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Situation in Wuhan?

Old Feb 13, 20, 4:07 pm
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Originally Posted by trueblu View Post
Not sure how this example would apply to the average person, and I include myself in that. Yes, the very few activist bloggers would be able to get their information out, maybe, but not the average Jo. It's genuinely possible that the average Wuhan resident hasn't tried to access anything except WeChat and gov approved sites the last 3 weeks...so maybe we can't really tell, but most major international news channels have been trying to keep in touch with 'local reporters' to some extent, would be surprised if none of those people had noticed anything.

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Old Feb 13, 20, 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by plunet View Post
From what I know there are no basic internal communication restrictions but anyone posting what are determined to be rumours or sharing information that destabilises social life they may find their online accounts or connectivity suspended.
Sounds similar to how the doctor was punished for spreading rumors in late 2019/early Jan. Fortunately the government was able to put a stop to those dastardly rumors!

I seriously canít imagine how awful it is to be living in Wuhan now and it seems the quarantine measures are taking hold in other provinces as the government goes all out on the peopleís war. Anyone who can would be well advised to leave the mainland now if they havenít already.
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Old Feb 13, 20, 5:19 pm
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Originally Posted by STS-134 View Post
It's a cat and mouse game. Circumvention technologies evolve along with censorship.
I don't doubt that at all, but I would be hard-pressed to believe that a significant number of people know how to "flip the Wall." Just for the sake of argument, suppose 10,000 people in a city of 10M are tech-savvy enough to detect loopholes in the system. That would be 0.1% leakage -- as watertight as it gets. And I can't fathom more people than that to be able to do this.

Originally Posted by travelinmanS View Post
I seriously canít imagine how awful it is to be living in Wuhan now and it seems the quarantine measures are taking hold in other provinces as the government goes all out on the peopleís war. Anyone who can would be well advised to leave the mainland now if they havenít already.
FWIW, Taiwanese media are having a field day sensationalizing the degree of control that China has undertaken. Last week, they broadcasted nonstop footages of Shanghai PSB ramming into homes and smashing mahjong tables because of a (national? provincial?) edict banning non-family members from congregating, even in private homes. And now they are talking about a new law immediately affecting Guangzhou and Shenzhen that, for the first time since the Cultural Revolution, allows the local government to confiscate private property if it deems necessary for fighting the virus.
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Old Feb 13, 20, 9:41 pm
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FWIW, Taiwanese media are having a field day sensationalizing the degree of control that China has undertaken. Last week, they broadcasted nonstop footages of Shanghai PSB ramming into homes and smashing mahjong tables because of a (national? provincial?) edict banning non-family members from congregating, even in private homes. And now they are talking about a new law immediately affecting Guangzhou and Shenzhen that, for the first time since the Cultural Revolution, allows the local government to confiscate private property if it deems necessary for fighting the virus.[/QUOTE]

The videos I have been seeing are mostly small mahjong clubs that continue to operate despite the ban. The kind that operate in a converted residential apartment. A lot are circulating on wechat and have not been scrubbed, so this seems to be information they want to let out.

Any idea what the purpose of confiscating private property is about? That worries me a bit, one of our facilities is in a smaller city where the local govt officials are going around turning off power to keep certain businesses from operating. There is a definite level of over-reaction there.
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Old Feb 14, 20, 3:52 pm
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Looks like Marriott has suspended all operations withing 50 miles of Wuhan.

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Old Feb 14, 20, 9:25 pm
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Old Feb 18, 20, 12:15 pm
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"...the very few activist bloggers would be able to get their information out, maybe, but not the average Jo. It's genuinely possible that the average Wuhan resident hasn't tried to access anything except WeChat and gov approved sites the last 3 weeks..." - most Chinese don't care about accessing Facebook or other banned sites. They are quite happy with their "intranet". Those who care have figured out their way around the Wall.
"...I seriously can’t imagine how awful it is to be living in Wuhan now..." - I have a friend who lives in the center of Wuhan. She is in good spirit, goes to work every day (office job for the government making payments to handicapped) and no food shortage. Getting "dressed up" for work is a bit of a pain but she is not complaining.
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