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J.Edward Nov 17, 2009 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12835484)
I am going to stop reading at Ua forums, they seem to take channas words as gospel truth that Plats have 1% upgrades on CO.

A lot depends on the market. If you're a Plat out of SFO you'll be lucky to have greater than a 35% upgrade rate, assuming you're not buying M+ fares...and even then it's dicey.

If you're flying transcons you can expect close to 0.

A year or so ago Scott posted that on average only 1 person got upgraded on transcon flights (which really means that multiple people were getting upgraded on the off times/redeyes flights.)

As an IAH'er I've enjoyed respectable rates to most markets as I've learned to avoid the primetime flights and peak destinations (or fly AA or UA :p) but being a CO elite in LAX/SFO is hard if you're doing it for the upgrades.

icurhere2 Nov 17, 2009 1:21 pm

Running away - need to get the car's oil changed before racquetball.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 17, 2009 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by FT Lurker (Post 12835518)

Those uninterested in feeding trolls could "enjoy" teh botemkin Village.

sdm1130 Nov 17, 2009 1:21 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12835493)
PostWhore could be so much more than just Teh Box. We could have TOS-free Troll Feeding Zones, and Courts of :rolleyes:, where people could hurl all sorts of baseless accusations at each other, and the judges could add to or delete from post counts as necessary, amongst all sorts of other intriguing options.

PostWhore.com: where everyone is a moderator and :rolleyes: rules the world.

rolov Nov 17, 2009 1:25 pm

Im installing a forum on a domain I had sitting around @:-)

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 17, 2009 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12835543)
PostWhore.com: where everyone is a moderator and :rolleyes: rules the world.

I guess it could have a travel-related forum, but I'm not sure whether posts there should count. :-:

xFF Nov 17, 2009 1:25 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12835484)
they [are willing to be led to believe] that Plats have 1% upgrades on CO.

That shouldn't bother you at all. In fact, the more people who believe that CO Y is Gulag Class™ and no one ever gets an upgrade, and shun routing over any other, the better.

Edit: Of course this has revenue implications for CO; I am speaking purely from the standpoint of vested interest.

Hartmann Nov 17, 2009 1:25 pm

Rumors are swirling that the day will end with 70-80 layoffs at the Associated Press.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 17, 2009 1:26 pm


Originally Posted by rolov (Post 12835564)
Im installing a forum on a domain I had sitting around @:-)

Can post counts be artificially inflated and deflated?

Mackieman Nov 17, 2009 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 12835543)
PostWhore.com: where everyone is a moderator and :rolleyes: rules the world.

Having run a 6000+ user forum in the past (not nearly as large as FT) I've found that letting anything happen generally leads to the total destruction of the entire site.

Anglo Large Clawed Otter Nov 17, 2009 1:29 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12835578)
Having run a 6000+ user forum in the past (not nearly as large as FT) I've found that letting anything happen generally leads to the total destruction of the entire site.

I think rampant, unrepentant chaos and :rolleyes: would kind of be the point to a Forum dedicated to meaningless accumulation of posts. :-:

Flyer_70 Nov 17, 2009 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12835418)
I have to give UA props today.

My EWR-IAD-DEN-ABQ-ORD run on Sat got truncated to EWR-ORD due to a delayed IAD-DEN flight.

Called them up today and they gave me original routing credit. No problems. When I got back to my computer, there they were.

^ Gotta love that. :)

Last month I was on a MR consisting of two separate itins - AUS-LAX with LAX-BOS embedded. The return BOS-LAX was cancelled due to no pilot so I overnighted in BOS. AAs original solution (phone agent) was to get me home 12 hours later than scheduled. No can do. Talked to a GA who re-routed me back to AUS (BOS-DFW-AUS), hence I was out about 1750 or so miles for the run.

Long story short - called customer service intending to ask for those additional miles and yes - I was going to ask for the miles from the separate itin they caused me to miss. Not only did they let me keep the BOS-AUS miles, they gave me BOS-LAX and LAX-AUS. Thanks AA. :D


(Good afternoon Box!)

Steph3n Nov 17, 2009 1:30 pm


Originally Posted by J.Edward (Post 12835538)
A lot depends on the market. If you're a Plat out of SFO you'll be lucky to have greater than a 35% upgrade rate, assuming you're not buying M+ fares...and even then it's dicey.

If you're flying transcons you can expect close to 0.

A year or so ago Scott posted that on average only 1 person got upgraded on transcon flights (which really means that multiple people were getting upgraded on the off times/redeyes flights.)

As an IAH'er I've enjoyed respectable rates to most markets as I've learned to avoid the primetime flights and peak destinations (or fly AA or UA :p) but being a CO elite in LAX/SFO is hard if you're doing it for the upgrades.

yes i understand this, and I know UA has a lot of West Coast elites, I am just saying that overall CO is not nearly as bad as the people that post it continually saying how bad the upgrade rates are. it is FULLY market based, and CO/UA having such is a good thing in the end for all, not a bad thing.

just like i posted there, having a system that works together doesnt mean a mass exodus of fliers from one to the other! I MAY fly UA 2-3 times a year, otherwise the simply don't go where I need to go. and in any case I'd have to fly a combo itin with CO and UA on the same.

AMF in NJ Nov 17, 2009 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 12835594)
I think rampant, unrepentant chaos and :rolleyes: would kind of be the point to a Forum dedicated to meaningless accumulation of posts. :-:

It's all :p, :D and :rolleyes: until some posts something from a .cx domain. :-:

Steph3n Nov 17, 2009 1:32 pm

I have tons of domains, and avialable servers, I just don't see need to make a forum dedicated to the box. making a new FT alternative may be an option if this :rolleyes: of servers keeps up, just to give the finger to IB.


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