Its NOT so simple, Example taking a Kosher Hamburger patty and taking a slice of say Kosher Cheese (yep most cheese are not kosher), although each item in and of itself are Kosher once put together renders the total no longer Kosher.

So if there was a vegtable cart set up and the vegatables were NOT sliced, then maybe, once they are sliced there could very well be a problem due to the utensils that were used to cut them. So therefore a person who adheres closely to the laws of Kosher wont eat such items, sold by such a vendor.

The same might be the case for a Muslim since they wouldnt know if the knife had indeed been used to cut meat that they wont eat. (not 100% on this). Just as peopel wont eat a product if it was made in a plant that had say peanuts in it , if they are allegic to peanuts, not enough that the product itself didnt contain any for some they need to know that there werent any nearby at all, when the product was made.

So Egg Salad or Tuna Salad are also out of question, some would eat it since the egg or tuna itself OK, but most who adhere to the fullest when it comes to keeping Kosher wont.

Perhaps then, energy should be directed toward the airports in providing such SPECIAL meals through their vendors. Why should the burden be soley on the airline.

Why can't this traveler pack his/her own food? Did I miss something?

You should be covered by the 1 drop in 60 rule on that one craz. No airline or vendor should have to stock 20 different types of special meals.

Do you also demand that CO won't seat you next to a female passenger? When I took my mother to Israel for the first time, we took a sherut to Jerusalem, and there was a hassidic guy next to her, he asked to switch with me so he wouldn't be seated next to a woman. Ridiculous, but I understand that's his option to follow such silly 'rules'. I switched and explained it to my mother. On a personal level, its a reasonable accomodation. However, you will find that most reasonable people will not be so accomodating when the orthodox leadership starts saying things like this : http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satelli...cle%2FShowFull


CO does a decent job at providing food to passengers. I think its absurd to ask them to provide a gazillion different types of meals. CO is able to providve food because they have the scale and standardization with chelsea. they also have this new Kosher meal out of Tel Aviv that was supposedly designed by their TLV Congress of Chefs, but that page is no longer available.

And you have single-handedly proven why they do not provide all special meals, all the time. Just from your explanation it is easy to tell it is an expensive venture.

Wow, I didn't know it worked like that! I thought I had it tough being a vegetarian but this is much more complex. For me if I take 2-3 vegetarian items and put them together the final product is still vegetarian!

Wrong at least when it comes to Kosher and Halal, CO or any Carrier for that matter does NOT make its own it purchases them from an outside vendor.

I was just at a supermaket
where I could have purchased a Kosher TV Diner that meets everyones standards it was a Meat meal like those that are served on the Intl flights except w/o the tray and dessert which is nothing anyway. It retailed for $6.19 as we all know that its cheaper per piece when one purchases say 4 Ice Cream cones in a box that are NOT labeled for individual sales, then 4 pieces that are, as the 4 in a box usually comes in white wrapping. Same can be said for any multi-package of almost anything.

My point is Im sure if it cost me $6 in a supermaket it costs CO alot less.And the one in the supermarket weighs alot more then what CO would serve me to boot.

I see what CO serves on my tray when I can get my special meal and what it serves on the reg trays , theres alot more stuff on the reg tray, so it could be that they allow only X amount to be spent per meal.

To all of you who say its too costly, why not write CO and ask that they ELIMATE all meals as that for sure will help CO stay in the air alot longer as a profitable concern, you go brown bag it and then tell me how great it is to do.

actually, there is a rule on it, it requires a 60:1 ratio of kosher:non-kosher material, there is some info on that here, though with regard to passover, no amount is permissible.

http://www.dailyhalacha.com/Display....=2&ClipID=1158

since theres no way to guarantee how many if any meals will be sold , I highly doubt its a viable item to try to sell.

I guess you agree that with me that CO should cease meals on any and alll flights within the US even in FC. After all there are vendors selling sandwhichs and restaraunts in almost all Terms today, let teh Passenger buy food if they want, CO is not a restaurant and thusly shouldnt be providing food in any class of service.

dont want to turn this into kosher.com,

so the 60;1 ratio is not if something is done with INTENT frrom get go, I also dont know too many people that will eat a vegatable cut with a knife that just cut a hot ham sandwhich (even a cold one at that) or any non-kosher food at that.

So I cant take a 60 lb pot say , and put 59 lbs of kosher meat into it and then 1 lb of non-kosher meat and say , its Kosher cause its a 60:1 ratio. each case is separate and what if anything can be used should be asked to a Compentent Othodox Rabbi

Again, it is more expensive because it isn't an ice cream cone, it's meat and it has to be handled a specific way, which means it probably does not wholesale for less than the retail. It is a commodity.

I do not know what supermarket you were at but every time I have looked at Halal foods or Kosher, it is significantly more expensive than what I would pay for something similar but non-Halal or Kosher. Granted, these were at supermarkets, not specialty stores.

Forget about the cost, even you will admitt that whatever it is that CO serves costs CO $$$ Kosher or not. So why dont You start a push for CO to abandon serving meals altogether anbd save the $$. And like I said above let those who wish to eat buy thier own meals or bring it with you.

Oh I get it youre against that since you are willing to eat whatever it is that CO serves you. Keep in mind Im not only talking about Kosher or Halal, theres low sodium, low fat etc that hasnt anything to do with ones Religion.

Why do I have the feeling that You would be the 1st one to leave CO if they pulled All meals. As long as you're getting what you want the heck with everyone else, after all why should CO have to pay for it, so I ask Why should CO have to even pay for the so called food that they do serve????

I would rather see the title of this thread be changed to SPECIAL MEALS since its not only Kosher ones that are affected, but all Special Meals

it isn't anyone's intention to add non-kosher components to the vegetables, its not like wrapping carrots in ham and then undoing it onto one's plate. The intent isn't there so its still covered.

If you want to live by ridiculous (strict veganism, strict kashrut, nothing that 0.1 ppb of peanut, strict halal, etc) rules then go right ahead. CO shouldn't have to accomodate that on every flight they serve food on. It is reasonable to say that if you are going to choose to follow a very strict set of rules that you can provide for yourself. Airlines shouldn't have to account for every variation of desire/need.

Well considering you don't know me...

I wouldn't leave CO, in fact, I could care less if they did not serve meals on their domestic flights. I flew AA almost exclusively up until December of 2006 and they do not serve meals on domestic economy at all, not even peanuts. So for you to think I'd care or to think that I am some elitist is asinine.

I do not care if it is for a religious reason or not, any kind of special meal, is more costly because it is just that, special.

If this irks you so much why do you still fly CO?