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Pls pray for me & my family - am at the police sta. -- son has been arrested! Wiill write more later. Interesting to find myself hangin' out w/ex in this situation!

Oh boy. If you need any hints, help or a shoulder to cry on give me a call at home. (Not the cell...it's broken). I have experience. :rolleyes:

Edit: you have PM

MBM3	Nov 20, 2009 7:16 pm

gonna bring things down and back up again. sorry!

icurhere2

Nov 20, 2009 7:29 pm

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Originally Posted by bdjohns1 (Post 12854837)

Back in college, I somehow ended up grading a freshman CS assignment for about 400 students. 30 handed in a substantially identical incorrect solution. :td:

Graded until 5 Central and then had a work dinner - just got home (really). Found another case of plagiarism.

And I did have 14 cases of identical papers when I was at a (Washington D.C. University) in 1999.

icurhere2

Nov 20, 2009 7:30 pm

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Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12854862)

Legal writing is odd. You're constantly using (but meticulously and copiously citing) the ideas of others. Often, the footnotes/endnotes section of a law review comment or article will be longer than the piece itself.

That's not a problem. Problem is when I can read something you wrote and know to Google it immediately without so much as quote marks.

MBM3	Nov 20, 2009 7:31 pm

its back up. post away.

icurhere2

Nov 20, 2009 7:31 pm

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Originally Posted by AMF in NJ (Post 12855423)

+:eek:

Seriously.

colpuck

Nov 20, 2009 7:36 pm

2.:rolleyes: still down? Thepenaltybox2 and penaltybox2 both don't work.

colpuck

Nov 20, 2009 7:39 pm

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Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12855807)

That's not a problem. Problem is when I can read something you wrote and know to Google it immediately without so much as quote marks.

Everyone has a unique style of writing.

icurhere2

Nov 20, 2009 7:43 pm

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 12855826)

Everyone has a unique style of writing.

Problem when the style belongs to someone else ...

gbryan84

Nov 20, 2009 7:47 pm

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Originally Posted by mnmag (Post 12855391)

Pls pray for me & my family - am at the police sta. -- son has been arrested! Wiill write more later. Interesting to find myself hangin' out w/ex in this situation!

Good luck. As my mom always said, boys will be boys and trust me I got in my fair share of trouble growing up. Luckily nothing a little money and an attorney to keep it off my record.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter

Nov 20, 2009 7:53 pm

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Originally Posted by icurhere2 (Post 12855807)

That's not a problem. Problem is when I can read something you wrote and know to Google it immediately without so much as quote marks.

I wasn't defending plagiarism... just making a tangential point about the oddity of legal writing. IMHO, the formulaic nature of legal writing and drafting can be extremely off-putting to someone who enjoys creative writing.

Granted, it is nice to learn how to effectively string together an argument and to support it with appropriate citation. However, I believe that the legal world's emphasis on precedent skews legal writing to the extremes of backing up one's writing with supporting authority. Surely anyone's eyes glaze over when faced with a half-page paragraph of string-cites ranging from see, to see, also, to see, generally to but see to Cf., etc...

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