Copa announced ConnectMiles
#16
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MDE
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I have been flying Copa for years, but I just last week learned something that I had never discovered. Try switching to the Panama site if the fare you want is too high.
I was trying to book a flight on the Colombia site, but it was over $1100. Bought it from UA for $440ish. Later learned that it was about the same on Copa's Panama site. That will be important going forward from 7/1/15.
No indication on whether tickets purchased on copaair.com carry more weight for status launch than tickets purchased elsewhere. Hoping not. My only two RTs this year prior to July 1 have been purchased from UA for the reason noted above.
Also unsure about how much history will be reviewed to determine status at launch. They had originally stated that flights in the first half of 2015 would be used as the measure, but today's announcement doesn't make that distinction.
I flew a lot of Copa flights between the USA and Latin America last year, but only two since jumping from UA to AA on an EXP offer. Need the credit for those flights on AA to keep my EXP after 2015 unless I travel more in the 2nd half than I have in the first.
Copa's my favorite in their region, though. Flew AV last week, and the connection at BOG can stink if the flight arrives or departs from a pod. Even more so in the rain. Hate how AV boards Clase Ejecutiva onto the bus first, then lets everyone make a mad dash for the stairs regardless of cabin. Really, I just don't like cramped bus rides period.
I was trying to book a flight on the Colombia site, but it was over $1100. Bought it from UA for $440ish. Later learned that it was about the same on Copa's Panama site. That will be important going forward from 7/1/15.
No indication on whether tickets purchased on copaair.com carry more weight for status launch than tickets purchased elsewhere. Hoping not. My only two RTs this year prior to July 1 have been purchased from UA for the reason noted above.
Also unsure about how much history will be reviewed to determine status at launch. They had originally stated that flights in the first half of 2015 would be used as the measure, but today's announcement doesn't make that distinction.
I flew a lot of Copa flights between the USA and Latin America last year, but only two since jumping from UA to AA on an EXP offer. Need the credit for those flights on AA to keep my EXP after 2015 unless I travel more in the 2nd half than I have in the first.
Copa's my favorite in their region, though. Flew AV last week, and the connection at BOG can stink if the flight arrives or departs from a pod. Even more so in the rain. Hate how AV boards Clase Ejecutiva onto the bus first, then lets everyone make a mad dash for the stairs regardless of cabin. Really, I just don't like cramped bus rides period.
#18
Join Date: Sep 2012
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The one and only time that I have arrived in BOG at a pod when traveling Copa, they had a separate van (Not a bus) which was waiting for those of us in Clase Ejecutiva. One of the FAs stood between the cabins to hold back the masses, and there was an announcement that they would be first allowing CE pax off the plane, then a bus would arrive for those in economica.
I have never departed BOG from a pod when flying Copa, so I don't know if they have the same practice, but it made a huge difference in the total premium cabin experience.
Boarding the bus first as a premium cabin passenger is actually a disadvantage. We get buried behind those that are crammed onto the bus after us, so we can't get off the bus first. All we get to do is spend more time on that uncomfortable, overcrowded bus.
#19
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MEX
Programs: LATAMPASS, Copa ConnectMiles Gold
Posts: 266
Status Match
As my previous MileagePlus elite status elapsed last year, and I now find myself with LANPASS Comodoro status, I emailed Copa to ask about the possibility of a Status Match once the new program opens for business.
Am happy to report that the answer is YES!
The customer service rep who replied to me said that she contacted their Operations Management people, and they told her that yes, they would match my status.
Of course, it's not yet possible to enroll in the program (not until May), so she asked that I contact them at that time, at which point they'll let me know whatever it is that they might require. (Assuming a copy of my current LANPASS statement to show my status would suffice.)
Am happy to report that the answer is YES!
The customer service rep who replied to me said that she contacted their Operations Management people, and they told her that yes, they would match my status.
Of course, it's not yet possible to enroll in the program (not until May), so she asked that I contact them at that time, at which point they'll let me know whatever it is that they might require. (Assuming a copy of my current LANPASS statement to show my status would suffice.)
#20
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I'm interested in seeing the *A award chart. They have n such chart visible that I can see yet.
#22
Join Date: Jun 2007
Programs: United 1K, Copa Presidential Plat, Hilton Diamond, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 150
Will they let us transfer our MP miles? I avoided buying Copa flights this year due to the huge devaluation of earnings with MP (no more Elite bonus!!!) but I have south America flights coming up and if in some way I can find out I would gladly book Copa and transfer to ConnectMiles, however I do have over half million miles in my account and would rather not loose them...
#23
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MDE
Programs: AA-PLT, HH-GLD, PP
Posts: 1,511
Will they let us transfer our MP miles? I avoided buying Copa flights this year due to the huge devaluation of earnings with MP (no more Elite bonus!!!) but I have south America flights coming up and if in some way I can find out I would gladly book Copa and transfer to ConnectMiles, however I do have over half million miles in my account and would rather not loose them...
#24
Join Date: May 2006
Location: BOS and ...
Programs: UA 2MM, AA 600k, DL 500k, Hyatt GP 1M, HH Gold, Rad. Gold, CP Gold, Miracle Fruit-su Club
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From United's end...
http://mileageplusupdates.com/copaupdate/
Of course, Copa has to do what they have to do, but it's a shame that they couldn't have waited and all come together and settled down at once, both here and at United. In the meantime, the KISS principle - fundamental to any such program - is seriously abused. It may be quite a challenge for ConnectMiles to come from behind (thank you again, United, for the confusion) right out of the gate.
Also, just to clarify one of the OP's points, signing up now to subscribe just gets one in line to enroll in the program down the line, and then to earn the 1,000 for that.
Now, will there come a time when all settles out for it to make sense for some people to earn all their miles into ConnectMiles when flying United?
ETA: Anyone else get "This email is already registered" when signing up to subscribe?
http://mileageplusupdates.com/copaupdate/
Of course, Copa has to do what they have to do, but it's a shame that they couldn't have waited and all come together and settled down at once, both here and at United. In the meantime, the KISS principle - fundamental to any such program - is seriously abused. It may be quite a challenge for ConnectMiles to come from behind (thank you again, United, for the confusion) right out of the gate.
Also, just to clarify one of the OP's points, signing up now to subscribe just gets one in line to enroll in the program down the line, and then to earn the 1,000 for that.
Now, will there come a time when all settles out for it to make sense for some people to earn all their miles into ConnectMiles when flying United?
ETA: Anyone else get "This email is already registered" when signing up to subscribe?
Last edited by Firewind; Apr 6, 2015 at 5:23 am
#25
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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Posts: 522
Star Alliance accrual chart posted
#26
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They also have the *A redemption chart up. Star Alliance Award Chart. Same ridiculously high levels as UA.
So much for this program being a good alternative to Mileage Plus.
So much for this program being a good alternative to Mileage Plus.
#27
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: IND
Programs: Avianca Brazil Diamond, Etihad Gold, Southwest CC Pass, HH Diamond, SPG Gold
Posts: 315
As my previous MileagePlus elite status elapsed last year, and I now find myself with LANPASS Comodoro status, I emailed Copa to ask about the possibility of a Status Match once the new program opens for business.
Am happy to report that the answer is YES!
The customer service rep who replied to me said that she contacted their Operations Management people, and they told her that yes, they would match my status.
Of course, it's not yet possible to enroll in the program (not until May), so she asked that I contact them at that time, at which point they'll let me know whatever it is that they might require. (Assuming a copy of my current LANPASS statement to show my status would suffice.)
Am happy to report that the answer is YES!
The customer service rep who replied to me said that she contacted their Operations Management people, and they told her that yes, they would match my status.
Of course, it's not yet possible to enroll in the program (not until May), so she asked that I contact them at that time, at which point they'll let me know whatever it is that they might require. (Assuming a copy of my current LANPASS statement to show my status would suffice.)
There top tier has regional and global upgrades that can be used on United. 2nd highest tier has regional upgrades as well
#28
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MEX
Programs: LATAMPASS, Copa ConnectMiles Gold
Posts: 266
They also have the *A redemption chart up. Star Alliance Award Chart. Same ridiculously high levels as UA.
So much for this program being a good alternative to Mileage Plus.
So much for this program being a good alternative to Mileage Plus.
Just checking some of the partner earning rates, I see that Air New Zealand, Singapore, and Turkish seem to have a lot of fare classes that will earn 0%.
#29
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: MEX
Programs: LATAMPASS, Copa ConnectMiles Gold
Posts: 266
I'll still do the status match, come June 10th, when enrollment officially begins, since I'm going to have some upcoming flights with Copa in July and August anyway. Hopefully, I'll have the same success at upgrades as I had with Copa in recent years.
#30
Join Date: Mar 2013
Programs: Marriott Titanium
Posts: 284
This came in an email today:
"Private enrollment begins on May 20th. We will recognize members' previous flying with Copa Airlines and will invite members to join and receive their reserved status. Please watch for the invitation email."
"Private enrollment begins on May 20th. We will recognize members' previous flying with Copa Airlines and will invite members to join and receive their reserved status. Please watch for the invitation email."