View Poll Results: Do you agree or disagree with the action undertaken by MKEbound?
Agree
766
75.92%
Disagree
144
14.27%
Neither agree nor disagree
75
7.43%
Not sure
24
2.38%
Voters: 1009. You may not vote on this poll
I was detained at the TSA checkpoint for about 25 minutes today
Sep 27, 2006, 11:50 am
#226
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: America's Finest City
Posts: 10,936
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
Now for the fun one:
Arabic: كيبي هاولي هو يحتسي
Arabic: كيبي هاولي هو يحتسي
Sep 27, 2006, 11:54 am
#227
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: America's Finest City
Posts: 10,936
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
German: Kip Hawley ist ein Idiot
Kip Hawley ist ein Dummkopf.
Sep 27, 2006, 11:59 am
#228
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: BWI
Programs: AA Gold, HH Diamond, National Emerald Executive, TSA Disparager Gold
Posts: 15,180
I just sent a tip to the Register. They posted the widely circulated analysis of the 8/10 ban, so I'm hoping they'll pick up on this too.
Sep 27, 2006, 12:00 pm
#229
Join Date: Jan 2006
Programs: Skyteam
Posts: 5,759
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
From my post several pages back:
As a public service to my fellow FTers, here you go:
English: Kip Hawley is an idiot.
French: Kip Hawley est un idiot
Spanish: La kilolibra Hawley es un idiota
German: Kip Hawley ist ein Idiot
Italian: Il Kip Hawley è un idiot
Arabic: كيبي هاولي هو يحتسي
Korean: 키프는 바보야
As a public service to my fellow FTers, here you go:
English: Kip Hawley is an idiot.
French: Kip Hawley est un idiot
Spanish: La kilolibra Hawley es un idiota
German: Kip Hawley ist ein Idiot
Italian: Il Kip Hawley è un idiot
Arabic: كيبي هاولي هو يحتسي
Korean: 키프는 바보야
Sep 27, 2006, 12:02 pm
#230
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: DEN
Programs: UA 1MM, Delta Plat
Posts: 11,224
Originally Posted by LLM
Auf deutsch I prefer:
Kip Hawley ist ein Dummkopf.
Kip Hawley ist ein Dummkopf.
^ To those who have a problem with the wording, how about starting a campaign for single work protests, like "Idiotic," "Moronic," etc.? Bold letters on our quart bags.
Sep 27, 2006, 12:11 pm
#231
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: California
Programs: UA 1K, Marriott
Posts: 218
We certainly have gone too far with our bogus security at the airports! Does anyone actually feel safer? Your freedom of speech was definitely taken away by a TSA worker - sorry you had to experience this, but I guess we all have to remember that we can't speak freely anymore. America is not what our ancestors started anymore!
Sep 27, 2006, 12:11 pm
#232
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
Thanks to Google's translator, here's "FWAAA's toiletries"
فواا في الحمام
فواا في الحمام
Sep 27, 2006, 12:17 pm
#233
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: America's Finest City
Posts: 10,936
Originally Posted by FWAAA
Thanks to Google's translator, here's "FWAAA's toiletries"
فواا في الحمام
فواا في الحمام
. Just turn it around to put toiletries first and then FWAAA and leave out the fee (their middle word) which is unnecessary.
Sep 27, 2006, 12:26 pm
#234
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: May 2001
Location: LAX; AA EXP, MM; HH Gold
Posts: 31,789
Originally Posted by LLM
Incorrect. This means FWAAA is in the toiletries . Just turn it around to put toiletries first and then FWAAA and leave out the fee (their middle word) which is unnecessary.
. Just turn it around to put toiletries first and then FWAAA and leave out the fee (their middle word) which is unnecessary.
Sep 27, 2006, 12:41 pm
#235
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: New York, NY
Programs: Onepass, Skymiles, Worldperks, Hilton HHonors Silver, Mariot Rewards
Posts: 708
wow you made boingboing!
Sep 27, 2006, 12:48 pm
#236
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: usually SFO, sometimes SJC or OAK
Programs: United premier
Posts: 99
4th Amendment shipping tape
I have the endless-loop 4th Amendment luggage / shipping tape that the Electronic Frontier Foundation makes for its supporters (of the Bill of Rights or of the EFF).
A picture of it is here:
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/06...dment_lug.html
It's subtle, but if they're going to be opening up my luggage to check out my undies, then they ought to know exactly what they're doing. Slicing right through it, and the edges never quite match up again.
If I had it with me, I'd put some on my clear plastic bag organizers for an upcoming flight.
But I bet that they'd say that reminding people of their oaths to the constitution is shouting fire in a security theater.
A picture of it is here:
http://www.boingboing.net/2006/03/06...dment_lug.html
It's subtle, but if they're going to be opening up my luggage to check out my undies, then they ought to know exactly what they're doing. Slicing right through it, and the edges never quite match up again.
If I had it with me, I'd put some on my clear plastic bag organizers for an upcoming flight.
But I bet that they'd say that reminding people of their oaths to the constitution is shouting fire in a security theater.
Sep 27, 2006, 12:55 pm
#237
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: An NPR mind living in a Fox News world
Posts: 14,165
Originally Posted by VideoPaul
Obviously one hell of an enterprise piece. The best you'll get from the TSA will likely be a stonewall citing privacy or national security. I was very, very glad to see the AP express interest in this. This story, once vetted, shoudl move quote widely.
To the OP, I urge you in the strongest possible terms to take the AP up on their interview request and also to allow the ACLU to persue this. This could be the equivalent to Rosa Parks in the brave new world...
--PP
To the OP, I urge you in the strongest possible terms to take the AP up on their interview request and also to allow the ACLU to persue this. This could be the equivalent to Rosa Parks in the brave new world...
--PP
Sep 27, 2006, 12:58 pm
#238
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Under an ORD approach path
Programs: DL PM, MM. Coffee isn't a drug, it's a vitamin.
Posts: 12,935
Originally Posted by FliesWay2Much
Spanish: La kilolibra Hawley es un idiota
Italian: Il Kip Hawley è un idiot
Italian: Il Kip Hawley è un idiot
Italian: drop the Il (use it for a title, like Il Duce, but not a proper name)
Kip Hawley è un idiota.
(personally I'd use stronzo ionstead of idiota, but that might be too crude)
Sep 27, 2006, 1:04 pm
#239
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: SJC
Programs: AA EXP
Posts: 3,686
If it came out that someone had taken liquids that turned out to be explosives through security in a bag marked "Kip Hawley is an idiot" we'd be all over the TSA for missing such a big obvious clue. We'd be yelling "they take up so much of our time, and here went someone who could have only been more obvious by writing "BOMB" on the bag, and STILL the TSA couldn't prevent it."
Steve
Steve
Sep 27, 2006, 1:08 pm
#240
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: An NPR mind living in a Fox News world
Posts: 14,165
Contact Dept of Justice Civil Right Division!
Originally Posted by exerda
In fact, it would seem a violation of several Constitutional rights, IMHO. Violation of freedom of speech (and in no way can "Kip Hawley is an idiot" be construed to be prohibited speech at a checkpoint, unlike the "jokes" the TSA constantly warns us about making), and illegal detainment to name a couple, and attempted illegal seizure to boot.
The TSA does have a civil rights hotline you can file a complaint with, but IME they do not respond in any way, shape, or form to e-mails sent there.
The TSA does have a civil rights hotline you can file a complaint with, but IME they do not respond in any way, shape, or form to e-mails sent there.