WP: "D.C. resident: TSA agent questioned if license from nation’s capital was valid"
#92
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How do you feel about some moron being in charge of your security who cannot even memorize the fifty states? Just image what other things they might ignore.
The verbiage is state or federal photo IDs and technically DC is under federal jurisdiction so that should be covered.
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I assume the actual text of the regulations specifies "state-equivalent" or something to that effect.
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Seriously, though, it is sad that even those purportedly responsible for our nation's security doesn't even realize that a license from the capitol of our country is valid per his organization's rules.
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There is a "White" guy at IAH CBP with a strong French accent (not sure if from France or Quebec or whatnot but very French) and it is very hard to understand him and he is famous amongst several local travellers for being an .... Lucky for me with GE I have not had to deal with him much but he is a "mid-rung" guy. So it is not just the Spanish accents. I've lived all over the world, speak a few different tongues, and even have family where is English is not a first tongue so I try to understand all and do an ok job, but I expect CBP to at least be able to be understood...and I do not mean by just speaking louder LOL
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Oh no, he's French, or maybe from Quebec, but not Acadian or cajun by any means. I dated enough of those girls and dealt with their families over the years let alone being way down in that swamp land listening to those folks.
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.... and yet the souvenir passports from the Conch Republic have been accepted by the TSA as photo ID.
Government-issued.
Government-issued.
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http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/acceptable-ids
I'll grab another look at the TSA guides next week to get a more current look and see what it says -- I don't care about SSI ridiculousness.
Here's what it said in 2009:
Originally Posted by TSA
The ID is either a photo ID issued by a Government authority, an airport issued SIDA or sterile area airport ID card, or aircraft operator issued RAMP or CREW ID
#101
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Clearly, he memorized all 50 states, but forgot about the District of Columbia.
Seriously, though, it is sad that even those purportedly responsible for our nation's security doesn't even realize that a license from the capitol of our country is valid per his organization's rules.
Seriously, though, it is sad that even those purportedly responsible for our nation's security doesn't even realize that a license from the capitol of our country is valid per his organization's rules.
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Clearly, he memorized all 50 states, but forgot about the District of Columbia.
Seriously, though, it is sad that even those purportedly responsible for our nation's security doesn't even realize that a license from the capitol of our country is valid per his organization's rules.
Seriously, though, it is sad that even those purportedly responsible for our nation's security doesn't even realize that a license from the capitol of our country is valid per his organization's rules.
"Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)"
A DC licence is not a "state photo identity card" because DC is not a state.
I actually think the officer declining it was, technically, the one in the right per the letter (though obviously not the spirit) of the rules. If I was new to the job, brainwashed into believing that what I did was CRITICAL that I follow the rules exactly, and scared of getting demerits early on in the career, I'd probably check with a supervisor JUST TO BE POSITIVE.
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I disagree, I think that he may realise something his supervisor didn't - that licence might not be valid, per the letter of their rules. Their rules say:
"Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)"
A DC licence is not a "state photo identity card" because DC is not a state.
I actually think the officer declining it was, technically, the one in the right per the letter (though obviously not the spirit) of the rules. If I was new to the job, brainwashed into believing that what I did was CRITICAL that I follow the rules exactly, and scared of getting demerits early on in the career, I'd probably check with a supervisor JUST TO BE POSITIVE.
"Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)"
A DC licence is not a "state photo identity card" because DC is not a state.
I actually think the officer declining it was, technically, the one in the right per the letter (though obviously not the spirit) of the rules. If I was new to the job, brainwashed into believing that what I did was CRITICAL that I follow the rules exactly, and scared of getting demerits early on in the career, I'd probably check with a supervisor JUST TO BE POSITIVE.
Or how about Puerto Rico, USVI, Guam, and other US territories that aren't states but are definitely part of the United States?
This guy was an idiot, plain and simple.
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I disagree, I think that he may realise something his supervisor didn't - that licence might not be valid, per the letter of their rules. Their rules say:
"Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)"
A DC licence is not a "state photo identity card" because DC is not a state.
I actually think the officer declining it was, technically, the one in the right per the letter (though obviously not the spirit) of the rules. If I was new to the job, brainwashed into believing that what I did was CRITICAL that I follow the rules exactly, and scared of getting demerits early on in the career, I'd probably check with a supervisor JUST TO BE POSITIVE.
"Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)"
A DC licence is not a "state photo identity card" because DC is not a state.
I actually think the officer declining it was, technically, the one in the right per the letter (though obviously not the spirit) of the rules. If I was new to the job, brainwashed into believing that what I did was CRITICAL that I follow the rules exactly, and scared of getting demerits early on in the career, I'd probably check with a supervisor JUST TO BE POSITIVE.
"The ID is either a photo ID issued by a Government authority, an airport issued SIDA or sterile area airport ID card, or aircraft operator issued RAMP or CREW ID".