TSA overstepping in Denver [gate searches of flight with women headed to DC march]
Jan 23, 2017, 1:15 pm
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Reminds me of the guy (David Harris) who got visited by the FBI and had his phone tapped because he wrote "LBJ makes me puke" on the return address line of an envelope. The rationale was if enough people puked on LBJ it would suffocate him.
Jan 23, 2017, 1:31 pm
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Which brings us back to the original post of this thread. One phrase keeps coming to mind about the 'incident'... internet hoax.
Jan 23, 2017, 4:19 pm
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PreCheck scam? PreCheck is great! I have nothing to hide. Check away and let me get quickly through security. Spend more time on those that do not want to give up information.
If it is cleared by gov't lawyers, it would be safe to assume they believe their process is legal/constitutional. And, until a court says otherwise, it is.
In 2013, the TSA reviewed and revised all training documents to emphasize that unlawful profiling violates agency policy and anti-discrimination laws are ineffective as a security tool because terrorism has no "typical" face, race, nationality, ethnicity or gender.
(source CNN)
Do they? I guess that is the debate here.
If it is cleared by gov't lawyers, it would be safe to assume they believe their process is legal/constitutional. And, until a court says otherwise, it is.
In 2013, the TSA reviewed and revised all training documents to emphasize that unlawful profiling violates agency policy and anti-discrimination laws are ineffective as a security tool because terrorism has no "typical" face, race, nationality, ethnicity or gender.
(source CNN)
Do they? I guess that is the debate here.
Jan 23, 2017, 8:32 pm
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You are confusing behavior detection with profiling.
Behavior Detection Officers "identify potential terrorists based on behaviors that it thinks indicate stress or deception". A list of behaviors that are considered suspicious can be found here.
Behavior Detection Officers "identify potential terrorists based on behaviors that it thinks indicate stress or deception". A list of behaviors that are considered suspicious can be found here.
Jan 23, 2017, 10:21 pm
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You are confusing behavior detection with profiling.
Behavior Detection Officers "identify potential terrorists based on behaviors that it thinks indicate stress or deception". A list of behaviors that are considered suspicious can be found here.
Behavior Detection Officers "identify potential terrorists based on behaviors that it thinks indicate stress or deception". A list of behaviors that are considered suspicious can be found here.
Jan 23, 2017, 11:41 pm
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Jan 24, 2017, 1:02 am
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Having read through all, I'm still confused as to whether some are claiming discrimination because it was a large group of WOMEN chosen or discrimination because it was ANTI-TRUMP protesters chosen?
Jan 24, 2017, 1:13 am
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Jan 24, 2017, 6:58 am
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Jan 24, 2017, 11:52 am
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While there are multiple reports of extra security going into DC (from multiple airports), there are none/zero/zip confirmed (or alleged) reports of profiling/bias.
Jan 24, 2017, 2:53 pm
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Is the above a suggestion that the TSA "extra security" is all done without any bias? If that suggestion were "true", then I have for sale a bunch of bridges between DC and Virginia.
Jan 24, 2017, 4:21 pm
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The People's Republic of China used to require internal passports for its citizens, and permission to travel to from one locale to another (it doesn't anymore). Is that where we're heading?
Jan 24, 2017, 4:55 pm
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Irrespective of the question of whether any bias was exercised in the inspections, do you really have no problem with all travelers to specific destinations being subjected to inspections? Inspections for WEI are for the purpose of preventing terrorist acts to the aircraft, not to potential targets at the destination. Under what precedent and constitutional authority can the government avoid the Fourth Amendment if it conducts searches of anyone traveling to a specific city?
The People's Republic of China used to require internal passports for its citizens, and permission to travel to from one locale to another (it doesn't anymore). Is that where we're heading?
The People's Republic of China used to require internal passports for its citizens, and permission to travel to from one locale to another (it doesn't anymore). Is that where we're heading?
The government's arguable excuse for additional "security" for flight to the D.C. area may involve the concern that targets at the destination may be hit using the plane.