TSA overstepping in Denver [gate searches of flight with women headed to DC march]
Jan 24, 2017, 5:12 pm
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Irrespective of the question of whether any bias was exercised in the inspections, do you really have no problem with all travelers to specific destinations being subjected to inspections? Inspections for WEI are for the purpose of preventing terrorist acts to the aircraft, not to potential targets at the destination. Under what precedent and constitutional authority can the government avoid the Fourth Amendment if it conducts searches of anyone traveling to a specific city?
The People's Republic of China used to require internal passports for its citizens, and permission to travel to from one locale to another (it doesn't anymore). Is that where we're heading?
The People's Republic of China used to require internal passports for its citizens, and permission to travel to from one locale to another (it doesn't anymore). Is that where we're heading?
Jan 24, 2017, 5:32 pm
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Except that, as 9/11 taught us, ANY plane that is commandeered can be flown anywhere -- none of the hijacked planes were destined for their target cities. Moreover, with reinforced doors and sterile cockpit procedures, that simply can't happen anymore (unless it's a pilot, in which case passenger inspections are pointless).
Jan 24, 2017, 5:34 pm
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I tend to think this ID business is nonsense. However, my focus isn't on what it takes to get on board a plane, but the government requiring screening to travel to specific destinations within the United States. That, I think, is far more concerning; the government has no power to restrict travel within the US, or to require special inspections or permission because you're traveling to a specific city.
Jan 24, 2017, 6:14 pm
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I tend to think this ID business is nonsense. However, my focus isn't on what it takes to get on board a plane, but the government requiring screening to travel to specific destinations within the United States. That, I think, is far more concerning; the government has no power to restrict travel within the US, or to require special inspections or permission because you're traveling to a specific city.
Jan 24, 2017, 9:35 pm
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I tend to think this ID business is nonsense. However, my focus isn't on what it takes to get on board a plane, but the government requiring screening to travel to specific destinations within the United States. That, I think, is far more concerning; the government has no power to restrict travel within the US, or to require special inspections or permission because you're traveling to a specific city.
Jan 24, 2017, 9:57 pm
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Except that, as 9/11 taught us, ANY plane that is commandeered can be flown anywhere -- none of the hijacked planes were destined for their target cities. Moreover, with reinforced doors and sterile cockpit procedures, that simply can't happen anymore (unless it's a pilot, in which case passenger inspections are pointless).
Jan 24, 2017, 11:06 pm
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The government's identification demands for travel are but a way to try to enable a form of restriction of the travel of even US citizens attempting to travel just domestically.
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Jan 26, 2017, 9:00 am
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"Neither of the above" is what I think.
"Layers of 'security'" is why these TSA gate checks exist. Resource constraints are also why the gate searches are limited and yet biased.
The government's identification demands for travel are but a way to try to enable a form of restriction of the travel of even US citizens attempting to travel just domestically.
"Layers of 'security'" is why these TSA gate checks exist. Resource constraints are also why the gate searches are limited and yet biased.
The government's identification demands for travel are but a way to try to enable a form of restriction of the travel of even US citizens attempting to travel just domestically.
But in light of the demonstrated real possibility of such an incident, increased security activity related to an NSSE is to be expected and is not prima facie evidence of bias.
Jan 26, 2017, 9:05 am
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Instances of accidental and intentional "stowaways" and of using another person's boarding pass, while not commonplace, or also not unheard of. Marilyn Hartman on her own might account for 50% or more of these incidents in recent history.
But in light of the demonstrated real possibility of such an incident, increased security activity related to an NSSE is to be expected and is not prima facie evidence of bias.
But in light of the demonstrated real possibility of such an incident, increased security activity related to an NSSE is to be expected and is not prima facie evidence of bias.
Jan 26, 2017, 2:08 pm
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Instances of accidental and intentional "stowaways" and of using another person's boarding pass, while not commonplace, or also not unheard of. Marilyn Hartman on her own might account for 50% or more of these incidents in recent history.
But in light of the demonstrated real possibility of such an incident, increased security activity related to an NSSE is to be expected and is not prima facie evidence of bias.
But in light of the demonstrated real possibility of such an incident, increased security activity related to an NSSE is to be expected and is not prima facie evidence of bias.
The second paragraph reads sort of like a slimmed down governmental apology for continuity of these practices and to try to justify discriminatory measure that attempt to use proxy factors to nail people who would otherwise more explicitly have a claim to being discriminated against on a basis that violates their constitutional rights and/or civil liberties.
Jan 26, 2017, 2:27 pm
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Jan 26, 2017, 3:57 pm
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The first paragraph's last sentence is of doubtful veracity.
The second paragraph reads sort of like a slimmed down governmental apology for continuity of these practices and to try to justify discriminatory measure that attempt to use proxy factors to nail people who would otherwise more explicitly have a claim to being discriminated against on a basis that violates their constitutional rights and/or civil liberties.
The second paragraph reads sort of like a slimmed down governmental apology for continuity of these practices and to try to justify discriminatory measure that attempt to use proxy factors to nail people who would otherwise more explicitly have a claim to being discriminated against on a basis that violates their constitutional rights and/or civil liberties.
Feb 3, 2017, 10:31 am
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The most recent concerns the Super Bowl to be held in Houston, Texas.
From the Houston Chronicle:
Why Super Bowl programs could slow visitors' departures from Houston airports
Attention Super Bowl-goers: Don't pack your gameday programs in checked luggage when leaving from Bush Intercontinental or Hobby Airports. "That souvenir will cause a gridlock to our baggage system," said Gerry Phelan, the Transportation Security Administration's federal security director at Bush Intercontinental.