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I'd love to be getting me some Brooklyn Decker Wyndham miles but as I can't get signed up for a BD number, ,not sure that's going to work out. I'm guessing trying to get miles retroactively would be a lesson in utter :rolleyes:ness

Hartmann

Feb 10, 2010 11:15 am

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 13364338)

PANYJ, says that flight has been canceled.

SQ says it's delayed and it appears it's already left SIN.

FT Lurker

Feb 10, 2010 11:22 am

The windows in my office look like the inside of a snow globe.

:D

sbm12

Feb 10, 2010 11:23 am

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 13364294)

EWR shut down, I wonder where CO will divert their three flights today.

They landed 6-8 hours ago. :rolleyes:

Phudnik

Feb 10, 2010 11:26 am

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Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13364213)

Understood and agreed on all counts. Ironically it was the US pilots union that pushed this issue to the forefront with the regulators, ensuring that they will not be able to establish dominance, increase fares and ensure survival of the carrier and their jobs.

I really think that their pilots - at least the ones running the union - want the carrier to fail.

It wouldn't surprise me. They have pretty toxic pilot labor relations at US, which is why several years post-merger they still have two separate pilot groups and contracts. In part, the issue boils down to seniority -- as I understand it, the original arbitrator's decision interlaced US and HP pilots one-for-one which would have left US pilots (the most junior of whom was hired in the late '80s or early '90s, IIRC) below HP pilots with less experience and tenure in the seniority scale. As a consequence, US pilots decertified their union and formed another (at least, I think that's what happened; I have a limited tolerance for reading the usaviation threads that cover this issue). Meanwhile, they still don't have a unified contract, in part because it would likely cost US money, and US's management is in no hurry to push things along.

At some point last year, the pilots' union had put up anti-management billboards along I-95 near PHL.

My guess is also that someone in the pilots' union thinks that this will cost mainline jobs.

Brituchenite

Feb 10, 2010 11:31 am

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Originally Posted by Olton Hall (Post 13362105)

M:rolleyes:rning Box. More snow fell over night than was orginally expected. I may have to do an interim snow blow while its a low in the storm.

BP printed for tomorrow mornings flight. Only time will tell

Snow is coming down here quite heavily now. We had about 9" overnight, and are predicted to get about another 8-10" this afternoon and evening. :(

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Originally Posted by sdm1130 (Post 13363025)

Have I ever mentioned that I hate snow?

Hmmm! Let's see....... :D

fozz	Feb 10, 2010 11:32 am

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Originally Posted by sbm12 (Post 13364063)

Then again, not doing anything and letting the two play it out as is would also be fun to watch.

I like this option the best.

And, in reality, I still don't understand why US doesn't free those slots up on the open market or possibly even to a fellow *A carrier.

There is no doubt they were on the losing end and it just got worse.

fozz	Feb 10, 2010 11:33 am

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Originally Posted by Phudnik (Post 13364172)

US also was supposed to get rights to fly to GRU and NRT, which they're interested in having (especially since they aren't included in the NH/CO/UA transpac arrangement). (I'm not sure if they have a plane that can get to NRT, but that's another issue.) Anyway, it's clear from the response that if they won't be able to use market dominance as a way of boosting fares they don't want to go through with the transaction.

The NRT slots were weird. They were getting them, but they were going to lease them back to DL for a few years.

So, is GRU worth that much? What does US know that the rest of the world doesn't?

Brituchenite

Feb 10, 2010 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by sfogate (Post 13364115)

Good morning Box.

I almost stepped outside The Box to post a scream. I am tired of reading about CO shutting down their operations in cities affected by the snow storm and how the phone lines are jammed. :rolleyes:

One of these days we will operate all flights in bad weather. If you can't make it to the airport during a storm- tough - you lose the money on your ticket and will have to purchase another one. Airline Bill of Rights. ;) :rolleyes:

You get no :rolleyes: from me when you close down because of bad weather. I wouldn't want to risk flying in bad weather. I value safety, thank you very much :)

So, sfogate, take refuge in the Box, and know that we are all sympathizing with you!

fozz	Feb 10, 2010 11:34 am

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Originally Posted by rolov (Post 13364311)

I wonder what they are going to do with SQ22, it left SIN according to SQ.

Maybe it will divert to ACY. :)

icurhere2

Feb 10, 2010 11:35 am

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Originally Posted by colpuck (Post 13364326)

Someone just prank called CNN.

Details?

sbm12

Feb 10, 2010 11:36 am

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Originally Posted by Brituchenite (Post 13364497)

Snow is coming down here quite heavily now.

Heavy, wet stuff coming down here, too.

Glad I've got leftover soup in the house from yesterday's lunch order. :-:

Mackieman

Feb 10, 2010 11:40 am

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Originally Posted by Anglo Large Clawed Otter (Post 13364246)

Sorry, BA, but not even triple miles (1,500 per stay) will get me to Marriott. :-:

CO offered the same special and you have to not earn MR points to get it. The points I get from a stay are far more valuable than 1500 OnePass miles.

AMF in NJ

Feb 10, 2010 11:41 am

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rolov

Feb 10, 2010 11:44 am

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Originally Posted by Hartmann (Post 13364352)

SQ says it's delayed and it appears it's already left SIN.

That is why I was confused.

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