WP: "D.C. resident: TSA agent questioned if license from nation’s capital was valid"
Feb 27, 2014, 12:59 pm
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This was back in the early days of social media. Online justice then required purchasing a domain with the suffix "sucks", and good usage of SEO.
Disney took care of it quite quickly. When security and the manager arrived, they had the ID book (which should have been at the bar), and they verified the authenticity of my ID. The manager even comped me a drink for the misunderstanding.
With Costco, even through the police officer vouched for the authenticity of my ID, they still refused to sell me the alcohol. It took a letter on law firm letterhead (thanks dad!) for Costco to see the error of their ways. I received a letter of apology and a free year of Costco membership. I now use my passport as my ID for going there though, since the same employee is still working there (at least she was last november).
Disney 1, Costco 0.
Disney took care of it quite quickly. When security and the manager arrived, they had the ID book (which should have been at the bar), and they verified the authenticity of my ID. The manager even comped me a drink for the misunderstanding.
With Costco, even through the police officer vouched for the authenticity of my ID, they still refused to sell me the alcohol. It took a letter on law firm letterhead (thanks dad!) for Costco to see the error of their ways. I received a letter of apology and a free year of Costco membership. I now use my passport as my ID for going there though, since the same employee is still working there (at least she was last november).
Disney 1, Costco 0.
Feb 27, 2014, 1:00 pm
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Actually, that's not true. Only about half the states/territories currently have REAL ID compliant DLs, from what I can see, and about a third have extensions to meet the requirements.
Feb 27, 2014, 1:15 pm
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With Costco, even through the police officer vouched for the authenticity of my ID, they still refused to sell me the alcohol. It took a letter on law firm letterhead (thanks dad!) for Costco to see the error of their ways. I received a letter of apology and a free year of Costco membership. I now use my passport as my ID for going there though, since the same employee is still working there (at least she was last november).
Disney 1, Costco 0.
Disney 1, Costco 0.
Feb 27, 2014, 1:21 pm
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Not to digress too much but:
The TABC-TExas Alcoholic Beverage Comm. has insane power over certain aspects of bar/package stores that they can enforce via laws in Texas. Due to their tactics many bars will not accept federal (military for example, or passport) or out-of-state IDs. Not all are like that but they can if they want, and they blame the TABC.
The TABC-TExas Alcoholic Beverage Comm. has insane power over certain aspects of bar/package stores that they can enforce via laws in Texas. Due to their tactics many bars will not accept federal (military for example, or passport) or out-of-state IDs. Not all are like that but they can if they want, and they blame the TABC.
Feb 27, 2014, 1:30 pm
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Feb 27, 2014, 1:54 pm
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The most absurd part of this is that they should only be confirming your age, so who cares where your ID is from? A friend was once refused entry to a local bar with his Canadian driver's license. And I was once refused entry to a different bar with an expired driver's license while I waited for the new one in the mail. I didn't cease to be of legal age the day after my license expired. It's the mindless following of procedure with no thought to what they are actually preventing/allowing that annoys me.
Feb 27, 2014, 2:27 pm
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I recall once overhearing a Northwest Airlines ticket agent ask a passenger from Iran for their state and ZIP code. [It's not exclusively a government employee thing.]
The passenger had a good comeback: "ZIP code! Lady, they're still riding camels over there."
The passenger had a good comeback: "ZIP code! Lady, they're still riding camels over there."
Feb 27, 2014, 2:29 pm
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This thread reminds me of a story I heard almost 20 years ago. I searched the internet to see if I could find it, could not, so maybe it was a hoax. However, it was funny enough I will share it anyway.
A man from West Virginia is driving through Arizona, and of course his car has a West Virginia license plate. He is not speeding or doing anything illegal, but a police car pulls him over. The policeman asks for his drivers license, the man offers it to him, and he is immediately arrested and incarcerated, not being told why. Two hours later, the local police department determines that West Virginia really is a state, and releases the man.
I did not intend to offend anyone from Arizona, but I do have many friends living in Arizona who don't doubt one minute it could be a true story.
A man from West Virginia is driving through Arizona, and of course his car has a West Virginia license plate. He is not speeding or doing anything illegal, but a police car pulls him over. The policeman asks for his drivers license, the man offers it to him, and he is immediately arrested and incarcerated, not being told why. Two hours later, the local police department determines that West Virginia really is a state, and releases the man.
I did not intend to offend anyone from Arizona, but I do have many friends living in Arizona who don't doubt one minute it could be a true story.
Feb 27, 2014, 2:39 pm
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This sounds hilarious.
But this news makes me wonder a valid point - under what authority can DC DMV (as well as other territories) issue ID or DL? My understanding is without an act of the U.S. Congress, these places do not have the same authorities as states.
And BTW - I never relied on that list anyway. In the past when I still worked for the Fed, I have been using HSPD-12 PIV when TSA did not explicitly say it can be used for travel.
But this news makes me wonder a valid point - under what authority can DC DMV (as well as other territories) issue ID or DL? My understanding is without an act of the U.S. Congress, these places do not have the same authorities as states.
And BTW - I never relied on that list anyway. In the past when I still worked for the Fed, I have been using HSPD-12 PIV when TSA did not explicitly say it can be used for travel.
The District of Columbia "Home Rule Charter", which is the "organic statute" for the activities of the DC local government, is an Act of Congress, Public Law 93-198, approved 12/24/1973:
http://www.abfa.com/ogc/hrtall.htm
http://www.abfa.com/ogc/hrtall.htm
Mike
Feb 27, 2014, 2:42 pm
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There's a reason many New Mexico license plate designs also have "USA" on them.
A friend who used to live there and tried to get Olympic tickets from the US representative for them some time ag
was rebuffed by the telephone agent when he gave his address. He was told he couldn't do so as he wasn't a US resident.
A friend who used to live there and tried to get Olympic tickets from the US representative for them some time ag
was rebuffed by the telephone agent when he gave his address. He was told he couldn't do so as he wasn't a US resident.
Feb 27, 2014, 3:37 pm
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(OT: I think that the USA should have chip IDs to prevent fakes from being issued. If even developing nations like Brazil, Argentina, and Malaysia have chips on their ID documents, states can do the same thing. Argentina and Malaysia I do not have links although I can confirm for sure for both as I saw a man take out the mykad when filling out a Singaporean D/E card and an Argentine reentering their nation at EZE.)
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Feb 27, 2014, 3:43 pm
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As stated on here before.... I had a "Agent" @ MCI ask me for additional ID when I presented my Hawaii Drivers License when I flew back home on personal biz and wasn't flying armed..... because he was having issues remembering if Hawaii was a state or not....
It took less than a minute and I was on my way......but still.
It took less than a minute and I was on my way......but still.
Feb 27, 2014, 6:22 pm
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What would really fix all of this: not allow driver's licenses to be used for proof of anything but ability to legally drive, and use a uniform national ID for everything else. It would make life to much easier, but many are afraid it would give the government too much power (as opposed to what the government already has). It would be easy to implement under the commerce clause and would be more efficient.
Feb 27, 2014, 6:56 pm
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Driver's Licenses or other state photo identity cards issued by Department of Motor Vehicles (or equivalent)
