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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 1:22 am
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Originally Posted by DH77024
I am also quite unhappy that CO does not serve Maine lobsters on my IAH-anywhere flights.

Why are you unhappy? No one would expect an airline to serve Maine lobster or even Alabama lobster. How would they prepare it, anyway?

The discussion is focused on the airline's choice not to provide a qualified meal to those who observe strict religious or dietary laws, or those who have allegies to certain ingredients, when a meal is served on the flight. Those of us who are unhappy are not asking for something expensive. We desire to have a meal with our fellow passengers, the same meal, just that it is certified to our needs.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 1:55 am
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I think its a ridiculous request to have KSMLs on every flight. CO flies about 1500 flights from outstations (non-hubs) a day. Now look at the list of special meals. Imagine the logistics of having to accomodate that for every flight, from every station. Its not pretty.

Personally I think that with some re-working, it would be rather easy to make a standardized set of meals that can accomodate groups of passengers. A sauteed vegetable platter over rice could be kosher/halal/vegan/veggie/low sodium/lowfat...

In the real of kashrut, I enjoyed the table of kosher for passover goodies that CO had at the CLE and EWR pclubs. I don't know if/which other clubs had such things but it was good to see. (I wonder if they had it at IAH... they are certainly aware that CLE has a large Jewish population...if only they had the TLV flight to go with the matzo).

I know I'd be much happier if they had Krembo, Milky and soup with shkedei merak in the clubs, but, barring a new lounge in TLV, I doubt they'd accomodate my desire for such wondrous goodies.

If you're so picky about what you eat you should bring your own food, regardless of the reason.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 2:18 am
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Originally Posted by entropy
In the real of kashrut, I enjoyed the table of kosher for passover goodies that CO had at the CLE and EWR pclubs. I don't know if/which other clubs had such things but it was good to see. (I wonder if they had it at IAH... they are certainly aware that CLE has a large Jewish population...if only they had the TLV flight to go with the matzo).
i have seen a kosher table at the iah E club for passover.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by AdamSouthFL
The discussion is focused on the airline's choice not to provide a qualified meal to those who observe strict religious or dietary laws, or those who have allegies to certain ingredients, when a meal is served on the flight. Those of us who are unhappy are not asking for something expensive. We desire to have a meal with our fellow passengers, the same meal, just that it is certified to our needs.
Nobody "forced" airlines to offer kosher meals. They have decided themself that it's good marketing. So, in this case, it was pretty bad marketing
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by ctownflyer
Demand for kosher products has been in an extended growth phase for quite some time now, so I disagree with your "sign of the times" statement.

More likely people got so used to ordering a kosher meal and not receiving it that people stopped requesting it.
Since domestically there are no meals served on any airlines besides CO obviously it's been on a decline.

I am assuming as well that since travelers are "used to" not getting meals and therefore not requesting Kosher meals, they forget to order the Kosher meals even on flights that do offer it!
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 9:02 pm
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Originally Posted by entropy
I think its a ridiculous request to have KSMLs on every flight. CO flies about 1500 flights from outstations (non-hubs) a day. Now look at the list of special meals. Imagine the logistics of having to accomodate that for every flight, from every station. Its not pretty.

Personally I think that with some re-working, it would be rather easy to make a standardized set of meals that can accomodate groups of passengers. A sauteed vegetable platter over rice could be kosher/halal/vegan/veggie/low sodium/lowfat...

In the real of kashrut, I enjoyed the table of kosher for passover goodies that CO had at the CLE and EWR pclubs. I don't know if/which other clubs had such things but it was good to see. (I wonder if they had it at IAH... they are certainly aware that CLE has a large Jewish population...if only they had the TLV flight to go with the matzo).

I know I'd be much happier if they had Krembo, Milky and soup with shkedei merak in the clubs, but, barring a new lounge in TLV, I doubt they'd accomodate my desire for such wondrous goodies.

If you're so picky about what you eat you should bring your own food, regardless of the reason.

I think its Ridiculous that CO doesnt offer a "Kosher Meal or snack" whenever there is that type of meal/snack service for everyone else. When all the Carriers did it a few yrs ago there was no problem with supplying a KSML meal or snack. And if a person is truely Kosher then except for some candy or potato chips theres NOTHING they can purchase to buy within an Airports Terminal.

Packing the food isnt an option as alot of the time TSA will tell You to ditch it or eat it before going thru Security. In as much as most Carriers do not offer any type of food, then its OK that they dont supply any type of Kosher food. However where as CO does supply food at meal times , then I feel they ought to Cater food to each persons needs! be it Halal, Kosher, low salt etc etc.

I dont care if its 15,000 stations a few yrs ago they were able and did provide Special Requests so they most certainly can do it w/o any problems.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:20 pm
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You can complain all you want about that..but CO changed to no special meals years ago to save money..if you have special needs you can bring your own food..you can complain about that til your blue in the face..its not going to bring it back..I think anyone on the board will tell you that!@:-)
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 11:29 pm
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just go to the president's club, grab some pretzels and fruit (make sure it doesn't have any bugs) and you're all set.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 12:24 am
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Originally Posted by entropy
just go to the president's club, grab some pretzels and fruit (make sure it doesn't have any bugs) and you're all set.
Grab some fruit?
You mean grab an apple.

I wish they would offer more fruit options in PC's, even if it were just some bananas...
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 1:44 am
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It is kinda funny...although I do not lead a kosher lifestyle, when flying NWA I always order the kosher option for my transpac flights because it is much better than the Y economy food. On the other hand, when flying CO I usually order the seafood option because it tastes better, especially the succulent shrimp. In terms of domestic flights, don't complain too much about a lack of special meals, or else the rest of us might go to AA standards of no food at all. (not even peanuts!)
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 5:52 am
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Originally Posted by CAL PHL FLYER
You can complain all you want about that..but CO changed to no special meals years ago to save money..if you have special needs you can bring your own food..you can complain about that til your blue in the face..its not going to bring it back..I think anyone on the board will tell you that!@:-)
I'll grant You it probably costs alittle more but I would venture to think that it doesnt cost that much more that a few meals/snacks here and there will cause CO to go into Chap11.

My take is any flight over 2 hrs should have Special meals, will it happen, Nope, but it should just the same if CO is all it says it is.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 8:45 am
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Originally Posted by craz
I think its Ridiculous that CO doesnt offer a "Kosher Meal or snack" whenever there is that type of meal/snack service for everyone else. When all the Carriers did it a few yrs ago there was no problem with supplying a KSML meal or snack. And if a person is truely Kosher then except for some candy or potato chips theres NOTHING they can purchase to buy within an Airports Terminal.

Packing the food isnt an option as alot of the time TSA will tell You to ditch it or eat it before going thru Security. In as much as most Carriers do not offer any type of food, then its OK that they dont supply any type of Kosher food. However where as CO does supply food at meal times , then I feel they ought to Cater food to each persons needs! be it Halal, Kosher, low salt etc etc.

I dont care if its 15,000 stations a few yrs ago they were able and did provide Special Requests so they most certainly can do it w/o any problems.
I think TSA only forbids liquids.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 9:23 am
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Originally Posted by craz
I think its Ridiculous that CO doesnt offer a "Kosher Meal or snack" whenever there is that type of meal/snack service for everyone else. When all the Carriers did it a few yrs ago there was no problem with supplying a KSML meal or snack. And if a person is truely Kosher then except for some candy or potato chips theres NOTHING they can purchase to buy within an Airports Terminal.

Packing the food isnt an option as alot of the time TSA will tell You to ditch it or eat it before going thru Security. In as much as most Carriers do not offer any type of food, then its OK that they dont supply any type of Kosher food. However where as CO does supply food at meal times , then I feel they ought to Cater food to each persons needs! be it Halal, Kosher, low salt etc etc.

I dont care if its 15,000 stations a few yrs ago they were able and did provide Special Requests so they most certainly can do it w/o any problems.
If CO is going to spend extra money, my opinion is that special meals at meal time are not a sound investment--I would rather they put the money into increasing pitch in their awful coach section. In fact, I would gladly forego ALL meal service in exchange for extra pitch.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:10 am
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If CO is going to spend extra money, my opinion is that special meals at meal time are not a sound investment--I would rather they put the money into increasing pitch in their awful coach section. In fact, I would gladly forego ALL meal service in exchange for extra pitch.
with CO out today with a great Profit gain from aloss last yr in a Q when most Carriers dont make any $$$. I'd be very surprised to see CO add any Pitch to their seats, heck Im sure they are hard at work trying to find a way to to do the opposite and make it less if that will allow them to add seats.

Thats the problem, if CO adds any room to its Pitch, they they will do so by charging more per tkt so that the end result will be an increase to the bottom line. No sense to add pitch and watch the bottom line go down since there will be fewer seats to sell, to even play this game as both TW & AA did and LOST, it would cost CO alot of $$$ and not knowing what the end results will be. Adding Special meals are Pennies in compared to $$ for seat Pitch. I dont expect CO to add Special Meals although they should.
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:34 am
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Originally Posted by entropy

Personally I think that with some re-working, it would be rather easy to make a standardized set of meals that can accomodate groups of passengers. A sauteed vegetable platter over rice could be kosher/halal/vegan/veggie/low sodium/lowfat...
Great idea!


Originally Posted by craz
And if a person is truely Kosher then except for some candy or potato chips theres NOTHING they can purchase to buy within an Airports Terminal.
Wouldn't a salad or some other veggie food option available at the airport qualify to be Kosher?
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