Nightmare at DCA
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Many 'business' service providers and data center hosting services charge their clients based on the amount of data passed between their network/website and the internet.
If they're being charged based on traffic (and lots of people are accessing the video), it can add up.
End user (consumer) ISP's here in the US have generally ended the practice of charging based on the amount of data transferred during a month.
FWIW, in other parts of the world I still know of end user (consumer) ISP's that charge their users based on the amount of data xfered each month. Some will give you xxx megs/month and then charge a fixed rate per megabyte for anything above that cap. If you want, you can compare it to a cell phone plan where you get 500 minutes a month for $50; once you go over the 500 minutes, it is 35 cents/minute.
With some of these ISPs, every megabyte downloaded in excess of your monthly limit will incurr a fee. View too many videos, do too much surfing, or download one too many files, and you'll end up with a nasty bill at the end of the month.
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Likewise, I can't believe they would hire a contractor to upload these very simple files. A lot of 10-year-olds could do the job during recess.
I think you also underestimate the work being done too. That would be like me saying that a paralegal does all a lawyer's work and only calls them on the golf course when they have a question.
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In doing PR, you don't want the public to be left to make judgements on their own, but you do want them to come to the conclusion you set up for them, but make it seem that they came up with it on their own. It would have been better if TSA never posted the videos, and let the battle happen in less synchronous media (where TSA could have been seen as duly authoritarian, but still trying to iron out a system that is only a few years old -- that is manageable and doesn't collide with common notions)...trying to do your own PR on the web is a slippery slope, and is best done by people with nothing to lose and everything to gain.
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The cup itself hasn't been called into question as a dangerous item; but its contents were, thus contaminating it or some such nonsense.
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I agree
I agree that she seemed to spill the cup intentionally.
The problem I have is a lot of time elapsed between the spill and the clean-up and none of the agents were concerned about the other passengers tripping and falling.
Also, why did the agent have to escort her to the end of the checkpoint. This I feel could be seen as provoking her. He culd have simple said you have to exit and then stay at a distance from her and make sure she exited before being rescreened.
After the spill, the TSA should have let her go and then gotten a clean-up crew. That to me was a form of public humiliation....
The problem I have is a lot of time elapsed between the spill and the clean-up and none of the agents were concerned about the other passengers tripping and falling.
Also, why did the agent have to escort her to the end of the checkpoint. This I feel could be seen as provoking her. He culd have simple said you have to exit and then stay at a distance from her and make sure she exited before being rescreened.
After the spill, the TSA should have let her go and then gotten a clean-up crew. That to me was a form of public humiliation....
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I don't have any comments on this situation one way or the other. Bart's comment is interesting, however. I have been a LEO for nearly 15 years now. The area I patrol frequently is near a major airport. In my experience the absolute WORST violators of this apparent policy are people involved in federal law enforcement and the TSA. Whenever I stop them for speeding or driving recklessly (which is at least once a week) they are the FIRST to make certain I know who they are and who they work for.
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He left still angry but holding a citation that he richly deserved.
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He left still angry but holding a citation that he richly deserved.
i agree that you should treat everyone the same, just curious whether it extends to your 'brothers.' anyhow, im pretty upset at LAX Airport PD because they cited me for speeding at 0145 AM when I was going with the flow of traffic. They treated the stop like a felony stop (bunch of squad cars for backup, lots of flashlights, "put your hands where I can see them" deal..). and it was all while I exited the employee lot, in my TSA uniform. I was polite and never asked for any 'favors' or anything, just pretended I was out of uniform. it was the LEO that made remarked that I was a TSA'er and was getting off work .. bleh, i believe i received 'preferential' treatment as a TSO that day, but life goes on. 30minutes later, lots of waiting and a ticket i'm going to contest.
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Don't you ever stick to the topic at hand?
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I think this thread is way OT....
The issue should be "why not let kids or adults take a drink of their liquid and then let them through security".
Let's not bad mouth the TSA for enforcing a rule. If that agent did not ask her to dispose of the water, he or she could have been fired. They were just doing their job.
Now the poor choice of words is another story and that can be handled offline.
Let's hope that the "only good that comes out of this incident" could be lightening up the rules a bit.
In closing, let's thank the TSA for just plain doing their job!
The issue should be "why not let kids or adults take a drink of their liquid and then let them through security".
Let's not bad mouth the TSA for enforcing a rule. If that agent did not ask her to dispose of the water, he or she could have been fired. They were just doing their job.
Now the poor choice of words is another story and that can be handled offline.
Let's hope that the "only good that comes out of this incident" could be lightening up the rules a bit.
In closing, let's thank the TSA for just plain doing their job!
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