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xFF Oct 30, 2009 12:51 pm


Originally Posted by ConciergeMike (Post 12738629)
the assistant adds to the chaos by not simply overwriting the file and sending it back.

Microsoft invested time and resources in a programming development tool named "Source Safe" (I think that's the name) that does version control (Unix, of course, was first, but whatever).

Is there not a similar "version control" product for documents? Must be, it would seem.

Steph3n Oct 30, 2009 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12738669)
Microsoft invested time and resources in a programming development tool named "Source Safe" (I think that's the name) that does version control (Unix, of course, was first, but whatever).

Is there not a similar "version control" product for documents? Must be, it would seem.

Volume Shadow Copy, source safe is for development only :D "Previous versions" tab on file properties if enabled.

xFF Oct 30, 2009 12:59 pm


Originally Posted by Steph3n (Post 12738683)
Volume Shadow Copy, source safe is for development only :D "Previous versions" tab on file properties if enabled.

And that is part of the Office suite, or a stand-alone product?

ETA: Found it. A Windows service.

windwalker Oct 30, 2009 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by fozz (Post 12738412)
Your moment of zen.

a new site is book-marked ^

Olton Hall Oct 30, 2009 1:14 pm

The market is at it again :rolleyes: I'll predict it will not close as bad as it is now as the people looking for bargins will now swoop in for some good buys in the final minutes.

ConciergeMike Oct 30, 2009 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12738669)
Microsoft invested time and resources in a programming development tool named "Source Safe" (I think that's the name) that does version control (Unix, of course, was first, but whatever).

Is there not a similar "version control" product for documents? Must be, it would seem.

Not even close in this world. Technophobes galore.

windwalker Oct 30, 2009 1:26 pm

hmmmm, Walmart is now selling Caskets.
Get miles for your final purchase

sbm12 Oct 30, 2009 1:37 pm


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12738669)
Is there not a similar "version control" product for documents? Must be, it would seem.

There are several. Document Management is big business, and happens to be a big part of my business (used to be much more significant; less so lately). Even SharePoint (free or paid versions) can do it to some extent but it requires changing the way one thinks about documents and systems in general.

xFF Oct 30, 2009 1:38 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12738790)
The market is at it again :rolleyes: I'll predict it will not close as bad as it is now as the people looking for bargins will now swoop in for some good buys in the final minutes.

Things started out with order imbalance today. Fund month-end window dressing, wanting to lock yesterday in the book. Don't buy into the "oh, the consumer" wailing. The consumer is not going to come back to insane levels for a good while, and everybody knows it.

ConciergeMike Oct 30, 2009 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12738909)
requires changing the way one thinks

Is Not Possible. I have to deal with "and do I left-click on this? How many times?"

xFF Oct 30, 2009 1:43 pm


Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 12738909)
There are several. Document Management is big business, and happens to be a big part of my business (used to be much more significant; less so lately). Even SharePoint (free or paid versions) can do it to some extent but it requires changing the way one thinks about documents and systems in general.

I would envision something that is integrated into Word, with dialog "Do you want this new document under DocLock? [name I just invented on the fly here]" and then subseqent openings are actually clone check-outs, with the version history accessible via menu. Given the new xml based paradigm of documents, along with the old VBA interfaces to Office, seems like it could be done in a way that the "technophobe" users could understand and get behind it.

Olton Hall Oct 30, 2009 1:46 pm


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12738913)
Things started out with order imbalance today. Fund month-end window dressing, wanting to lock yesterday in the book. Don't buy into the "oh, the consumer" wailing. The consumer is not going to come back to insane levels for a good while, and everybody knows it.

It seems the next month will be a bumpy ride of ups and downs. Great for those who are good at day trading.

Mackieman Oct 30, 2009 1:49 pm


Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 12738957)
It seems the next month will be a bumpy ride of ups and downs. Great for those who are good at day trading.

I just bailed out of everything at a 40% gain. I have a feeling that this thing is going to tank at some point; additional sub-prime loans will be defaulting and inflation has to hit at some point as a result of all the money we printed.

Mackieman Oct 30, 2009 1:50 pm


Originally Posted by xFF (Post 12738935)
I would envision something that is integrated into Word, with dialog "Do you want this new document under DocLock? [name I just invented on the fly here]" and then subseqent openings are actually clone check-outs, with the version history accessible via menu. Given the new xml based paradigm of documents, along with the old VBA interfaces to Office, seems like it could be done in a way that the "technophobe" users could understand and get behind it.

True version control systems can maintain almost any type of file. I've used Perforce regularly and it is quite expensive; svn is good for *nix and is free, but is really made for software developers.

Olton Hall Oct 30, 2009 1:55 pm


Originally Posted by Mackieman (Post 12738979)
I just bailed out of everything at a 40% gain. I have a feeling that this thing is going to tank at some point; additional sub-prime loans will be defaulting and inflation has to hit at some point as a result of all the money we printed.

Monday will be a telling day. I suspect the Dow will close up for the month, just barely and I'm sure some will spin that fact to make it simular to the second coming.


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