Sep 15, 2021, 1:47 pm
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New thread for discussing 1-day test requirements for travellers arriving in the US by air
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/coronavirus-travel/2060730-us-require-air-travelers-provide-negative-test-within-1-day-departure.html
Entry ban from eight southern African countries starting on November 29, 2021
Most non-U.S. citizens who have been in South Africa, Botswana, Zimbabwe, Namibia, Lesotho, Eswatini, Mozambique or Malaw within the prior 14 days will not be allowed into the United States.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/11/26/a-proclamation-on-suspension-of-entry-as-immigrants-and-nonimmigrants-of-certain-additional-persons-who-pose-a-risk-of-transmitting-coronavirus-disease-2019/
Entry ban by air to be lifted on November 8, 2021 - All travelers should refer to CDC for travel requirements.
3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue (US citizens/LPR not vaccinated will have to test no earlier than 1 day prior) Children under 2 years old do not need to test.
Children under 18 are exempt from vaccination requirement
Accepted vaccines will include:
- AstraZeneca
- BIBP/Sinopharm
- Covishield
- Janssen/J&J
- Moderna
- Pfizer-BioNTech
- Sinovac
There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old
Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases
Update on U.S. travel policy requiring COVID-19 vaccination
Last Updated: October 25, 2021
As announced by the White House today, the new travel policy requiring foreign nationals traveling to the United States to demonstrate proof of full vaccination against COVID-19 will take effect November 8. The CDC’s website explains that, for purposes of entry into the United States, the accepted vaccines will include FDA approved or authorized and WHO Emergency Use Listing vaccines.
COVID-19 Travel Restrictions and Exceptions - U.S. Department of State, Bureau of Consular Affairs
Last updated: October 25, 2021
The presidential proclamations described on this page will no longer be in effect on November 8, 2021. For additional information, please see Safely Resuming Travel by Vaccine Requirement and Rescission of Travel Restrictions on Brazil, China, India, Iran, Ireland, the Schengen Area, South Africa, and the United Kingdom (travel.state.gov).
To protect the public health, there are four presidential proclamations that suspend entry into the United States of all noncitizens who were physically present in any of 33 countries during the 14-day period preceding their entry or attempted entry into the United States. They are Presidential Proclamation 9984 (China); Presidential Proclamation 9992 (Iran); Presidential Proclamation 10143 (Schengen Area, United Kingdom, Ireland, Brazil, and South Africa); and Presidential Proclamation 10199 (India).
What we know so far is
- Confirmed to start on 8 November
- Children under 18 are exempt from the vaccine restrictions, so the varying international standards on jab ages won't be an issue here.
- Vaccines that are OK will include Pfizer, Moderna, AZ, J&J and the two Chinese vaccines.
- Some exemptions from vaccinations are potentially allowed, notably for US citizens, though my guess is airlines will be expecting to see vaccine certificates
- 3 day pre-flight testing requirement will continue, so this needs to be a documented antigen/Lateral Flow test or PCR.
- 3 days is potentially more than 72 hours, departure on a Friday afternoon means a test on Tuesday morning or thereafter.
- NHS Lateral Flows and PCRs can't be used.
- Children over 2 years old travelling with vaccinated travellers have to be tested on the same basis (3 days).
- 1 day testing for unvaccinated USA legal residents (testing on or the day before departure), including their children.
- All passengers need to sign an attestment to confirm their negative test result and also a statement to confirm full vaccination status.
- Children who are not vaccinated do not need to get vaccinated but do need to get a "viral test" 3 to 5 days after arrival in the USA
- As a result there is a separate attestion question for unvaccinated children to confirm that the viral test is arranged.
- Vaccination certificates must come from an official source. The NHS COVID Pass app and EU DCC are specifically mentioned as acceptable.
- Vaccination is counted as two weeks from dose2, or 2 weeks after the sole dose in the case of J&J.
- Antibody certification is not a replacement for the need for vaccination, at least for non USA residents.
- 14 clear days need to elapse before travel. So if jabbed on 1 October then 15 October is when you are good to go.
- Booster vaccinations are not a factor here, they don't count towards or against the primary dose process.
- There is a face mask mandate when flying to/from the USA, with effectively no exemptions, and including children two and above years old.
- Airlines need to provide some sort of contact tracing information for potential follow-up cases.
- These restrictions do not apply at the land border.
Note that a lot of interpretation onus falls on airlines. For example there is no language requirement for vaccine certificates as far as the CDC is concerned, however you can imagine Air France may be hesitant in accepting a vaccine certificate issued in the Welsh language, to take one example.
CDC link
https://www.cdc.gov/media/releases/2...el-System.html
US reopened on 8 November 2021 (& subsequent entry restrictions for non-citizens)
Jun 7, 2021, 4:45 am
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Given what’s been going on with UK policy with regard to UK travelers visiting Portugal in recent days, some may question the sensibility of advancing a US opening to the UK and the Schengen area during the same week when UK travelers to Portugal have been in a sudden rush to get back to the UK to avoid a UK policy change hitting them on their return home to the UK. Isn’t the Indian/Delta variant now the leading variant of spread of this virus in the UK already? I would be very much surprised if this variant isn’t in greater concentration among cases in the UK than it is in cases in the US so far.
We are a week into June. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US doesn’t open up the door to further travel by Europeans from Europe until closer to or after the Fourth of July.
We are a week into June. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US doesn’t open up the door to further travel by Europeans from Europe until closer to or after the Fourth of July.
Jun 7, 2021, 4:59 am
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Given what’s been going on with UK policy with regard to UK travelers visiting Portugal in recent days, some may question the sensibility of advancing a US opening to the UK and the Schengen area during the same week when UK travelers to Portugal have been in a sudden rush to get back to the UK to avoid a UK policy change hitting them on their return home to the UK. Isn’t the Indian/Delta variant now the leading variant of spread of this virus in the UK already? I would be very much surprised if this variant isn’t in greater concentration among cases in the UK than it is in cases in the US so far.
We are a week into June. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US doesn’t open up the door to further travel by Europeans from Europe until closer to or after the Fourth of July.
We are a week into June. I wouldn’t be surprised if the US doesn’t open up the door to further travel by Europeans from Europe until closer to or after the Fourth of July.
Last minute update from EU speaker:
https://www.corriere.it/salute/21_giugno_07/coronavirus-ultime-notizie-dall-italia-mondo-covid-d853eb68-c757-11eb-9c4c-4cf000dece4f.shtml
1.15 pm - EU, American tourists can come if vaccinated
American citizens can enter Europe if vaccinated. A spokesman for the EU Commission said so. "Unvaccinated Americans cannot come to the EU for non-essential reasons, but on May 20 the Council approved our recommendations suggesting that vaccinated travelers can" come for non-essential reasons "after 14 days of the last dose. The official said. "Among these also the Americans." "It is true - concluded the spokesman - that there are ongoing negotiations with the United States on the mutual recognition of the vaccination certificate".
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Jun 7, 2021, 6:19 am
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I agree, however I also believe that the United States have never even considered opening to Europeans before July and this regardless of the Delta variant, which at the very least can be an excuse to keep going for another month. Honestly, I do not think that, with the vaccination campaign rising rapidly in Europe, the cases in constant decline and most of the European countries that have already opened or will soon open to vaccinated American tourists, for these reasons I sincerely believe that not have plenty of excuses to go beyond July.
Last minute update from EU speaker:
https://www.corriere.it/salute/21_giugno_07/coronavirus-ultime-notizie-dall-italia-mondo-covid-d853eb68-c757-11eb-9c4c-4cf000dece4f.shtml
1.15 pm - EU, American tourists can come if vaccinated
American citizens can enter Europe if vaccinated. A spokesman for the EU Commission said so. "Unvaccinated Americans cannot come to the EU for non-essential reasons, but on May 20 the Council approved our recommendations suggesting that vaccinated travelers can" come for non-essential reasons "after 14 days of the last dose. The official said. "Among these also the Americans." "It is true - concluded the spokesman - that there are ongoing negotiations with the United States on the mutual recognition of the vaccination certificate".
Last minute update from EU speaker:
https://www.corriere.it/salute/21_giugno_07/coronavirus-ultime-notizie-dall-italia-mondo-covid-d853eb68-c757-11eb-9c4c-4cf000dece4f.shtml
1.15 pm - EU, American tourists can come if vaccinated
American citizens can enter Europe if vaccinated. A spokesman for the EU Commission said so. "Unvaccinated Americans cannot come to the EU for non-essential reasons, but on May 20 the Council approved our recommendations suggesting that vaccinated travelers can" come for non-essential reasons "after 14 days of the last dose. The official said. "Among these also the Americans." "It is true - concluded the spokesman - that there are ongoing negotiations with the United States on the mutual recognition of the vaccination certificate".
Jun 7, 2021, 8:11 am
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I agree, however I also believe that the United States have never even considered opening to Europeans before July and this regardless of the Delta variant, which at the very least can be an excuse to keep going for another month. Honestly, I do not think that, with the vaccination campaign rising rapidly in Europe, the cases in constant decline and most of the European countries that have already opened or will soon open to vaccinated American tourists, for these reasons I sincerely believe that not have plenty of excuses to go beyond July.
In addition, while there is ample evidence to have confidence in these vaccines’ real world effectiveness mimicking that of their respective clinical trials, in my view, we should nonetheless closely monitor the data over the next several weeks, especially as travel has begun to reopen here in the States where it’s virtually unrestricted. Hopefully, we can have some granularity on how effective these vaccines are against these variants/mutations. It would also be illuminating to see how the UK is faring as the Delta variant begins to gain traction there.
Assuming we hit close to the 70% goal and cases continue to trend in the right direction, there would be no more excuses to keep the ban in place.
Jun 7, 2021, 8:23 am
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It's all or nothing with Biden.
He is not going to open for the UK, while keeping Schengen zone closed.
Either he opens all or nothing.
He is not going to open for the UK, while keeping Schengen zone closed.
Either he opens all or nothing.
Jun 7, 2021, 8:27 am
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A reasonable and generous interpretation could be that the Admin is presently focused on meeting Pres Biden’s goal of 70% vaccination penetration, and reticent to potentially introduce the Delta variant before those remaining Americans, for whatever reason, with vaccine hesitancy are given a chance to get that first jab.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:16 am
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Interesting article: https://www.ouest-france.fr/economie...9-ca1124b88d20 translation below:
Welcoming tourists: Europe demands "reciprocity" from the United States
Europe is demanding "reciprocity" from the United States in terms of welcoming European tourists, particularly with regard to quarantine, as part of the easing of restrictions related to Covid-19, said this Monday, June 7 on RTL the European Commissioner for the Internal Market, Thierry Breton.
Questioned this Monday, June 7, on RTL about tourism, the European Commissioner for Internal Market, Thierry Breton, said he would have "a meeting this evening with [his] American counterpart, the person in charge of American vaccines, to discuss precisely this issue" of welcoming Americans in Europe, and vice versa.
"We already welcome American tourists from the moment they are vaccinated, from the moment they have had the two doses and we have waited the 15 days. I insist that we want reciprocity, and I will talk about this later, because for the moment we still have quarantine in the United States" for Europeans, said the European Commissioner.
Decisions to be taken by each Member State
The 27 Member States agreed on May 19 to allow entry into the European Union for travelers from third countries who have received the necessary doses of the vaccines against Covid authorized at the European level.
Travelers must have been fully vaccinated for at least 14 days, with the two doses of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, AstraZeneca or the single dose from Johnson & Johnson.
Brussels had proposed that there should be no testing or quarantine imposed for fully vaccinated people, but these decisions are ultimately up to each Member State.
France, which will reopen the flow of travelers based on a color code as of June 9, will continue to require a negative test (PCR or antigenic) for travelers from the United States, whether or not they are vaccinated.
Regarding China, Thierry Breton said: "We are watching the evolution of the pandemic. There is also reciprocity. It is necessary that from the moment we welcome Chinese tourists, there is the same reciprocity, with a comparable situation."
Europe is demanding "reciprocity" from the United States in terms of welcoming European tourists, particularly with regard to quarantine, as part of the easing of restrictions related to Covid-19, said this Monday, June 7 on RTL the European Commissioner for the Internal Market, Thierry Breton.
Questioned this Monday, June 7, on RTL about tourism, the European Commissioner for Internal Market, Thierry Breton, said he would have "a meeting this evening with [his] American counterpart, the person in charge of American vaccines, to discuss precisely this issue" of welcoming Americans in Europe, and vice versa.
"We already welcome American tourists from the moment they are vaccinated, from the moment they have had the two doses and we have waited the 15 days. I insist that we want reciprocity, and I will talk about this later, because for the moment we still have quarantine in the United States" for Europeans, said the European Commissioner.
Decisions to be taken by each Member State
The 27 Member States agreed on May 19 to allow entry into the European Union for travelers from third countries who have received the necessary doses of the vaccines against Covid authorized at the European level.
Travelers must have been fully vaccinated for at least 14 days, with the two doses of Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech, AstraZeneca or the single dose from Johnson & Johnson.
Brussels had proposed that there should be no testing or quarantine imposed for fully vaccinated people, but these decisions are ultimately up to each Member State.
France, which will reopen the flow of travelers based on a color code as of June 9, will continue to require a negative test (PCR or antigenic) for travelers from the United States, whether or not they are vaccinated.
Regarding China, Thierry Breton said: "We are watching the evolution of the pandemic. There is also reciprocity. It is necessary that from the moment we welcome Chinese tourists, there is the same reciprocity, with a comparable situation."
Jun 7, 2021, 9:17 am
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But, you're right. Potentially introduce "more" would have been better.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:30 am
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''because for the moment we still have quarantine in the United States":
Jun 7, 2021, 9:37 am
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I could foresee a potential US decoupling of the UK-IRL CTA from the Schengen zone when it comes to the US restricting travel from Europe because of a public health emergency; but I wouldn’t count on it happening unless the CDC and some other US health advisors would push for a decoupled approach.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:42 am
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Wrong ... at the moment we just can't enter the US, If this is the European Commissioner who has to negotiate, we're in good shape, he doesn't even know the current rules. My God what a level of ignorance, both part...this is the reason we are in this situation. Ignorance based....
Originally Posted by CDC.gov
After International Travel
Updated May 3, 2021
You may have been exposed to COVID-19 on your travels. You may feel well and not have any symptoms, but you can still be infected and spread the virus to others. You and your travel companions (including children) pose a risk to your family, friends, and community for 14 days after you travel.
After travel information for people fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine or a vaccine authorized for emergency use by the World Health Organization:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel.
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements after travel.
After travel information for unvaccinated people:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.
Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.
If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.
Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not.
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
Updated May 3, 2021
You may have been exposed to COVID-19 on your travels. You may feel well and not have any symptoms, but you can still be infected and spread the virus to others. You and your travel companions (including children) pose a risk to your family, friends, and community for 14 days after you travel.
After travel information for people fully vaccinated with an FDA-authorized vaccine or a vaccine authorized for emergency use by the World Health Organization:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel.
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements after travel.
After travel information for unvaccinated people:
Get tested with a viral test 3-5 days after travel AND stay home and self-quarantine for a full 7 days after travel.
Even if you test negative, stay home and self-quarantine for the full 7 days.
If your test is positive, isolate yourself to protect others from getting infected.
If you don’t get tested, stay home and self-quarantine for 10 days after travel.
Avoid being around people who are at increased risk for severe illness for 14 days, whether you get tested or not.
Self-monitor for COVID-19 symptoms; isolate and get tested if you develop symptoms.
Follow all state and local recommendations or requirements.
Jun 7, 2021, 9:48 am
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Jun 7, 2021, 9:51 am
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Which applies to non-US citizens too, as it’s for international arrivals to the US — whether US citizens or not. But it’s de facto a recommendation as CDC doesn’t have police going around enforcing self-quarantine guidance. But it’s still a quarantine of sorts.