Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
Jun 19, 2021, 3:27 pm
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Jun 19, 2021, 3:57 pm
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Jun 20, 2021, 9:52 am
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Same here in London, no choice of the jab brand (between those approved by the MHRA) you get.
Jun 20, 2021, 11:42 am
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Actually, quite a few London boroughs and their CCG's are now advertising which jab is offered at which site. Perhaps they've come round to the idea that it's better to be open with people, than to deal with the potential vaccine wastage when people aren't happy with what they have been offered and walk out.
Jun 20, 2021, 11:46 am
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The United Kingdom is *not* America though. We can’t walk down and get the cream of the crop of vaccines, nor are our second dose vaccines delivered after three weeks. It’s a whole process that is very slow, partly because we don’t have the purchasing power to buy excessive amounts of vaccines.
Last edited by Owenc; Jun 20, 2021 at 11:54 am
Jun 20, 2021, 11:49 am
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First post on FlyerTalk, so I can't post the link, but Delta CEO Ed Bastian was interviewed by Fox Business recently and made some interesting comments. The relevant section of the article can be found below:
The name of the article, should you wish to verify the excerpt above, is "Delta CEO expects business travel to return to pre-pandemic levels July 1", published 17th June 2021.
Bastian also said international bookings have been "very strong," especially to European countries like France, Greece, Portugal, Spain and Italy. In return, he encouraged the U.S. to welcome back visitors from Europe and the U.K.
"We’re working closely with the administration and the authorities about creating a corridor for travel between the U.S. and the U.K," he said. "And hopefully we'll be seeing that start soon."
"We’re working closely with the administration and the authorities about creating a corridor for travel between the U.S. and the U.K," he said. "And hopefully we'll be seeing that start soon."
Jun 20, 2021, 12:01 pm
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First post on FlyerTalk, so I can't post the link, but Delta CEO Ed Bastian was interviewed by Fox Business recently and made some interesting comments. The relevant section of the article can be found below:
The name of the article, should you wish to verify the excerpt above, is "Delta CEO expects business travel to return to pre-pandemic levels July 1", published 17th June 2021.
The name of the article, should you wish to verify the excerpt above, is "Delta CEO expects business travel to return to pre-pandemic levels July 1", published 17th June 2021.
Jun 20, 2021, 12:11 pm
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I would be surprised if, at this point, one were to be opened without the other. After a rough start, the EU vaccine programme has driven case rates down on the continent and Americans are flying to and from popular European destinations already.
Jun 20, 2021, 12:17 pm
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Yes exactly, reciprocity dictates that now EU has "announced" opening to US tourists, US should open to Schengen tourists very soon!
Jun 20, 2021, 12:28 pm
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Well most of the large EU countries are now open to the US, without reciprocity.
Jun 20, 2021, 12:33 pm
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Yes, some of them opened in mid-May, but only a few days ago there was the "official" EU announcement.
And it would be a blunder for EU to accept US to have its borders closed to EU tourists for much longer. Especially now with a "EU-friendly" US president.
And it would be a blunder for EU to accept US to have its borders closed to EU tourists for much longer. Especially now with a "EU-friendly" US president.
Jun 20, 2021, 12:35 pm
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Just in the last couple of days, Italy and Germany made it official. So along with France and Spain, most of the biggest tourist destinations are open to American tourists.
So the big EU countries didn't wait for reciprocity.
Hope it comes but obviously it wasn't their top priority.
So the big EU countries didn't wait for reciprocity.
Hope it comes but obviously it wasn't their top priority.
Jun 20, 2021, 12:42 pm
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I am assuming US-EU leaders discussed this already and that there is already an agreement in place which is not public.
If EU leaders just accepted a one-way opening, sure it helps EU's tourism sector, but it would officially stigmatize EU with a failure to control the pandemic.
If EU leaders just accepted a one-way opening, sure it helps EU's tourism sector, but it would officially stigmatize EU with a failure to control the pandemic.
Jun 20, 2021, 1:54 pm
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They come, they go. Their money stays with you, and they don't get any of your money. Sounds like a good deal from a mercantilist point of view! =)
Jun 20, 2021, 1:57 pm
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"We’re working closely with the administration and the authorities about creating a corridor for travel between the U.S. and the U.K,
I wouldn't give any credence to an airline CEO. His job is to make his shareholders happy.