Updated: EU To Require Electronic Travel Authorization [ETIAS] for non-EU citizens
Oct 19, 2023, 8:35 am
#376
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What you mention about Austria not accepting dual citizenship, is correct for born Austrians. If I am born in Austria and i get a second citizenship, at least I obtained an exception/permit, I'd lose my Austrian citizenship. However that law doesn't apply to Austrian born abroad. Typical example is when one of your parents is Austrian and you born let say in USA. You're American by birth without even asking and then you get Austrian citizenship throught your parent.In this case, you don't need to renounce to your American citizenship.
You can find an easy explanation here: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/au...-austria-51811
Now, regarding ETIAS, once you acquire Austrian citizenship you won't need to apply for ETIAS no matter what other citizenships you have.
You can find an easy explanation here: https://www.hg.org/legal-articles/au...-austria-51811
Now, regarding ETIAS, once you acquire Austrian citizenship you won't need to apply for ETIAS no matter what other citizenships you have.
I'm a citizen of US and Spain. It's really easy basically you check-in using the passport of the destination (So when flying to Europe, I use Spain when flying to US I use US. You absolutely do not have to use US passport when leaving the US as you won't have an I-94 record upon entry to match up with, which is the reason foreigners need to leave on the same passport they enter with.
From then on it's basically just present the passport of the country enforcing. So I use Spain for Schengen exit immigration and then US at CBP. Since US has no exit immigration going back it's just Spanish passport all the way.
It's really not that hard.
It seems they're pretty close to joining Schengen (also welcome news to Greece I suppose to have a truck route with no border crossings to the rest of the EU) which would probably ratchet up the pressure quite a bit.
From then on it's basically just present the passport of the country enforcing. So I use Spain for Schengen exit immigration and then US at CBP. Since US has no exit immigration going back it's just Spanish passport all the way.
It's really not that hard.
It seems they're pretty close to joining Schengen (also welcome news to Greece I suppose to have a truck route with no border crossings to the rest of the EU) which would probably ratchet up the pressure quite a bit.
Oct 20, 2023, 6:19 am
#377
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If your names match exactly in both passports then yeah that approach should always work. There are cases sometimes that names may differ because of native spelling or first/middle name being switched, so in those cases, it's more complicated, since you need to buy the ticket with one of the spelling variants.
Oct 20, 2023, 6:25 am
#378
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My names are actually different (the US passport doesn't include the second surname) and I've had exactly zero problems with it ever. Of course I always make sure to book the ticket using only my first surname unless I'm just going to be using my Spanish passport for the trip.
Oct 20, 2023, 6:39 am
#379
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With either passport. I can do it going both ways. Though as you mentioned if first /middle were reversed or something I suspect it might be different but I would imagine the systems are used to people omitting one or multiple of their legal names in reservations. Countries like Portugal where the legal names can be ludicrously long come to mind.
Oct 20, 2023, 6:47 am
#380
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With either passport. I can do it going both ways. Though as you mentioned if first /middle were reversed or something I suspect it might be different but I would imagine the systems are used to people omitting one or multiple of their legal names in reservations. Countries like Portugal where the legal names can be ludicrously long come to mind.
Oct 21, 2023, 1:04 pm
#381
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Well we have a new date! Spring of 2025
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/20/eur...nts-2025-etias
It seems this one is more definite.
https://www.axios.com/2023/10/20/eur...nts-2025-etias
It seems this one is more definite.
Oct 24, 2023, 7:57 pm
#384
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Oh please! It was set to be implemented in 2020, then 2022, then 2023, then 2024, and the newest guidance is 2025, but not even clear of it is Jan 1? First quarter, end of May, or end of the year. So if start with only a half dozen test countries when it starts, as has often been routes for the first six months? This can very easily slip to 2026, or whenever and nothing is really set.
Oct 25, 2023, 8:23 am
#385
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Oh please! It was set to be implemented in 2020, then 2022, then 2023, then 2024, and the newest guidance is 2025, but not even clear of it is Jan 1? First quarter, end of May, or end of the year. So if start with only a half dozen test countries when it starts, as has often been routes for the first six months? This can very easily slip to 2026, or whenever and nothing is really set.
ETIAS or needing Real ID for TSA in the US.
Oct 25, 2023, 8:33 am
#386
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