TSA overstepping in Denver [gate searches of flight with women headed to DC march]
Jan 20, 2017, 10:26 pm
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Jan 21, 2017, 9:00 am
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While the actions seem excessive, I have a suspicion that TSA or the airline may have received a threat or warning that one of the boarding pax was "packing", either a weapon or some sort of device. explosive or incendiary, to be employed in DC. Even for an unverified threat with little or no evidence of severity, TSA would be thrown under the public bus had anything occurred.
Of course, for a variety of good reasons (and some poor ones), TSA will certainly not confirm or deny a threat or warning.
Of course, for a variety of good reasons (and some poor ones), TSA will certainly not confirm or deny a threat or warning.
Jan 21, 2017, 10:15 am
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While the actions seem excessive, I have a suspicion that TSA or the airline may have received a threat or warning that one of the boarding pax was "packing", either a weapon or some sort of device. explosive or incendiary, to be employed in DC. Even for an unverified threat with little or no evidence of severity, TSA would be thrown under the public bus had anything occurred.
Of course, for a variety of good reasons (and some poor ones), TSA will certainly not confirm or deny a threat or warning.
Of course, for a variety of good reasons (and some poor ones), TSA will certainly not confirm or deny a threat or warning.
Jan 21, 2017, 11:10 am
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TSA isn't the cops but they're quasi law enforcement.
And I didn't say Trump had anything to do with it, I'm saying that we are entering an era where law enforcement abuses, at least in the fashion that the Republicans like, will have a blind eye turned towards them.
Jan 21, 2017, 12:07 pm
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You miss the point entirely.
TSA isn't the cops but they're quasi law enforcement.
And I didn't say Trump had anything to do with it, I'm saying that we are entering an era where law enforcement abuses, at least in the fashion that the Republicans like, will have a blind eye turned towards them.
TSA isn't the cops but they're quasi law enforcement.
And I didn't say Trump had anything to do with it, I'm saying that we are entering an era where law enforcement abuses, at least in the fashion that the Republicans like, will have a blind eye turned towards them.
Jan 21, 2017, 2:21 pm
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TSOs are state actors. If some supervisor has a bug up his butt about Trump protesters, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he or she elected this form of harassment, which would be a prima face First Amendment violation. What, exactly, about this doesn't make sense?
Jan 21, 2017, 3:23 pm
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TSOs are state actors. If some supervisor has a bug up his butt about Trump protesters, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he or she elected this form of harassment, which would be a prima face First Amendment violation. What, exactly, about this doesn't make sense?
Jan 21, 2017, 3:26 pm
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Isn't this the definition of TSA?
TSA is not law enforcement and they have no concept of people's rights.
TSA is not law enforcement and they have no concept of people's rights.
Jan 21, 2017, 3:53 pm
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I agree -- there's not enough information. However, what we do know is not inconsistent with harassment.
Jan 21, 2017, 8:52 pm
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I hope there's an investigation of this, just as thorough as the investigation of I.R.S. for targeting Republicans.
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Jan 22, 2017, 1:47 am
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No facts here. Just an internet post that could have been posted by anyone anywhere.
It may or may not have even happened. If something happened, then one of the people that felt singled out can - and should - file a complaint.
It may or may not have even happened. If something happened, then one of the people that felt singled out can - and should - file a complaint.
Jan 22, 2017, 3:55 am
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If 80% of the people who were screened that day were women on planes bound for Washington were protest attire, and only 2% of the people passing through the airport that day were screened, what do you think you can reasonably infer?
If 80% of the people who were screened that day were women on planes bound for Washington were protest attire, and only 2% of the people passing through the airport that day were screened, what do you think you can reasonably infer?
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