Last edit by: NewbieRunner
New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
#721
Join Date: Jul 2018
Posts: 94
If they're not open by September, I don't think they ever will again. My understanding is by then all 18+ in UK will be full vaccinated. Europe will be what 75% There? As someone famously said above.. If not now, when? Lack of communication is so frustrating. Myself and my family are chomping at the bit to get back out. I've had a carrier opportunity scrapped due to uncertainty on the US borders.
#722
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: PVG, FRA, SEA, HEL
Programs: UA Premier Gold
Posts: 4,783
With Jen's statement we can say good bye to any hope of reopening this June or July.
When talking about August or September - all bets are off.
What is really telling: US airlines are starting the PR war on the lifting of the travel bans. That tells you that the US administration is really serious in not reopening anytime soon - why else start the PR campaign?
When talking about August or September - all bets are off.
What is really telling: US airlines are starting the PR war on the lifting of the travel bans. That tells you that the US administration is really serious in not reopening anytime soon - why else start the PR campaign?
Last edited by warakorn; Jun 7, 2021 at 8:21 am
#723
Suspended
Join Date: Feb 2009
Programs: DL, UA, AA, VS
Posts: 5,226
With Jen's statement we can say good bye to any hope of reopening this June or July.
When talking about August or September - all bets are off.
What is really telling: US airlines are starting the PR war on the lifting of the travel bans. That tells you that the US administration is really serious in reopening anytime soon - why else start the PR campaign?
When talking about August or September - all bets are off.
What is really telling: US airlines are starting the PR war on the lifting of the travel bans. That tells you that the US administration is really serious in reopening anytime soon - why else start the PR campaign?
#724
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 125
I found this an interesting read: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...heads-britain/
I honestly think we might get a US-UK corridor of sorts out of G7. Possibly in time for July 4.
“The two leaders are expected to discuss trade deals, challenges from China and Russia, and Covid travel restrictions. Major airlines in America and Britain have called on the pair to reopen transatlantic travel for this Summer.”
#725
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: DCA/IAD
Programs: AS, US, Hilton, BA, DL, SPG, AA, VS
Posts: 1,628
I found this an interesting read: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...heads-britain/
I honestly think we might get a US-UK corridor of sorts out of G7. Possibly in time for July 4.
I honestly think we might get a US-UK corridor of sorts out of G7. Possibly in time for July 4.
Last edited by LETTERBOY; Jun 7, 2021 at 6:27 am Reason: typo
#726
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
With the Delta variant in the UK, I doubt that a travel corridor between the USA & the UK would come soon.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
#727
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Milan, Italy
Programs: Skymiles
Posts: 271
With the Delta variant in the UK, I doubt that a travel corridor between the USA & the UK would come soon.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
#728
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
It's the countries that opened their borders for US citizens/residents that want them to come.
#729
Join Date: Jan 2021
Location: Milan, Italy
Programs: Skymiles
Posts: 271
If you do not want your fellow citizens to go abroad on vacation, you prohibit it, as did the UK and many other European countries and beyond. Very very simple.
#730
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
Although, they leave it up to their citizens/residents to follow the advise or not.
#732
Suspended
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Canada, USA, Europe
Programs: UA 1K
Posts: 31,452
I found this an interesting read: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...heads-britain/
I honestly think we might get a US-UK corridor of sorts out of G7. Possibly in time for July 4.
I honestly think we might get a US-UK corridor of sorts out of G7. Possibly in time for July 4.
#733
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Kent, UK
Programs: BA Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Gold, UA Premier Platinum
Posts: 125
With the Delta variant in the UK, I doubt that a travel corridor between the USA & the UK would come soon.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
I'm sorry but in the side of the UK, Boris Johnson doesn't seem that he wants to open his country to foreigners or wants his citizens to travel abroad; on the other hand, the Biden administration doesn't have any intention as well.
It's just the media and the travel sector making speculations.
#734
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: Istanbul, Turkey
Programs: TK Elite Plus,BAEC GGL,ITA Executive, AFKL Gold,QR Gold,HH Diamond,Bonvoy Gold,ALL Gold
Posts: 14,186
You really think the variant isn’t everywhere else? Shouldn’t really be punishing the UK for being good at sequencing. If Biden was that concerned he shouldn’t be coming over here for G7. This ban is no longer about science and quite frankly I don’t understand the negative mindset of so many of the posters on here, particularly given the majority on here share a love of flying and travel.
For this case, people in Europe should still be grateful that they could travel to the USA with after a 14 day stay in Mexico, Serbia, Turkey, The Caribbean, etc...
If things were better in the UK, why doesn't any other country build a travel corridor with the UK? Why should the USA be the first country to implement a travel corridor concept with the UK? Sorry, we need to be objective here and look at the situation in all perspectives.
#735
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: Northern Ireland
Posts: 722
Things are better? What do you mean? We’ve vaccinated over 50% of the adult population already.