Medical Implants and the TSA
#16
Join Date: Dec 2009
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PS: I do not work at this airport so I don't have first-hand knowledge of the incident like SATTSO does, I'm just going off of what I read in the article.
#17
Original Poster
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Florida
Posts: 3,006
No I don't see a problem; people often believe the worst, and people have a general distrust of government.
But thanks for taking my word. There is actually more to the story, but I can't really say more. Maybe later. All I can say (and still might get I trouble for saying even this, as this is an ongoing event) the video refutes this mans story, he was screened by hand, no electronic equipment, and no TSO argued about it with him. And I seriously doubt the video will be released. I know of another recent "event" at SAT that made the local news, but quickly died when the police and the pax lawyer saw the video; and that video was never released...
But thanks for taking my word. There is actually more to the story, but I can't really say more. Maybe later. All I can say (and still might get I trouble for saying even this, as this is an ongoing event) the video refutes this mans story, he was screened by hand, no electronic equipment, and no TSO argued about it with him. And I seriously doubt the video will be released. I know of another recent "event" at SAT that made the local news, but quickly died when the police and the pax lawyer saw the video; and that video was never released...
Now might be a good time for a vacation. May I suggest Oklahoma, nobody wants to go to Oklahoma so it would be the perfect place to hide.
#18
Join Date: Dec 2009
Programs: TSO, AS MVP, AOPA member, Private Pilot ASEL
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You should not get into trouble for telling the truth. There is no way the fact airports have cameras can be SSI. Of course I never would have thought the fact that STSOs are not supposed to allow TSOs to play with weapons or explosives when discovered would be SSI either.
Now might be a good time for a vacation. May I suggest Oklahoma, nobody wants to go to Oklahoma so it would be the perfect place to hide.
Now might be a good time for a vacation. May I suggest Oklahoma, nobody wants to go to Oklahoma so it would be the perfect place to hide.
Better place to hide, Barstow CA. There's the land that God forgot about.
#19
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Location: Florida
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I have Diplomatic Immunity to trash the state, I was born there. Yep I am an Okie from Muskogee.
#20
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#24
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Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: DFW
Posts: 28,129
No I don't see a problem; people often believe the worst, and people have a general distrust of government.
But thanks for taking my word. There is actually more to the story, but I can't really say more. Maybe later. All I can say (and still might get I trouble for saying even this, as this is an ongoing event) the video refutes this mans story, he was screened by hand, no electronic equipment, and no TSO argued about it with him. And I seriously doubt the video will be released. I know of another recent "event" at SAT that made the local news, but quickly died when the police and the pax lawyer saw the video; and that video was never released...
But thanks for taking my word. There is actually more to the story, but I can't really say more. Maybe later. All I can say (and still might get I trouble for saying even this, as this is an ongoing event) the video refutes this mans story, he was screened by hand, no electronic equipment, and no TSO argued about it with him. And I seriously doubt the video will be released. I know of another recent "event" at SAT that made the local news, but quickly died when the police and the pax lawyer saw the video; and that video was never released...
The public believes anything negative about TSA because enough events have shown TSA to be overstepping its charter. These problems are caused by poorly trained or poorly managed (or both) employees. My personal bet would be squarely on management.
Until your agency regains control these problems will continue happening and the snowball will just keep getting bigger.
If order is not restored the agency will eventually collapse under its on weight.
#25
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,702
I think there is a problem and it is a rather large problem.
The public believes anything negative about TSA because enough events have shown TSA to be overstepping its charter. These problems are caused by poorly trained or poorly managed (or both) employees. My personal bet would be squarely on management.
Until your agency regains control these problems will continue happening and the snowball will just keep getting bigger.
If order is not restored the agency will eventually collapse under its on weight.
The public believes anything negative about TSA because enough events have shown TSA to be overstepping its charter. These problems are caused by poorly trained or poorly managed (or both) employees. My personal bet would be squarely on management.
Until your agency regains control these problems will continue happening and the snowball will just keep getting bigger.
If order is not restored the agency will eventually collapse under its on weight.
Take just about any agency, any organization, any company, or any individual, publish a negative story about them, and people eat it up.
It's interesting, the other "event" I referenced made the local news, but when it came out that the pax was not honest, no news story about that. I doubtthere will be a news story about this dishonest pax. As far as the "public" will know, some bad things happened at SAT. Negativity sells, it always has, always will. Heck, reporters consider feel good stories to not be real news; we want to see peolpe bleed. I do and do not blame the media, they have to make money too, and make no mistake, the media is there just to make money like any other corporation. When all that is published is negativity, how far does that go to influence people. Yet at the same time, that is published because that is what people want to read.
#26
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Join Date: Mar 2008
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I tend to disagree with what your saying. The public believes anything it sees on tv or reads in the paper. National enquirer, anyone?
Take just about any agency, any organization, any company, or any individual, publish a negative story about them, and people eat it up.
It's interesting, the other "event" I referenced made the local news, but when it came out that the pax was not honest, no news story about that. I doubtthere will be a news story about this dishonest pax. As far as the "public" will know, some bad things happened at SAT. Negativity sells, it always has, always will. Heck, reporters consider feel good stories to not be real news; we want to see peolpe bleed. I do and do not blame the media, they have to make money too, and make no mistake, the media is there just to make money like any other corporation. When all that is published is negativity, how far does that go to influence people. Yet at the same time, that is published because that is what people want to read.
Take just about any agency, any organization, any company, or any individual, publish a negative story about them, and people eat it up.
It's interesting, the other "event" I referenced made the local news, but when it came out that the pax was not honest, no news story about that. I doubtthere will be a news story about this dishonest pax. As far as the "public" will know, some bad things happened at SAT. Negativity sells, it always has, always will. Heck, reporters consider feel good stories to not be real news; we want to see peolpe bleed. I do and do not blame the media, they have to make money too, and make no mistake, the media is there just to make money like any other corporation. When all that is published is negativity, how far does that go to influence people. Yet at the same time, that is published because that is what people want to read.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
#27
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: boca raton, florida
Posts: 621
Some of what you say is correct but TSA has crossed a line that will not go away. This isn't about this one story. It is a much larger problem.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
#28
Join Date: Sep 2009
Posts: 3,702
Some of what you say is correct but TSA has crossed a line that will not go away. This isn't about this one story. It is a much larger problem.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
#29
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Cincinnati CVG
Posts: 284
Some of what you say is correct but TSA has crossed a line that will not go away. This isn't about this one story. It is a much larger problem.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.
To me it's like a person with substance abuse issues, until they get to the point of admitting their problem no corrective action can be taken.
TSA has a problem but refuses to acknowledge that corrective action is required.
I just hate to see where rock bottom will take us.