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SEE NEW THREAD - 50K AA Cards


As of Sunday August 25, 2013:
Reports indicate personal cards can no longer be rapidly churned.

Click HERE to review the previous thread on this topic.

Recommended Application Procedure:
Clear cache and cookies prior to applying or use an incognito or private browsing session to apply. Opening multiple different apps in different windows or tabs or failing to clear cookies/cache has resulted in people receiving a lesser offer.

For information on the Executive version of this card, with $450 annual fee, not waived, see: Up to 100k miles Citi Executive AAdvantage offers

MOST CURRENT 50K LINKS:

Citi Personal and Business:50K miles & two Admirals Club one-day passes after $3000 spend in 3 months, $95 fee waived first year.

Citi AA Platinum Personal Mastercard, 50,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here. This is a CHIP and Signature card.

Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC requires $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business and Personal MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to the following application pages:
Landing page for 50K Business MC after $3K spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. This page leads to this application page.

OTHER PERSONAL CARDS

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.

Citi Platinum Select Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year.

Citi Gold Mastercard. 25,000 miles after $750 spend in 3 months. $50 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here

If you are already a Citigold customer, read this post from the Miles Professor about another 50K offer from your branch office for the American Airlines credit card.

OTHER BUSINESS CARDS

Citi Business MasterCard. 40,000 miles after $3k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 35,000 miles after $1.5k spend in 3 months.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Landing page available here.

Citi Business Mastercard. 30,000 miles after $1k spend in 3 months. $95 annual fee, waived first year. Up to $100 statement credit for AA purchases. Landing page available here.


Citibank Contacts/Resources (Please add the others that you know)
  • Application status: https://www.accountonline.com/cards/...?screenID=3187
  • (800) 695-5171 – Personal Application Status and Reconsideration Line with live rep
  • (800) 763-9795 – General Personal Application Inquiries with live rep
  • (800) 645-7240 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (800) 288-4653 – Business Application Status and Reconsideration Line, dial option 3 then option 1 for application status
  • (866) 606-2787 – General Application and Account Questions with live rep
  • (888) 201-4523 – Application status
  • (866) 606-2961 – Reconsideration Line.
  • Twitter : @AskCiti. Very powerful tool.
  • Executive Office - useful for getting a more empowered agent for reconsideration purposes: CitiBank Executive Review Department, P.O. Box 6000, Sioux Falls, SD 57117

FAQ
  1. Are these AA cards churnable?
  2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
  4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
  5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
  6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
  7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
  8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
  9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
  10. When will my bonus miles post?
  11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
  12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
  13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
  14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?

1. Are these AA cards churnable?
Yes and No. The general rules are:
  • Personal AA cards: As of August 25, 2013 all linked personal AA cards in this thread can be churned only after Citi decides that you are no longer an existing cardmember. This usually occurs between 12 and 26 months after your last successful AA personal card approval of any type including AA Executive card(s). If you want both a Platinum card and an Executive AA card and are eligible under the 12-26 month rule, get the Platinum card first or the Executive card will restart the clock. Although it is not a hard-and-fast rule, 18 months after previous approval is the most common. YMMV. You do not need to cancel old personal cards.
    • Note: You cannot circumvent this rule by applying for a card type different from your previous Citi AA card. If your last personal AA card was a Visa, the waiting period for your next personal AA card will be the same regardless of whether you apply for a Visa, MC, or Amex.

  • Business AA cards: have been churnable repeatedly by some people without restriction other than the general Citi application rules. Apply once every 91-95 days. For unknown reasons, some other people have been unable to churn business cards at all. Also, some (but not all) people need to completely cancel their previous business card (ie, cancel both the card account and the associated master account) before they can apply for another business card.

    Note: If you encounter difficulty in obtaining a Citi AA business card after holding one before, it may because of the unusual way Citi sets up business accounts. The business account per se has its own master number; like a standard MC/Visa, this master account number is 16 digits. In addition, each card on the account has its own 16-digit card number. Each of these numbers, including the number for the primary cardholder, is different from the master account number.

    Sometimes, when you call to close your card account, all the card numbers are canceled but the master account remains open. When this happens, subsequent applications for a business card may encounter difficulty. Online, there should be a dropdown of accounts under your business login; the number that match your card number is your card account, the number that does not match your card number is your master account. When cancelling, ask to cancel both accounts, giving the last 4 digts of each (as shown in that dropdown).


2. What are the most current time-restriction rules in applying for all Citi cards?
  • Only 1 Citi application of any kind per week (8 days to be safe).
  • No more than 2 Citi applications of any kind in 60 days (65 days to be safe).
  • No more than 1 Citi business application in 90 days (95 to be safe). This does not override the rules above.

While the day limits are a little flexible by a few days either way and YMMV, the rules themselves are not flexible. Note: In applying the rules above, count all Citi applications, including denials and/or applications for non-AA cards.

Mixed type Example:
Day 1 60K HHonors Visa
Day 9 or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa
Day 66 or later 50K Business #1
Day 74 or later 60K Executive
Day 161 or later 50K Business #2
18 Months, 74 days or later 50K Personal Platinum Visa

Not sure what day you applied? The date is written year, month, day in the application number: 201402280000 means you applied on Feb 28, 2014


3. Do I need to close existing cards before applying?
No. There is no requirement that you close previous personal accounts. People have reported having 4 or more of the exact same card. However, many people have reported problems getting AA Business cards if they have an open Business account.


4. When should I close existing Citi accounts?
This is a matter of personal preference. Citi cards can be closed immediately after receiving a bonus and paying off the balance. There are no verifiable reports of Citi clawing back miles (exception - miles were clawed back for returned merchandise around November 2011).

Reasons to keep accounts open:
  • Having large credit lines improves your utilization percentage.
  • Maintaining old cards improves average age of cards.
  • Credit lines can be moved from old cards to new cards.
  • Anecdotal evidence suggests that Citi counts the credit lines of recently-closed accounts for 3-6 months against your total available credit.
  • You can receive retention offers once every 6 months per card. See this thread for details on the latest retention offers.

Reasons to close accounts:
  • Having a large amount of available credit with Citi will eventually reduce your chances of instant approval. Your application will automatically be reviewed if your CL's total 75K or more. This may also result in a large disparity between existing account CL's and new CL's, such as 20K, 20K and 1K for a new card, as an example.
  • There is little incentive to pay an annual fee if it is not waived.
  • The annual fee on Business cards is rarely waived.
  • Having a large number of open Citi cards will show up on your credit report and may affect non-Citi applications as well as the overall age of your accounts.


5. Can I apply for a business card if I don’t have a business?
Anyone can apply for a business card. You do not need a registered business with an EIN. If you do not have a business with an EIN or with bills/accounts in the business name, you can apply using your name as the business. The three possibilities are that: 1. You could be approved unconditionally, 2. You could be asked to fax a couple of bills or accounts (water, electricity, gas, cable, or phone bills, bank accounts, etc.) in the name of the business to Citi, or 3. You could be required to fill out and send a 4506-T tax form. Whatever you do do not make up income etc. about the business. Plenty of people have been issued cards for businesses with $0 annual revenue, 1-5 employees, and 0 years in business.


6. Can I buy Visa gift cards to meet my minimum spend?
Purchases from banks are almost always coded as a cash advance regardless of what they are for. Purchases from stores, e.g. CVS, are almost always coded as a purchase.
If you are concerned about it, it’s recommended to send a secure message Citi and have them set your Cash Advance limit to zero. Phone CSRs often say they can not do this.


7. Do I get 10% back when redeeming miles for awards?
It depends. First, the rebate program (which began in April 2012) applies only to holders of these cards:
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage Visa Signature
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World MasterCard
  • Citi Platinum Select AAdvantage World Elite MasterCard
  • Citi Select AAdvantage American Express
It does not apply to the Citi Gold World MasterCard, Citi Executive products, or some of the Citi Business cards.

Also, the maximum rebate for any cardholder in a single calendar year is 10,000 miles. Having more than one qualifying Citi AA card will not allow you to receive a larger rebate; the restriction applies per AAdvantage account.

For more on the 10% rebate benefit, see Citi 10% miles back / rebate for reward redemption.


8. Do I have to use my own AAdvantage number on applications?
Yes. The name on the card application must match the name on the AAdvantage account. You cannot apply for multiple cards for different people and use the same AAdvantage account number. AA does not care or even know how many Citi accounts you have so there is no harm in having your AAdvantage account number associated with multiple cards in your name. If you forget to add your AAdvantage account number to your application, an AAdvantage account in your name will be created and can later be merged with your existing account by calling AA.


9. There is nothing on the application page stating the bonus miles. How do I know what I will be getting?
You need to have faith in the people here if you want to maximize your miles. The people on this board constantly apply for these cards and report back what they are told are the benefits and what they actually receive. The way Citi works is that if you are approved for a card, you will get the bonus associated with the link you applied under as long as you make the minimum spend. It does not matter if you already had the card or anything else. If you are approved - then you get the bonus. The two exceptions to this are: 1. If you fail to clear your cache and accidentally load a cached application, you get the miles associated with that application and 2. Some people have recently succeeded in 'bumping the bonus' by contacting Citi and requesting a match to a 50K offer after applying for a 40K card. If you don't feel like trusting in the experiences of others, then apply for an offer with a landing page.


10. When will my bonus miles post?
Two working days after the date of the statement containing the charge that takes you across the spend threshold. It posts overnight, it'll be there when you check your AAdvantage account in the morning.


11. I met the minimum spend. Why does my statement say "Miles Reported to AA: 0"?
No one knows exactly why this is happening to some people (Citi blames AA, AA blames Citi, and both blame the merger). It supposedly has something to do with the time it takes them to properly link your AAdvantage number to your card. There are two ways to deal with this:
  • Wait 1-2 statement periods, and see if the points post on their own. Per Citi, it can take this long for the accounts to link.
  • Call AA (1-800-882-8880) and open a case about it. Most people have had their miles post within 2 weeks of doing this.

For ongoing discussion, see Some AA Citi Card miles not transferred to AAdvantage accounts [Q3 2013 - Q1 2014]


12. Can I cancel a card using secure messaging?
Yes, assuming you have set up the credit card in your Citi account. Quick and easy.


13. I activated the card online and got a message about this card replacing an old card. What does that mean?
When activating cards online, Citi normally displays the text:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."
This is normal and is supposed to be displayed when activating a replacement card but it seems to display even when activating a brand new card. This is nothing to worry about.


14. Which credit bureau does Citi pull and can I force them to use a different one?
Citi appears to use Experian most frequently, followed by Equifax. For some people they pull both. It depends on where you are located. You can check the Credit Boards database to see where card issuers have pulled recently.

For the most part, freezing Experian, or another bureau, will not cause Citi to pull a different bureau. They will almost certainly require you to unfreeze the bureau they wish to pull or deny your application. Some people have been successful providing the PIN but others have not. Mostly, freezing a credit bureau in an attempt to force Citi to pull a different one seems to waste time, money, and effort for little result. But YMMV.

For one person's experiences with various card issuers, check here.


For rules and info on any offers that include Admirals club passes or statement credits, see here.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:35 pm
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Originally Posted by sftravelninja
So that means I can just get the Visa again (i got approved May 1 for the visa so was going to do master card) since it's been over 90 days. I guess from my understanding was that you had to wait 18 months and have now confused myself because basically what I'm reading now is 90 days and you can churn the same card. I guess i just need clarification that I'm not reading incorrectly.
Nope, recently people have only needed to wait 8 days after the first app and get 2 of the same card in under 2 weeks. Similar to the 2BM but not on the same day and you get at least 2 hard pulls now.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:37 pm
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Originally Posted by sftravelninja
So that means I can just get the Visa again (i got approved May 1 for the visa so was going to do master card) since it's been over 90 days. I guess from my understanding was that you had to wait 18 months and have now confused myself because basically what I'm reading now is 90 days and you can churn the same card. I guess i just need clarification that I'm not reading incorrectly.
All the old (~18 month) rules are obsolete with regard to the personal links in the wiki. Reread the wiki until you get it. No, it doesn't really make sense from Citi's standpoint. Read it again. You can get a personal card today, 8 days from now, 65 days and 73 days from now. Or just get one every 33 days. Any combination including all the same card. Enjoy.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:43 pm
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Originally Posted by djrez4
Who knows. The first card from last week was an instant $10k (Citi gives me $10k every time). This is the first time I've tried the 8-day double instead of the 2BM. I'm just going to leave it alone and let them sort it out. I haven't even received an inquiry alert yet.

I was worried that it was because I forgot to use an incognito window for the app.
Just got this email:

Why we're writing you
Thank you for applying for the Citi(R) Platinum Select(R)
/ AAdvantage(R) Visa(R) Signature account. We are unable to
verify some of the required credit information. To
continue processing your application, please provide the
following documentation:

o Telephone bill copy must be a residential phone
bill, dated within the past 60 days, stating your name,
mailing address and phone number.* (Cellular
phone bills are not acceptable) OR utility
bill copy, must be dated within the past 60 days,
stating your name and mailing address. Can be a water,
cable, electric, sewer or gas bill.

*If the phone bill is not in your name, you
must also include a copy of a mortgage, bank or
credit card statement, dated within the past 60 days,
that clearly states your name and mailing address.

Here's what you need to do
Please send the requested information along with a copy of
this email to

Citibank, N.A.
PO Box 6495
Sioux Falls, SD 57117-6495

Do not send original documents since we are unable to return
them.

We must receive the requested items within 30 days from
the date of this email or we will consider this application
withdrawn. Do not provide this information by replying
to this email, as we cannot process individual messages
arriving at this address.

We look forward to having the opportunity to serve you.

Sincerely,

R. M. Pick
Credit Operations Department

AmericanAirlines, AAdvantage and Million Miler are marks of
American Airlines, Inc.

NOTICE: The federal Equal Credit Opportunity Act prohibits
creditors from discriminating against credit applicants
on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin,
sex, marital status, age (provided the applicant has the
capacity to enter into a binding contract); because all
or part of the applicant's income derives from any public
assistance program; or because the applicant has in
good faith exercised any right under the Consumer Credit
Protection Act. The federal agency that administers
compliance with this law concerning this creditor is the
Bureau of Consumer Financial Protection, 1700 G Street,
N.W., Washington, DC 20006.

The creditor is Citibank, N.A., 701 E. 60th St. N.,
Sioux Falls, SD 57104. Please direct any questions to the
Customer Service address below.
Just got approved for the exact same card last week and NOW they need address verification??
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 9:50 pm
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Originally Posted by djrez4
Just got this email:



Just got approved for the exact same card last week and NOW they need address verification??

It looks like identity theft is rampant. Let's wait and see how many more will report the same treatment.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 10:29 pm
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Originally Posted by PaulMSN
I received my 3rd Citi AA Platinum Visa today and called to confirm the 50,000 miles for $3,000 spend in 3 months.

So now I have 6 Citi AA cards, 5 since March, plus a lonely Citi Hilton Visa. Eventually I'll have 240,000 AA miles from bonuses alone -- I like this deal.

One weird thing -- I activated the card online, and this paragraph appeared:

"This account replaces your old account, which is now closed. Statements for your old account will be available for up to 6 months. Your current account summary and unbilled transactions are now listed under your new account number."

I was a bit perturbed, but all my other accounts are still there, so I think it's just some misplaced verbiage.
Exact same wording when I activated my 2nd Citi Hhonors Visa. Like you said, I think it is misplaced verbiage, as all my Citi cards work.
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Old Aug 15, 2013, 11:07 pm
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Originally Posted by sftravelninja
So that means I can just get the Visa again (i got approved May 1 for the visa so was going to do master card) since it's been over 90 days. I guess from my understanding was that you had to wait 18 months and have now confused myself because basically what I'm reading now is 90 days and you can churn the same card. I guess i just need clarification that I'm not reading incorrectly.
Read the Wiki EVERYTHING is explained in there on what you are asking. BTW, reading back 20 page would have answered your questions for you.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 1:34 am
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Citi AA World MC 40,000 posted this evening, along with the 2,500 from the Citi AA Gold Visa 3x promo, so I'm sitting on a bigger pile of miles than I'm used to. Have to go get myself a ticket to somewhere.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 6:34 am
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First time posting with my experience. I always read every part of the threads and they usually answer my questions!
Husband's apps:
2/23: Citi Amex (30K posted)
2/23: Citi MC (50k posted, did 2 BM)
5/13: Citi Biz Visa (50K posted)
8/8: Citi Visa approved after chat to move credit (card came yesterday)
8/16: Citi Visa approved after chat to move credit

weird thing is in the chat today Citi said he had 3 cards, maybe they don't count the Biz card when looking at approving new personal card?
On the other hand my cards were the same as his, however, when I applied in the 8th, I received denial. Waiting on letter. But I also applied for more cards than he has recently and his name is on our mortgage which I think raises his score. Either way, with all of our cards we will have accumulated 380K since Jan/Feb. Wow is all I can say.
Hoping to contribute more to FT in the future! Thanks to all those that work on the Wiki's and give data points, much appreciated!!
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 6:43 am
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Originally Posted by BonusLover
It looks like identity theft is rampant. Let's wait and see how many more will report the same treatment.
Turns out it was because we moved last month. Wasn't an issue for the first card, but the second one...!

Phone rep says you can mail, fax, or email documents to Citi. I chose email to [email protected]. We'll see what happens next.

I also finally got an inquiry alert for the 15th. Applied on the 14th. Looks like there's a delay right now.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by djrez4
Turns out it was because we moved last month. Wasn't an issue for the first card, but the second one...!

Phone rep says you can mail, fax, or email documents to Citi. I chose email to [email protected]. We'll see what happens next.

I also finally got an inquiry alert for the 15th. Applied on the 14th. Looks like there's a delay right now.
I had to do the same about a month ago as we had just moved as well. I used the email option and called in the next day. They were able to see what I had emailed in and approved me instantly during that call. Good luck! ^
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 8:19 am
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Data point:

8/8/13: 1st Citi AA Visa - APPROVED instantly
8/16/13: 2nd Citi AA Visa - APPROVED instantly

Also have Citi AA Biz (applied and approved in Feb 2013 after a call from Citi).

Used to have a Citi Hilton Reserve and a couple of regular Citi Hilton cards.

I will NOT pursue a 3rd Citi AA Visa unlike what some other FTers intend to do because I would like to keep my credit report and score "healthy" (i.e., I am thinking about future offers)
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by Nick311
I had to do the same about a month ago as we had just moved as well. I used the email option and called in the next day. They were able to see what I had emailed in and approved me instantly during that call. Good luck! ^
Thanks. A bit annoying that they fail to mention the email and fax options in the "we need your utility bill" email. Seems like it would be a lot easier for everyone involved. Then again, since when have banks done things the easy way?
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 9:08 am
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Originally Posted by BonusLover
Data point:

8/8/13: 1st Citi AA Visa - APPROVED instantly
8/16/13: 2nd Citi AA Visa - APPROVED instantly

Also have Citi AA Biz (applied and approved in Feb 2013 after a call from Citi).

Used to have a Citi Hilton Reserve and a couple of regular Citi Hilton cards.

I will NOT pursue a 3rd Citi AA Visa unlike what some other FTers intend to do because I would like to keep my credit report and score "healthy" (i.e., I am thinking about future offers)
That doesn't make much sense. This is a great offer - what are you holding out for? Its very unlikely that the 75k aa card is coming back. Plus, one or two more pulls two months from now are only going to affect your score 5-10 points, while at the same time the effect from you pulls from now will be falling off. So your score should still be "healthy".
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 9:19 am
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Originally Posted by duffmankc
That doesn't make much sense. This is a great offer - what are you holding out for? Its very unlikely that the 75k aa card is coming back. Plus, one or two more pulls two months from now are only going to affect your score 5-10 points, while at the same time the effect from you pulls from now will be falling off. So your score should still be "healthy".
I already have 13 Experian pulls in my credit report, 8 from this year alone. I don't think I can stretch it by too much without "breaking" it at some point. Also, I will have enough AA miles for my travel plans in the foreseeable future; need to collect some additional hotel points, though. I am also thinking about getting a new car.
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Old Aug 16, 2013, 9:59 am
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Originally Posted by Blackshag
First time posting with my experience. I always read every part of the threads and they usually answer my questions!
Welcome to FT! Glad things are working out your way (for the most part) and you are accumulating tons of miles!

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