The train station at CPH will be a fun place to be
Dec 30, 2015 | 5:51 am
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The train track fence wall between Track 1 and Track 2 at CPH airport is now finished. Nighttime Oresundstag train service can get back on track now.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:03 pm
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This decision comes from Stockholm, of course, with no consideration whatsoever for the regions (or indeed for the Danes). Unfortunately, the cross-country train schedule from Gothenburg has been gutted, and I don't have a car in Sweden anymore. But I'll be considering the options of terminating at ARN, or connecting into LPI or KLR for my next trip. I might book an open jaw and *leave* out of CPH.
Indeed Stockholm is very far away in so many aspects. Try to ask the cute decisionmakers in Stockholm what they woyld think of adding 45 min of traveltime onthe Upsalla - Stockholm route?
Even the Swedish state owned railway SJ had halted their service to Denmark - they do not want the hassle. Imagine what would happen if the Danish railways did the same?
What a sad day day for Nordic travelers. Shame on you Swedish government.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:06 pm
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Indeed Stockholm is very far away in so many aspects. Try to ask the cute decisionmakers in Stockholm what they woyld think of adding 45 min of traveltime onthe Upsalla - Stockholm route?
Even the Swedish state owned railway SJ had halted their service to Denmark - they do not want the hassle. Imagine what would happen if the Danish railways did the same?
What a sad day day for Nordic travelers. Shame on you Swedish government.
Even the Swedish state owned railway SJ had halted their service to Denmark - they do not want the hassle. Imagine what would happen if the Danish railways did the same?
What a sad day day for Nordic travelers. Shame on you Swedish government.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:14 pm
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27,000 additional hours of commute time daily is one estimate I've heard about the consequence of these changes. And it was said to be a probable underestimate of the real impact, given the commute time may be going largely from 40 minutes traditionally up to 70 minutes due to these changes.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:17 pm
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If the Snapphane were more effective, this situation wouldn't be a problem
for so many regional commuters. 27,000 additional hours of commute time daily is one estimate I've heard about the consequence of these changes, and it was said to be a probable underestimate of the real impact.
for so many regional commuters. 27,000 additional hours of commute time daily is one estimate I've heard about the consequence of these changes, and it was said to be a probable underestimate of the real impact.
It's quite remarkable the Soviet Union never tried to bring us behind the iron curtain. We would have been so easy to handle.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:22 pm
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So Swedish news media have announced that CPH train station will be closed from 27 December to the morning of the 29th. The reason is remodelling, to ensure compliance with a new Swedish law, taking effect on 4/1, which will requires train operators to perform ID checks on all passengers, and imposes a very substantial fine for any failure to do so.
State-owned Swedish SJ has already announced they are scrapping all services to Denmark. resundstg will continue, but with CPH as the terminus both out of Sweden and out of Helsingr via Copenhagen Central. So the CPH station will be the border checkpoint. The many thousands of daily train commuters between the Copenhagen and Malm region will have to change trains. This should be especially fun at rush hour, as frequencies will also be cut.
I'm personally very sad that it's ended up like this. I'm old enough to remember travelling from Sweden to CPH via bus and the Limhamn-Dragr ferry, or the SK non-hovering hovercraft, and the delight over them being replaced by a local and frequent train. I'm afraid I can now confidently predict pandemonium at CPH's train station for the foreseeable future. Maybe it's just a Swedish government plot to make people from Southern Sweden take the train to ARN instead?
State-owned Swedish SJ has already announced they are scrapping all services to Denmark. resundstg will continue, but with CPH as the terminus both out of Sweden and out of Helsingr via Copenhagen Central. So the CPH station will be the border checkpoint. The many thousands of daily train commuters between the Copenhagen and Malm region will have to change trains. This should be especially fun at rush hour, as frequencies will also be cut.
I'm personally very sad that it's ended up like this. I'm old enough to remember travelling from Sweden to CPH via bus and the Limhamn-Dragr ferry, or the SK non-hovering hovercraft, and the delight over them being replaced by a local and frequent train. I'm afraid I can now confidently predict pandemonium at CPH's train station for the foreseeable future. Maybe it's just a Swedish government plot to make people from Southern Sweden take the train to ARN instead?
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:27 pm
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Indeed Stockholm is very far away in so many aspects. Try to ask the cute decisionmakers in Stockholm what they woyld think of adding 45 min of traveltime onthe Upsalla - Stockholm route?
Even the Swedish state owned railway SJ had halted their service to Denmark - they do not want the hassle. Imagine what would happen if the Danish railways did the same?
What a sad day day for Nordic travelers. Shame on you Swedish government.
Even the Swedish state owned railway SJ had halted their service to Denmark - they do not want the hassle. Imagine what would happen if the Danish railways did the same?
What a sad day day for Nordic travelers. Shame on you Swedish government.
I find it disappointing that something that took so long to build up and was working well enough can get wrecked so quickly and easily by those who either don't use it or barely consider it as so fundamental to the socio-economic vitality of the region.
Jan 3, 2016 | 1:36 pm
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Perhaps the rail operators should take the Swedish government to court over the matter. If someone had built a business model up in line with certain international legal representations that were then unilaterally wrecked by one national government, then they should be looking at their legal options.
I find it disappointing that something that took so long to build up and was working well enough can get wrecked so quickly and easily by those who either don't use it or barely consider it as so fundamental to the socio-economic vitality of the region.
I find it disappointing that something that took so long to build up and was working well enough can get wrecked so quickly and easily by those who either don't use it or barely consider it as so fundamental to the socio-economic vitality of the region.
Jan 6, 2016 | 12:17 pm
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I had a cab waiting for me at CPH on Monday. Police were checking IDs at the resundsbron toll plaza, but it took us less than a minute to get through. I got home two hours earlier than I would had I taken a nonstop train, which I guess says something about the average speed of trains in modern Sweden. With the ID checks and now also having to change trains, taking a cab saves me even more time.
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Jan 6, 2016 | 1:12 pm
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I had a cab waiting for me at CPH on Monday. Police were checking IDs at the resundsbron toll plaza, but it took us less than a minute to get through. I got home two hours earlier than I would had I taken a nonstop train, which I guess says something about the average speed of trains in modern Sweden. With the ID checks and now also having to change trains, taking a cab saves me even more time.
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I went through ID checks when taking the train from CPH to Sweden this week -- actually two checks per trip. I accidentally used ID that either wasn't mine or that wasn't valid, at least twice for at least one such trip; and no one but me was any the bit wiser about it until this point. I didn't realize it myself until after I went to look for some additional documentation unrelated to these ID checks and figured out that there was no way that I presented my own valid ID for at least one of these trips.
It is to be noted that some research shows that the ability to correctly do face-to-picture matches drops when the subjects are wearing outdoor winter clothes. So perhaps they really are missing inadmissible people on these trains.
Jan 6, 2016 | 3:29 pm
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I bet Margrethe could kick Carl Gustav's butt any day, and take Skne back. And none of my Skne friends like being part of Sweden anyway.
Jan 8, 2016 | 1:57 am
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Let them do it at CPH or in Malmo and take the train again.
But both should be warned that they have sovereign immunity in case they give each other a black-eye.
Jan 10, 2016 | 12:05 pm
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Jan 10, 2016 | 12:27 pm
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She speaks the most beautiful old-fashioned Swedish (preserved in aspic from the day her mother left Sofiero in 1935) so I'm sure she'll be able to blag her way through.