TSA going to stop allowing NOS opt-out?
Dec 29, 2015, 5:46 pm
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Dec 29, 2015, 6:20 pm
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I don't buy into every bit of paranoia that gets displayed on this forum, especially without clear evidence. You can think that makes me stupid if it makes you feel better.
Dec 29, 2015, 6:48 pm
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Opposition to TSA activities isn't all about -- nor even close to mostly about -- paranoia.
Dec 29, 2015, 7:22 pm
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Where is proof that TSA is capturing AIT images, or that they are useful? Without proof, discussion along these lines is borderline paranoia.
Dec 29, 2015, 7:33 pm
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A comment on a travel blog (http://viewfromthewing.boardingarea....omment-4394804) from someone named Lynn states that she was told that one can no longer opt out if one is selected from Precheck.
Has anyone else found this to be the case? Based upon this, if one with precheck absolutely wants to avoid going through a body scanner, it seems that it is safer to go go through the regular lanes and opt-out there. Does anyone see any flaws with this idea? Is one with Precheck allowed to go through the regular security lanes?
Is there any way to check to see if this is the policy regarding precheck? This seems inconsistent with the idea of the no opt-out policy only being for people on watchlists or for people generally being able to opt out with the exclusion being when warranted by security situations.
Has anyone else found this to be the case? Based upon this, if one with precheck absolutely wants to avoid going through a body scanner, it seems that it is safer to go go through the regular lanes and opt-out there. Does anyone see any flaws with this idea? Is one with Precheck allowed to go through the regular security lanes?
Is there any way to check to see if this is the policy regarding precheck? This seems inconsistent with the idea of the no opt-out policy only being for people on watchlists or for people generally being able to opt out with the exclusion being when warranted by security situations.
Dec 29, 2015, 7:44 pm
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I think a collection of images could be useful in helping to learn how hidden items might appearon scans, Images could also help develope improved imagers. If the machines have the ability to save image why wouldn't that capability be used?
Dec 29, 2015, 7:59 pm
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The TSA isn't much into the proof game, at least when it comes to putting stuff out into the public domain.
The TSA has previously deceived the public and/or been ignorant about its own purchased goods/services when it comes to this area. Nothing paranoid about that claim.
Also, just becauses images are supposedly not intentionally stored by TSA for formal, TSA-documented periods of times does not rule out how the strip search machines and ATR software together works via image capture. Nothing paranoid about that claim.
If the TSA is so confident in the objective, whole truth about the operations of its purchased machine strip search technology (hardware and software), why is it that the TSA is so staunchly opposed to public transparency and general public availability for sale of the same technology it uses at airports?
Dec 29, 2015, 8:41 pm
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Fiction-based/paranoia-based arguments aren't helpful in sustainably correcting the TSA. That said, the TSA doesn't really seem to be in the game of publicly showing itself as a non-peddler of fiction and paranoia.
Dec 29, 2015, 8:50 pm
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Has that been the accusation? It would be news to me and still wouldn't be relevant to the topic.
Fiction-based/paranoia-based arguments aren't helpful in sustainably correcting the TSA. That said, the TSA doesn't really seem to be in the game of publicly showing itself as a non-peddler of fiction and paranoia.
Fiction-based/paranoia-based arguments aren't helpful in sustainably correcting the TSA. That said, the TSA doesn't really seem to be in the game of publicly showing itself as a non-peddler of fiction and paranoia.
Dec 29, 2015, 9:35 pm
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Dec 30, 2015, 1:27 am
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As far as I know, since John Tyner's "Don't touch my junk!" in 2011, the TSA has not actually fined anyone for leaving the checkpoint (and I'm not sure they ever have prior to that, either). In fact, after my 2012 escort out of FLL airport after much police and fanfare, information tells me that the TSA changed their policy such that refusing to continue without any further signs = denied boarding without more. But they still "reserve the right" to fine you, even if they don't have the balls to do so and end up defending that in court.
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