Date: Aug 2021
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It would appear that SK903 from ARN arrived at EWR a couple of hours ago. Which reminds me that a few weeks ago I noticed not one, but two SK flights on the ground at EWR. Given the 24 hour rule is still in place, I'm itching to make a reservation for tomorrow to see what happens.
Swimming across from Copenhagen would be a safer bet! That aside, being vaccinated by itself is no longer good enough to enter Denmark.
Swimming across from Copenhagen would be a safer bet! That aside, being vaccinated by itself is no longer good enough to enter Denmark.
#282
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but Sweden is only banning Americans who fly directly from the US, yet as far as I can tell, there are no non-stop flights from the US to ARN currently operating right now. So then who are they actually banning? Americans who fly to Sweden on a private jet? Americans who transit in LHR instead of a Schengen country? Americans who swim to Sweden?
#283
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Join Date: Mar 2014
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Okay I'll play and say not. Simply because of this from TIMATIC which states US residents can enter until 5 Sept.
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
https://www.iatatravelcentre.com/world.php
#284
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 67
It is truly baffling; I said F it and I am going to try and fly to ARN tomorrow from LAX connecting in ZRH. Let's see if LX stops me at LAX or lets me get through (which meets the letter of the law due to the ZRH transit). I have PCR tests and Vaccine certificates with me.
Will report back.
Will report back.
Sweden has, IMO, concocted the most complicated and least logical set of rules of all of Europe - our CDC vaccine cards are no longer an authorized equivalent to the EU digital certificate for entering from a non-Nordic EEU country, but if we fly from Iceland, whose geographical and economic connection to Sweden is fairly remote, we don’t need to show proof of anything. The new Berlin-Stockholm night train would seemingly be OK, as it transits Denmark. Perhaps something magical happens just north of Flensburg?
#285
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