Post deleted since it was never my intent to offend anybody.

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BelissimAA

Sorry, but I'm going to have to come to the defense of my friend DHammer53 here, who merely posted what many other flyertalkers were thinking, and discussing... admittedly including myself.

Maybe some of us have just been around here long enough that WE are aware that none of the rest of us is the least bit concerned about anyone elses appearance. We have flyertalkers of all shapes, sizes, color, income, status level and even some of us with (eek) no status. Perhaps as a new person you werent so sure of the FT hospitality, and felt the need to post your "incentive".

If any concern of outside appearances was belayed, it was in your own posts. Both your introductory post and your first post in this thread, discussed your "outside appearance" as well as your "availability". So not being able to think of a less childish way to phrase this... "you started it".

As that has never been a criteria required for FT'ers...especially Seattle ones to converge upon someone arriving in our city, it became the cause of discussion and some speculation.

DHammer along with many other FT'ers offered me tours of their home city well before I was around here long enough for anyone to know what I looked like, and they will continue to do so.

Once you've become a true FT addict like the rest of us, you'll see that even Yankee Fans like DHammer53 are pretty standup guys. If he's bad fruit, then I have to say I'll hang out in the bottom of the barrel with him anyday.

That all being said..I truly am sorry I'm unable to attend the BBQ tomorrow. But you are in the very best of FT hands in your hosts for the day. ENJOY!!

~Missy

I don't want to start a flame war, but who really cares? Dan asked whether it was her picture in a way that insinuated that it wasn't. I am not saying she is or isn't who she says she is, and I don't care if she is who she says she is. I guess I just don't understand the infatuation with this lady.

Exactly my point, Darren.

Dan insinuated that I WASN'T who I purported to be, and he could've easily just asked me in private if he needed his curiosity satisfied. In fact, Dan didn't just insinuate, he out and out STATED "I can't believe you people are so gullible," as if I truly wasn't who I said I was.

That's not a way to make friends, and it's very insulting. How would you feel, Missy or Ldsant, if someone said that about you? Think about it from my perspective. I don't think what I said was any nastier than someone else hinting that I'm some kind of fraud. You want to say I started it? Fine. Perhaps I did, unintentionally. But I'm not the one talking behind people's backs.

AND, might I mention, if you've been reading this thread at all, Missy, Ldsant, , you should take the time to read my SECOND post. I said that I only mentioned the single thing to see if anyone was listening. I also said I was willing to do "girl stuff" as well, in another post. My statement about meeting men was meant in humor, and if you can't take it as such, if you feel you have to defend someone who was judging me first, I can't find a less childish way to say "it's your problem".

I think I've been very much above board in this thread, and quite friendly, and willing to meet anyone who wanted to meet me, until I was attacked openly by someone who doesn't know a thing about me, and YES, he did judge me first.

This is the same person who said he was willing to retract his statement if necessary, who still has yet to retract his statement. You may see a different person, but I haven't. Not once has he attempted to resolve things since his post; not once has he emailed me to apologize for prejudging me. I've only heard from his friends that I'm picking on the bully, and he's really the one who started this animosity.

If you've come to these conclusions, I'm sorry, but they're not the right conclusions. From the beginning I've been willing to meet anyone, been willing to talk to anyone, I've replied to every email sent to me. It is quite insulting to be thought of as a fraud and have my picture discussed behind my back as if I have something to hide and I'm duping innocent people.

That being said, if anyone cares to meet me tomorrow, fine. I'm really not in the mood to meet anyone because I'm not sure who's been talking trash about me and who hasn't. I'm sorry, but I'll just let you guys continue with your plans and I'll meet some of the friends I already know in Seattle. I was only trying to reach out and make new friends.

Apparently posting pictures is not the way to do it. Lesson learned.

I now return you to your regularly scheduled life.

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I am living in technology hell tonight!

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I'm right next to ya!

Bellisima,

Maybe DHammer is busy? We don't all get the opportunity to check in here as often as we would like. I don't think you will find anyone that will agree with you that he is a "bully". He is a very well respected member of the Community who seems to go out of his way to help FT'rs.

And you may be right that posting a photo such as yours is not the way it is usually done. At least I have never seen it done in the time I have participated.

Nevertheless, I wish you well and hope that you can put the issue aside. I agree with the posters above who stated that your SEA hosts are indeed very generous in the time that they want to give you. Punki is delightful and a very busy gal. You would love getting to know her.

lalala THANKS, I'd love to know more about this viewing location! I believe my email is in my profile if you'd prefer to do it that way.

edited -- an attempt -- hopefully not futile -- to fix code . . . (if it didn't come out right this time, oh well . . .



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Really? He sure went out of his way to help me, didn't he?

Again, read my post. Anyone who has the gall to state that I'm some kind of fraud isn't trying to help a fellow FT'er. His comment was inappropriate, stating that I was some kind of liar or a fraud. And how well do we know ANYONE really? Perhaps his comment is revealing his true nature.

But maybe I'm just passing judgment. Oh, heaven forbid I prejudge anyone in this thread!

Pardon my frankness, but I call it like I see it. I haven't seen much, but I don't like or care to know what I've seen so far.

But then again, heaven forbid I prejudge anyone in this thread! Heaven forbid I'm offended by being called a liar and a fraud in not so many words! Heaven forbid I'm attacked openly for trying to defend myself and having the courage and the decency to dignify an undignifiable response when all I wanted to do was to meet some new people in a less than conventional way.

My problem lies not with anyone in Seattle, except for Dan and anyone else who feels that it's somehow wrong to defend oneself against a very twisted form of bigotry.



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BellamisaAA

I am sorry you will not have the chance to meet some wonderful FT people and disprove all the rumors. Though I must say that I personally wonder at your choice to not prove all the gossips WRONG by showing up and proving that that is your REAL picture.

DHammer is a long time well respected member of this board and I do not recall any occaison that someone has shown up here saying Im'm 28,blond and beautiful - here is a staged airbrushed picture come meet me sugar daddy please. It was definately a first for a board dedicated to flying!!!

So in your future cruising of Bulletin Boards maybe follow standard rules - lurk and read a bunch of posts - see what the etiquette of that board is- then post.

Enjoy your trip to SEA

I had every intention of proving that it's my REAL picture until I was attacked. In fact, why don't you all show up at the airport tomorrow to make sure I am who I say I am? I'll be the blonde in the lilac halter top and black pants, meeting my friend at the security checkpoint outside the AA concourse.

Is that what you think? Who else wants to prejudge me? Who else wants to make snarky remarks at my expense? I NEVER, EVER in my posts said I was looking for a sugar daddy or a man at all. What I did say is that it was a JOKE. But maybe humor is misplaced around here as well.

I can't imagine the many people who are sitting here, casually reading these boards who have had nothing to contribute until now. What are you, jan_az, truly contributing to this thread, except to add insult to injury?

And for your information, I didn't have the benefit of leisure to wait and lurk until I felt comfortable with etiquette. My flight was in less than two weeks, and being new, I wanted to make plans early.

So all of you lurkers and 'contributors' and very sweet, friendly people with which I've had the pleasure of talking, I apologize for having breached said delicate rules of electronic protocol. I shall be more mindful in the future. But as to the present, I'd like people to stop making cheap potshots at my expense. Let's just drop this, OK? It's not worth any of our time.

And jan_az, who apparently doesn't even live in Seattle, my name is BellissimAA, NOT Bellamisa. You could at least spell my user name correctly.

Again, I'll be the blonde in the lilac halter top. Come to the checkpoint and find me if you want to see for yourself. I encourage it.

BellisimAA- you truly will be missing out on the best hospitality on FT. I am sad and upset at the hard time certain people sent your way. This truly means that I have no reason for backing out of helping thumbgirl tomorrow.

btw- I'm still heading to greg's for grub!