Updated: EU To Require Electronic Travel Authorization [ETIAS] for non-EU citizens
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-eu...-idUSKCN0X4183
Originally Posted by Reuters
EU may require visas from Americans and Canadians: EU source
The European Union executive is considering whether to make U.S. and Canadian citizens apply for visas before traveling to the bloc, a move that could raise tensions as Brussels negotiates a trade pact with Washington. ..... the European Commission must decide by April 12 whether to demand visas from countries who have similar requirements in place for one or more EU state. Washington and Ottawa both demand entry visas from Romanians and Bulgarians, whose states joined the EU in 2007. The United States also excludes Croatians, Cypriots and Poles from a visa waiver scheme offered to other EU citizens. I wouldn't welcome this expanded requirement to get visas to travel. http://time.com/4284875/eu-visa-united-states-canada/ |
Let's not forget that there was a period in the 1980s-1990s when France required visas of all USA citizens. The requirement was dropped before my IIRC three-year visa expired.
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Originally Posted by MSPeconomist
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Let's not forget that there was a period in the 1980s-1990s when France required visas of all USA citizens. The requirement was dropped before my IIRC three-year visa expired.
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
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I never had a visa for France in any of my US passports that was valid during the 1990s. And I did visit France in the 1990s, or at least each year from 1991-2000.
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Time for EU and US (or even North America) cooperation. But unlikely to happen. I now have ESTAs ETAs and IMMIs, what next?
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I would like to say "serves them right" but these restrictions only hurt ordinary people, not the responsible governments.
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Originally Posted by :D!
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I would like to say "serves them right" but these restrictions only hurt ordinary people, not the responsible governments.
And my opinion about this is the same as my opinion about my country having a quasi-visa thing via ESTA requirements. More restrictive visa regimes indeed do further complicate travel for ordinary visitors more than for anybody else. |
Originally Posted by :D!
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I would like to say "serves them right" but these restrictions only hurt ordinary people, not the responsible governments.
Note: this issue isn't just about new EU states, but also citizens of existing states being arbitrarily excluded due to new laws that congress introduced in 2015. // Edit: this is the official EU letter regarding the December 2015 US legislation: http://www.niacaction.org/eu-respond...r-reciprocity/ |
Originally Posted by TWA884
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US passport holders needed French visas in the late 80's. I had one that was issued in February 1988.
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The EU requiring visas from US citizens is long overdue, the reciprocity that visa agreements are normally based on was removed when the U.S. introduced ESTA, which constitutes a visa for all intents and purposes.
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Originally Posted by mfkne
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The EU requiring visas from US citizens is long overdue, the reciprocity that visa agreements are normally based on was removed when the U.S. introduced ESTA, which constitutes a visa for all intents and purposes.
In addition, this tit-for-tat is plain stupid; the percetage of US citizens illegally overstaying the Schengen stay limits is miniscule compared to the percentage of Eastern Europeans, i.e., Romanians and Bulgarians, who remain in the US illegally past the expiration of their authorized entry permits. |
Originally Posted by TWA884
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American tourists are too much of a cash cow for many western European economies for that to happen as this will negatively affect the number of Americans traveling to Europe.
In addition, this tit-for-tat is plain stupid; the percetage of US citizens illegally overstaying the Schengen stay limits is miniscule compared to the percentage of Eastern Europeans, i.e., Romanians and Bulgarians, who remain in the US illegally past the expiration of their authorized entry permits. |
Originally Posted by GUWonder
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I think that a Schengen evisa regime akin to the US ESTA/evisa regime wouldn't really kill the American cash cow providing milk to the Schengen tourism sector.
There is a big difference between obtaining an electronic entry permit and applying for a traditional visa. |
What is a visa but a permit to apply for entry? Apart from the way you apply for it and the paperwork required there's not much difference between "a proper" visa and ESTA, as evidenced by the fact you even have to pay for it.
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Originally Posted by TWA884
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I tend to agree with your assessment, however, I was responding to an assertion that "[t]he EU requiring visas from US citizens is long overdue."
There is a big difference between obtaining an electronic entry permit and applying for a traditional visa. |
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